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Garbage and recycling collection , poor services in McKeesport

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shadango

Cheswick, PA

#1 Feb 9, 2009
I have been a resident in the Haler Heights area of McKeesport for 12 years now.

And each year I live here I become more and more frustrated with the management of our city.

I have always known that McKeesport is a depressed town and that will limit what it can do for its residents.

But here is an idea: Instead of spending my tax money to fund the International Village , something that I have NEVER been to and that only causes traffic tieups in my opinion, use the money to send out information on garbage pickups and recycling pickups.

I had to practically beg to get a recycling schedule sent out to me...I had also asked for info on garbage pickup.....I did this via phone calls and emails and got no response....I finally sent a letter in with my sewage bill and lo and behold a few days later I got a 2009 recycling schedule....but no info on garbage pickup and holiday schedules as I had asked for. Just the schedule in an envelope.

Did you know McKeesport has a website? www.mckeesport.org I believe. The city website is set up nicely, but it is not kept up to date as far as I can tell...and if you email someone on that site, you wont get a reply.

Why have the site if you dont keep it up to date?

Why offer email addresses (which is very convenient) if you dont intend on answering emails?

How hard would it be to have this info on the website?

You can see the minutes to council meetings, as long as you are ok with minutes that are almost a YEAR old.

I truly believe the city management forgets that it is tax payer dollars that keeps them employed and the city afloat at all. Certain services, like timely and convenient information, is something we pay for and should all demand.

And I won't even go into the hassles if you try and work with some of the city offices, like the building inspector.

If the management of McKeesport keeps this up, they will drive out the GOOD tax-paying base of residents that are left.
unknown

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#2 Feb 9, 2009
wow even the people in haler heights are getting disgusted!!!
white lightning

Mckeesport, PA

#3 Feb 9, 2009
You are right for most of your post,
most have already left the city starting
back in the mid-1980's when the mayor &
council allowed the city to become a major HUD town. I don't agree with your
International Village point, after all it's about all the city has left. And
how hard can it be to avoid the Renzie
Park area for 3 lousy days to make it up the hill. Just go around.
jimmy jam

Madison, TN

#4 Feb 12, 2009
shadango wrote:
I have been a resident in the Haler Heights area of McKeesport for 12 years now.
And each year I live here I become more and more frustrated with the management of our city.
I have always known that McKeesport is a depressed town and that will limit what it can do for its residents.
But here is an idea: Instead of spending my tax money to fund the International Village , something that I have NEVER been to and that only causes traffic tieups in my opinion, use the money to send out information on garbage pickups and recycling pickups.
I had to practically beg to get a recycling schedule sent out to me...I had also asked for info on garbage pickup.....I did this via phone calls and emails and got no response....I finally sent a letter in with my sewage bill and lo and behold a few days later I got a 2009 recycling schedule....but no info on garbage pickup and holiday schedules as I had asked for. Just the schedule in an envelope.
Did you know McKeesport has a website? www.mckeesport.org I believe. The city website is set up nicely, but it is not kept up to date as far as I can tell...and if you email someone on that site, you wont get a reply.
Why have the site if you dont keep it up to date?
Why offer email addresses (which is very convenient) if you dont intend on answering emails?
How hard would it be to have this info on the website?
You can see the minutes to council meetings, as long as you are ok with minutes that are almost a YEAR old.
I truly believe the city management forgets that it is tax payer dollars that keeps them employed and the city afloat at all. Certain services, like timely and convenient information, is something we pay for and should all demand.
And I won't even go into the hassles if you try and work with some of the city offices, like the building inspector.
If the management of McKeesport keeps this up, they will drive out the GOOD tax-paying base of residents that are left.
Try speaking directly to the g-man im sure they will answer and ?'s. Or at your convience fill your veheicle up with all your trash and dump it in crawford village thell never notice.
Paul Shelly Jr

Pittsburgh, PA

#5 Feb 15, 2009
Sorry for any lack of service you have experienced. I will alert the correct people to correct the problems and post the schedules on the web-site.

I have to disagree with International Village too. Perhaps if you took part you would see what a valuable event it is.

