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Beaver, PA

#1 Sep 17, 2013
It is time for some house cleaning.
Hobo Jim

Mckeesport, PA

#2 Sep 17, 2013
When wrote:
It is time for some house cleaning.
To early to project at this time, but indictments might be a good start as a cleansing tool. Only the law enforcement authorities and the AG know if we are headed in that direction. I would suspect that the "issues" will be determined before the end of the year. That is after they sort out and evaluate what the plea bargain and tipsters have to offers. This is the wild card at this time for the investigations.

Mr. Carr should resign immediately to start the purification of City Hall and restore Hope, Dignity, Love, and Respect.
When

Beaver, PA

#3 Sep 17, 2013
Hobo Jim wrote:
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To early to project at this time, but indictments might be a good start as a cleansing tool. Only the law enforcement authorities and the AG know if we are headed in that direction. I would suspect that the "issues" will be determined before the end of the year. That is after they sort out and evaluate what the plea bargain and tipsters have to offers. This is the wild card at this time for the investigations.
Mr. Carr should resign immediately to start the purification of City Hall and restore Hope, Dignity, Love, and Respect.
It is coming. NotsoMagic Mike is going down real soon!
Curious

Dravosburg, PA

#4 Sep 17, 2013
Is there a recall procedure in PA or Allegheny County? That may be something to look into. Public confidence in at least four of our elected officials is at an all-time low.
Controller

West Mifflin, PA

#5 Sep 17, 2013
can we go to the council meeting/school board directors demand that these scumbags step down from office in disgrace or ask the council/school board to ask for resignation and if no council person doesnt want to do i say vote everyone out that does not throw these scumbags out.

remember if you agree to keep these scumbags in office youre voted OUT next election.....

i mean vote em OUT!

lets storm these meetings and call the ppg and dn in advance to show up to see what happens
When

Beaver, PA

#6 Sep 17, 2013
Controller wrote:
can we go to the council meeting/school board directors demand that these scumbags step down from office in disgrace or ask the council/school board to ask for resignation and if no council person doesnt want to do i say vote everyone out that does not throw these scumbags out.
remember if you agree to keep these scumbags in office youre voted OUT next election.....
i mean vote em OUT!
lets storm these meetings and call the ppg and dn in advance to show up to see what happens
You would have to check with the home rule charter and third class city regulations. I imagine, you would need to start a petition. You probably need a certain amount of signatures to recall our disgraced politicians.
Perry Mason

Mckeesport, PA

#7 Sep 17, 2013
When wrote:
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You would have to check with the home rule charter and third class city regulations. I imagine, you would need to start a petition. You probably need a certain amount of signatures to recall our disgraced politicians.
Now you got your answer below. No charge for this services but send flowers to Della, my secretary.

I think that Mr. Carr and Mr. Gergely may have violated the "Misbehavior in Office statute" that is, "the performance by a public official of a discretionary act with an improper or corrupt motive."

Now who thinks they have the authority and responsibility to file the charges? The public, council, mayor, controller, DA, AG, US Attorney, state police, county police, or FBI? Watch the finger pointing now!

IMO and for the case of Mr. Carr, the HRC requires Mayor Cherepko to enforce all the laws of the Commonwealth as they apply to our beloved and beleaguered City. Go to it Mayor Cherepko - execute your responsibility and civic duty.

REMOVAL FROM OFFICE
Pennsylvania General Assembly
Local Government Commission Page 75

How can a local elected official be removed from office? There are some statutory and home rule charter provisions regarding the recall or removal2 of elected officials. These provisions have been deemed inoperative by our courts, which have ruled that the Pennsylvania Constitution provides the exclusive grounds for the removal of an elected official.3 Removal requires the elected official’s conviction of an infamous crime or the common law crime of misbehavior in office.

The relevant provisions of the Pennsylvania Constitution are Article II, Section 7 (relating to ineligibility by criminal conviction of an infamous crime),4 Article VI, Section 6 (relating to officers liable to impeachment for misbehavior in office), and Article VI, Section 7 (relating to removal of civil officers for conviction of an infamous crime, misbehavior in office, or reasonable cause).

These provide the exclusive methods for removing elected officials, including elected local officials, thereby nullifying contrary statutory provisions. In conformity with the Constitution, a court is authorized to remove an elected official upon his or her conviction of an infamous crime.