Councilman Shelly
jimmy jam

Madison, TN

#6 Feb 15, 2009
Paul Shelly Jr wrote:
Sorry for any lack of service you have experienced. I will alert the correct people to correct the problems and post the schedules on the web-site.
I have to disagree with International Village too. Perhaps if you took part you would see what a valuable event it is.
Councilman Shelly
sure you will
Paul Shelly Jr

Pittsburgh, PA

#7 Feb 15, 2009
Already been done.
FREEDOM

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#8 Feb 17, 2009
shadango wrote:
I have been a resident in the Haler Heights area of McKeesport for 12 years now.
And each year I live here I become more and more frustrated with the management of our city.
I have always known that McKeesport is a depressed town and that will limit what it can do for its residents.
But here is an idea: Instead of spending my tax money to fund the International Village , something that I have NEVER been to and that only causes traffic tieups in my opinion, use the money to send out information on garbage pickups and recycling pickups.
I had to practically beg to get a recycling schedule sent out to me...I had also asked for info on garbage pickup.....I did this via phone calls and emails and got no response....I finally sent a letter in with my sewage bill and lo and behold a few days later I got a 2009 recycling schedule....but no info on garbage pickup and holiday schedules as I had asked for. Just the schedule in an envelope.
Did you know McKeesport has a website? www.mckeesport.org I believe. The city website is set up nicely, but it is not kept up to date as far as I can tell...and if you email someone on that site, you wont get a reply.
Why have the site if you dont keep it up to date?
Why offer email addresses (which is very convenient) if you dont intend on answering emails?
How hard would it be to have this info on the website?
You can see the minutes to council meetings, as long as you are ok with minutes that are almost a YEAR old.
I truly believe the city management forgets that it is tax payer dollars that keeps them employed and the city afloat at all. Certain services, like timely and convenient information, is something we pay for and should all demand.
And I won't even go into the hassles if you try and work with some of the city offices, like the building inspector.
If the management of McKeesport keeps this up, they will drive out the GOOD tax-paying base of residents that are left.
Who here has ever spoken to anyone of so-called importance within the city of Mckeesport, PA.? What were the results of such a conversation?*This does not include council members because Iexpect a positive result for them.

Anyone brought any issues directly to the mayor?
shadango

Cheswick, PA

#9 Feb 18, 2009
white lightning wrote:
And
how hard can it be to avoid the Renzie
Park area for 3 lousy days to make it up the hill. Just go around.
You obviously dont live in the area.....In order to just go around, it takes me an extra 8-10 minutes becuae you have to go through white oak...it is extra miles, etc....

Like I said, I get NOTHING from International Village.

Let them hold it downtown somewhere and bring people to a part of town that NEEDS more traffic.
shadango

Cheswick, PA

#10 Feb 18, 2009
Paul Shelly Jr wrote:
Sorry for any lack of service you have experienced. I will alert the correct people to correct the problems and post the schedules on the web-site.
I have to disagree with International Village too. Perhaps if you took part you would see what a valuable event it is.
Councilman Shelly
Thanks Paul....

Its more the lack of INFORMATION I am upset about more than anything.

I have been griping about the lack of info on the website for a couple years now.

At one point I even volunteered to help with the website.

Been griping about the lack of info as far as recycling schedules and such for years now.

No one reads the paper anymore....particulalrly the Daily News....sad to say, but different times...so if there is info there, who would ever see it?

I write a letter to the city and include it with my last MSF bill asking for a recycling schedule and info as to what holidays are "garbage" holidays, etc.....I get a recyling schedule in the mail in an envelope...no other info at all. Not even a note acknowledging my info request.

Dont ever hear from any of the city officials until its election time and they come knocking on the doors. LOL You would be the exception -- I have seen you get involved with things....

I tried getting help from the building inspectors office when I was having trouble with a shady contractor....when I coukld finally get in touch with him, I was told that the city couldnt get involved...meanwhile, the city KNEW the contractor never pulled permits and let him get away with it. Sub-par work was done on my house and the inspecter said that was not his concern.

I guess collecting the tax is his only concern, and in my case he didnt even concern himself with that. I tried doing my duty as a resident and followed the normal protocol and got no where.

So, my second experience with the city on an official level was met with disapointment.

My first goes back a few years and was a enighborhood matter and it was also met with mediocre response.

Sorry.....if McKeesport is to ever start to be seen as a great place to live , it needs to improve its image starting on the INSIDE and work out.

As far as International Village -- it brings a few extra people from other surrounding towns into the city for a few days. To use a phrase Paul Long used to use -- Whoopee ding. There are no surrounding businesses that could possibly be seeing any sort of gain from the festival.....Take it to downtown where it used to be years ago and help out the small businesses down there. get people down THERE.

Like I said, I have no interest in going...lived in the city for 12 years, never been there once except for sitting in the traffic jams it creates. I am OK with it if it can be shown to really help out the city......But I cant see how it does.
shadango

Cheswick, PA

#11 Feb 18, 2009
Paul Shelly Jr wrote:
Already been done.
Can you please post the link for it online?

I just checked and it is still showing the 2008 schedules.

http://www.mckeesport.org/green_recycle.jpg

Also, the Council minutes are still woefully out of date, with april 08 being the last posted minutes.
Paul Shelly Jr

Pittsburgh, PA

#12 Feb 18, 2009
I put in the request by email. It must haven't been followed up on. I'll make a call today. Sorry.
shadango

Cheswick, PA

#13 Feb 18, 2009
LOL...with all due respect, I expect they are ignoring you just as they ignore me and anyone else.... if you used the same email addresses tha tare posted on the website...good luck with that.

I have tried over and over using those email addresses and have never ONCE recieved a reply back.......When I was trying to get help from the Building "Inspector's" office,(should be more like "Building Improvemnet tax collector's office"...yes, that was a dig), I emailed numerous times. Not one response via email.

I have emailed on the garbage stuff and on recycling stuff and on neighborhood stuff.

I think once an email was followed up by a phone call.

I figure one of the following:

a- never got them (better check the service then because offering an email address and not making sure you GET the emails is akin to ignoring the emails)
b - got them and didnt feel a need to reply (aren;t these people tha thave email addresses public servants on MY payroll?)
c - was afraid to put anything in writing
....judging by my experience with the building office last summer, that is MY guess.

Paul, information and transparency is the key to making residents feel involved in the city.

You are a big advocate of people getting involved.

One shouldnt have to be a council member or complain on a public web forum to get things done.

....but that's just my opinion.
FREEDOM

AOL

#14 Feb 19, 2009
shadango wrote:
<quoted text>
You obviously dont live in the area.....In order to just go around, it takes me an extra 8-10 minutes becuae you have to go through white oak...it is extra miles, etc....
Like I said, I get NOTHING from International Village.
Let them hold it downtown somewhere and bring people to a part of town that NEEDS more traffic.
I agree with the more traffic part, and it seems the International Village is more of a food sales event, as is the BBQ event.

Want to get a good idea of nationalities, go out and meet people all over in person. Then you will know first hand what other nationalities are like as they will gladly tell you all about themselves.

God Bless.

FREEDOM

AOL

#15 Feb 19, 2009
shadango wrote:
LOL...with all due respect, I expect they are ignoring you just as they ignore me and anyone else.... if you used the same email addresses tha tare posted on the website...good luck with that.
I have tried over and over using those email addresses and have never ONCE recieved a reply back.......When I was trying to get help from the Building "Inspector's" office,(should be more like "Building Improvemnet tax collector's office"...yes, that was a dig), I emailed numerous times. Not one response via email.
I have emailed on the garbage stuff and on recycling stuff and on neighborhood stuff.
I think once an email was followed up by a phone call.
I figure one of the following:
a- never got them (better check the service then because offering an email address and not making sure you GET the emails is akin to ignoring the emails)
b - got them and didnt feel a need to reply (aren;t these people tha thave email addresses public servants on MY payroll?)
c - was afraid to put anything in writing
....judging by my experience with the building office last summer, that is MY guess.
Paul, information and transparency is the key to making residents feel involved in the city.
You are a big advocate of people getting involved.
One shouldnt have to be a council member or complain on a public web forum to get things done.
....but that's just my opinion.
I agree completely, when people ask for help it seems to go ignored, or answered with I do not care, worse yet sometimes with anger. This is the result from many people asked.