INFAMOUS CRIME:

These include crimes such as forgery, perjury, embezzlement of public moneys, bribery, or like offenses.“[A] crime is infamous for purposes of Article II, Section 7, if its underlying facts establish a felony, a crimen falsi 7 offense, or a like offense involving the charge of falsehood that affects the public administration of justice.”

MISBEHAVIOR IN OFFICE:

“Misbehavior in office” as an impeachable offense under the Pennsylvania Constitution, Article VI, Section 6, is equivalent to the common-law crime of misconduct in office variously called misbehavior, misfeasance, or misdemeanor in office. It occurs when there is the breach of a positive statutory duty or the performance by a public official of a discretionary act with an improper or corrupt motive.

REASONABLE CAUSE:

In addition to the “self-executing” removals upon conviction in court (i.e., sentencing) of an infamous crime or misbehavior in office, as discussed above, or removal after impeachment pursuant to Article VI, Section 6 of the Pennsylvania Constitution, another means of removing an elected public officer, set forth in Article VI, Section 7, is removal “by the Governor for reasonable cause, after due notice and full hearing, on the address of two thirds of the Senate.” While discretion may reside in the Senate to find that various kinds of egregious behavior might constitute “reasonable cause” for removal, one can speculate the likelihood that the Senate would use a “reasonable cause” standard that is similar or equivalent to that standard applied for removal due to misbehavior in office or conviction of an infamous crime.
When

Beaver, PA

#8 Sep 17, 2013
Perry Mason wrote:
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Now you got your answer below. No charge for this services but send flowers to Della, my secretary.
I think that Mr. Carr and Mr. Gergely may have violated the "Misbehavior in Office statute" that is, "the performance by a public official of a discretionary act with an improper or corrupt motive."
Now who thinks they have the authority and responsibility to file the charges? The public, council, mayor, controller, DA, AG, US Attorney, state police, county police, or FBI? Watch the finger pointing now!
IMO and for the case of Mr. Carr, the HRC requires Mayor Cherepko to enforce all the laws of the Commonwealth as they apply to our beloved and beleaguered City. Go to it Mayor Cherepko - execute your responsibility and civic duty.
REMOVAL FROM OFFICE
Pennsylvania General Assembly
Local Government Commission Page 75
How can a local elected official be removed from office? There are some statutory and home rule charter provisions regarding the recall or removal2 of elected officials. These provisions have been deemed inoperative by our courts, which have ruled that the Pennsylvania Constitution provides the exclusive grounds for the removal of an elected official.3 Removal requires the elected official’s conviction of an infamous crime or the common law crime of misbehavior in office.
The relevant provisions of the Pennsylvania Constitution are Article II, Section 7 (relating to ineligibility by criminal conviction of an infamous crime),4 Article VI, Section 6 (relating to officers liable to impeachment for misbehavior in office), and Article VI, Section 7 (relating to removal of civil officers for conviction of an infamous crime, misbehavior in office, or reasonable cause).
These provide the exclusive methods for removing elected officials, including elected local officials, thereby nullifying contrary statutory provisions. In conformity with the Constitution, a court is authorized to remove an elected official upon his or her conviction of an infamous crime.
INFAMOUS CRIME:
These include crimes such as forgery, perjury, embezzlement of public moneys, bribery, or like offenses.“[A] crime is infamous for purposes of Article II, Section 7, if its underlying facts establish a felony, a crimen falsi 7 offense, or a like offense involving the charge of falsehood that affects the public administration of justice.”
MISBEHAVIOR IN OFFICE:
“Misbehavior in office” as an impeachable offense under the Pennsylvania Constitution, Article VI, Section 6, is equivalent to the common-law crime of misconduct in office variously called misbehavior, misfeasance, or misdemeanor in office. It occurs when there is the breach of a positive statutory duty or the performance by a public official of a discretionary act with an improper or corrupt motive.
REASONABLE CAUSE:
In addition to the “self-executing” removals upon conviction in court (i.e., sentencing) of an infamous crime or misbehavior in office, as discussed above, or removal after impeachment pursuant to Article VI, Section 6 of the Pennsylvania Constitution, another means of removing an elected public officer, set forth in Article VI, Section 7, is removal “by the Governor for reasonable cause, after due notice and full hearing, on the address of two thirds of the Senate.” While discretion may reside in the Senate to find that various kinds of egregious behavior might constitute “reasonable cause” for removal, one can speculate the likelihood that the Senate would use a “reasonable cause” standard that is similar or equivalent to that standard applied for removal due to misbehavior in office or conviction of an infamous crime.
The inept Mayor is the first one that needs to go!
Hobo Jim

Mckeesport, PA

#9 Sep 17, 2013
When wrote:
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You would have to check with the home rule charter and third class city regulations. I imagine, you would need to start a petition. You probably need a certain amount of signatures to recall our disgraced politicians.
A petition to force Mayor Cherepko per posting #7 to execute his HRC duties and responsibilities may help and start the ball rolling.
Concord

Indiana, PA

#10 Sep 18, 2013
Hobo Jim wrote:
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A petition to force Mayor Cherepko per posting #7 to execute his HRC duties and responsibilities may help and start the ball rolling.
lets do it!
State Constitution

Mckeesport, PA

#11 Sep 18, 2013
Hobo Jim wrote:
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A petition to force Mayor Cherepko per posting #7 to execute his HRC duties and responsibilities may help and start the ball rolling.
Mayor Cherepko's oath of office I believe included a pledge to up hold the Commonwealth's Constitution. The Constitution is the law for removal of elected officials.

Therefore, it might be the HRC, Oath of Office, and Constitution combination that makes it his duty and responsibility to remove Councilman Dan Carr.

That is my take, I am just a fast food worker for years and working on my GED. I want to go law school after I complete that very difficult GED program.
When

Beaver, PA

#12 Sep 18, 2013
We are not going to need a recall, after the authorities get done with City Hall! It is coming real soon. This is not a guess. I promise you.
The Fat Man

Mckeesport, PA

#13 Sep 18, 2013
When wrote:
We are not going to need a recall, after the authorities get done with City Hall! It is coming real soon. This is not a guess. I promise you.
I am not sure about what you project. No one, except Carr, has been or will be indicted at this time.

The City Hall's Achilles heel could be the under count of Porky's machine for city license purposes.
When

Beaver, PA

#14 Sep 18, 2013
The Fat Man wrote:
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I am not sure about what you project. No one, except Carr, has been or will be indicted at this time.
The City Hall's Achilles heel could be the under count of Porky's machine for city license purposes.
This gambling thing is nothing compared to what is about to happen...
Sam Spade

Mckeesport, PA

#15 Sep 18, 2013
When wrote:
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This gambling thing is nothing compared to what is about to happen...
You know more than me. I pray and hope your "about to happen" is a bombshell that clears the Mob Valley of all the dirty elected and appointed officials.
Mike Ference

Pittsburgh, PA

#16 Sep 18, 2013
Sam Spade wrote:
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You know more than me. I pray and hope your "about to happen" is a bombshell that clears the Mob Valley of all the dirty elected and appointed officials.
One possibility is the dismantling of the Zappala Crime Family. People thought and said it would never happen. Never doesn't always mean never.
When

Beaver, PA

#17 Sep 19, 2013
D-day is almost here. Can't wait!!!
When Is D Day

Mckeesport, PA

#18 Sep 21, 2013
When wrote:
D-day is almost here. Can't wait!!!
I consider D-Day the day the trial or trials start or when one or more flip and craft a plea bargain.
mike ference

Pittsburgh, PA

#19 Sep 22, 2013
Mike Ference wrote:
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One possibility is the dismantling of the Zappala Crime Family. People thought and said it would never happen. Never doesn't always mean never.
I'm getting reports from organizations telling me that our elected officials are afraid of the Zappala Crime Family. My assetions that the Zappala Crime Family or Al-Zappala Terrorists are true.

State Only

Mckeesport, PA

#20 Sep 22, 2013
mike ference wrote:
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I'm getting reports from organizations telling me that our elected officials are afraid of the Zappala Crime Family. My assetions that the Zappala Crime Family or Al-Zappala Terrorists are true.
Mr. Ference:

Can you explain or speculate why the Feds, County Police, McKeesport Police Department, or DA Zappala or other local police departments were not involved with the AG Kane and State Police in these SW PA video machine raids and subsequent 16 indictment, with more expected?

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