Many people say to ask the mayor, and who knows what to expect but try anyway. At least that way, you can find out.

The mayor may be found several ways: one floor down from his office, check in the rooms there. Sometimes in front of the building, other times at the cities monthly public city council meetings. Find out about those, and be certain to sign in you like to say something before the meeting begind, a requirement many may be unaware of. Other ways are to write a certified letter that only he may receive and sign for.:) Post office can inform you of the type of mail and the postage extra costs, but maybe worth it. Find out where the demolition meetings occur, perhaps you may be able to find him there.:)

Always ask, never certain when someone may know.
Will he help you: some swear by it, may as well try to find out.

God Bless.
Paul Shelly Jr

Pittsburgh, PA

#16 Feb 19, 2009
I physically visited City Hall yesterday and submitted the request in writing. I just checked and it hasn't been updated yet. I'll check again in a few days.

Garbage schedules, I believe, are more at the discretion of the collector. The Daily News used to run snippets on garbage collection on or around holidays. Not sure if they still do. I'll inquire. I forgot.
jimmy jam

Madison, TN

#17 Feb 21, 2009
FREEDOM wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with the more traffic part, and it seems the International Village is more of a food sales event, as is the BBQ event.
Want to get a good idea of nationalities, go out and meet people all over in person. Then you will know first hand what other nationalities are like as they will gladly tell you all about themselves.
God Bless.
what world are you living in freedom?
FREEDOM

AOL

#18 Feb 21, 2009
A good idea would be if each nationality booth had a display of missionary families on a board. And the best way to support the nationalities would be to have someone from the various churches then collect the funds and help spread the word of God! That would be wonderful to do, and be very supportive of those who do the work of God.
jimmy jam

Madison, TN

#19 Feb 23, 2009
shadango wrote:
I have been a resident in the Haler Heights area of McKeesport for 12 years now.
And each year I live here I become more and more frustrated with the management of our city.
I have always known that McKeesport is a depressed town and that will limit what it can do for its residents.
But here is an idea: Instead of spending my tax money to fund the International Village , something that I have NEVER been to and that only causes traffic tieups in my opinion, use the money to send out information on garbage pickups and recycling pickups.
I had to practically beg to get a recycling schedule sent out to me...I had also asked for info on garbage pickup.....I did this via phone calls and emails and got no response....I finally sent a letter in with my sewage bill and lo and behold a few days later I got a 2009 recycling schedule....but no info on garbage pickup and holiday schedules as I had asked for. Just the schedule in an envelope.
Did you know McKeesport has a website? www.mckeesport.org I believe. The city website is set up nicely, but it is not kept up to date as far as I can tell...and if you email someone on that site, you wont get a reply.
Why have the site if you dont keep it up to date?
Why offer email addresses (which is very convenient) if you dont intend on answering emails?
How hard would it be to have this info on the website?
You can see the minutes to council meetings, as long as you are ok with minutes that are almost a YEAR old.
I truly believe the city management forgets that it is tax payer dollars that keeps them employed and the city afloat at all. Certain services, like timely and convenient information, is something we pay for and should all demand.
And I won't even go into the hassles if you try and work with some of the city offices, like the building inspector.
If the management of McKeesport keeps this up, they will drive out the GOOD tax-paying base of residents that are left.
did you ever get you updated trash schedule?
shadango

Cheswick, PA

#20 Feb 24, 2009
Jimmy jam,

Never got the trash schedule as I had requested......did receive the recycling schedule....by itself, in an envelope, with no addressing of my questions as to what holidays are considered holidays for the pickup, etc.

And I just check yesterday and the council meeting minutes are still over a year old....LOL

The mayor says he wants people involved in the community...then when we try to be, we get no feedback or help.

Its laughable.

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