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thinker

Pikeville, KY

#1 May 20, 2012
What if we all stop talking about the other peoples problems, and clean up our own back yard, and figure out what we can do to help this country?
great

Bays, KY

#2 May 20, 2012
what things are you going to be doing to help?
thinker

Pikeville, KY

#3 May 21, 2012
That`s a fair question. Right now I would like to see a friendly debate on the subject so it might be possible to really do something to solve the problem instead of being part of the problem.In my time I have seen some changes in this country, some good and some not so good. There are some smart people on here and if we tried we might be able to do some good and come up with ideas that haven`t even been thought of yet. We have learned in the past that those who speak out and combine our efforts are the ones who get things done.For now I`m trying to get the ball rolling. If anyone has some possible answers that is a start.
voter

East Point, KY

#4 May 21, 2012
thinker wrote:
That`s a fair question. Right now I would like to see a friendly debate on the subject so it might be possible to really do something to solve the problem instead of being part of the problem.In my time I have seen some changes in this country, some good and some not so good. There are some smart people on here and if we tried we might be able to do some good and come up with ideas that haven`t even been thought of yet. We have learned in the past that those who speak out and combine our efforts are the ones who get things done.For now I`m trying to get the ball rolling. If anyone has some possible answers that is a start.
Your right!So lets all get out and vote for Marie Rader tomorrow!
ohyea

Chesterfield, MO

#5 May 21, 2012
I think that is a great idea! What all can we do to make our communtiy and our world a better place?
thinker

Pikeville, KY

#6 May 22, 2012
First let me say I don`t have all the answers. That`s why I would like to see some suggestions from other people on here. I`m thinking something kind of like a neighborhood watch that many cities have. It doesn`t have to be a big deal, just watch out for your neighbor.
Something else I see a lot on here about "rats". Who worries about rats? The law abiding people do not worry about rats. If I see someone stealing you car and call 911 to report it and you get your car back would you call me a rat or a friend? Let me hear your thoughts pro or con.
ohyea

Chesterfield, MO

#7 May 22, 2012
I thinl a good way to start is just being kinder to one another, helping our neighbor. Also I think we need to take back our county. We need to take a stand against everything that is destroying this place and our people and do our best to clean it up.
thinker

Pikeville, KY

#8 May 22, 2012
ohyea,

We are on the same track of thought. We may have to start with our own community and help people realize that enabling someone with a drug or drinking problem is not only killing the person useing, but leads to spouse and child abuse. When we go about it to help instead of hurt we are headed in the right direction. Once a person is off drugs and alcohol ( a drug also of couse ) they are usually pretty nice people. I have met many recovering addicts who once off the stuff are real fine citizens. Guess we have to take it one step at a time and not feel ( holier than thou) but with the right motives. Thanks ohyea.
Duke Snider

Virgie, KY

#9 May 22, 2012
Get rid of Obama....get rid of all the sitting Congressmen and women. Get rid of all the incumbents and put in conservatives. That will be the first step.

Guarantee the day after Obama looses the economy and hiring picks up quickly...

PS...I VOTED AGAINST MARIE...been there too long and time for her do nothing butt to go.
keepthechange

East Point, KY

#10 May 22, 2012
WELL BECAUSE not many on here like either you or Fat albert, you helped her to get re elected. Iam sure if both you would have stayed quiet, her opponote would have gotten at least a few more votes.Maybe they will wise up next time.
well

Annville, KY

#11 May 23, 2012
I dont care that much for Marie, but no way was I gonna vote for Cameron
thinker

Pikeville, KY

#12 May 23, 2012
Well, a lot of people are vacationing now,and I feel the need for one to. Some time in the woods with birds and the bees, trees etco sounds pretty good. Not too many bees I hope and I can do without the snakes.
Keep the ball rolling and I hope to be back with you in a few.
something to ponder

Virgie, KY

#13 May 23, 2012
A few problems with having a better community. The drugs are a huge problem, causing stealing, robberies, etc. The law doesn't seem to care, if you're from the right side of the tracks, then just go have a talk with 1 or more of your elected officials and they will surely set you free. Why should our druggies want help when the officials have gotten them out of any trouble they have ever been in just wanting a few votes in return. Another huge problem, we need Judges to use the law when it comes to criminal acts and not allow the elected officials to influnce the Judge in following the rules of the law. Will any of this change? No, because they care more for the vote and the well being of their own than the well being of other families and our communities. So what do we as caring citizens of the communities do? Nothing! as we tried 05-22-2012 and it didn't work then and it hasn't worked in the past and it's not going to work in the future.
jdohe

Nashville, TN

#14 May 28, 2012
thinker, thanks for your excellent post & optimistic point of view. Now, how to keep this thread on the bright side? I wish you totally positive results.
thinker

Pikeville, KY

#15 May 29, 2012
Thanks,jdohe I really needed that.
Hope all of you had a nice safe weekend. Mine was busy but productive.
To the addict which includes anyone addict to alcohol, Ifyou are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY tired of the way you are living and KNOW WITHIN YOURSELVE YOU WANT TO QUIT, you can. Thousands and thousands of people can tell you the same thing because they have been where you are and quit. I quit over twenty four years ago and life has been MUCH, MUCH better since. Life is not a bed of roses for anyone but is a lot better once it is out of your system for awhile.
There are at least four way people do that.
One is quit on your own. Very hard to do.
Next some get into church and I mean really sincerely and quit.
Some go to comp. care and are able to quit.
What I did was go into rehab. and into alcoholics
and other addicts twelve step programs where you talk and listen to other people tell their stories and how they quit. I actually learned to like going and making new friends and talking with sober people.
On my next post I hope to tell some of my story and how much better it has been.
Don`t give up you can have a much better life.
thinker

Pikeville, KY

#16 May 30, 2012
In order to let any addict know that I know from experience what I`m putting on here, here is a very short version of what happened to me when addiction got out of control.
I had an attractive wife, a nice house, two cars and a decent job. I later ended up with not enough money to make a phone call from a pay phone.
I`m no stranger to jail, car wrecks, black outs(That is when I would get home after heavy use and the next morning rush out to see if I might have hit someone). I didn`t even remember dring home the night before. I lost my self respect and the respect of others. I have slept in cars many times when I didn`t have a house or apt. Later the car was gone. I quit a management job with a future because I got so I couldn`t even do the job.
In alcoholics anonymous and narcotics anonymous you can a lot of stories like this and some much worse. As I said this is a very short version, I could talk for an hour and only cover a very short part of what happened.
Next post I plan to tell what I did that started me on the road to recovery and how things are today.

“Plumb Tickled To Death!”

Since: Mar 09

NOT King George, VA

#17 May 30, 2012
thinker,

Your posts are interesting. When you post next, I was wondering if you might also include which substance(s) you became addicted to and what led to you becoming an addict?
thinker

Pikeville, KY

#18 May 30, 2012
my addiction was alcohol. Alcohol is a drug of course. While there are some drugs that are harder to quit(maybe) anyone who has ever been one knows for some people it is terrible. Some people can drink all their lives and never become addicted to alcohol,( my opinion)many get in just as bad a condition as almost any other drug.
As to what caused me or anyone to drink enough to become addicted and why some do become that way, is I think being debated. It does seem to run in familys sometimes but not always.
I think you would agree that the important thing is no matter what the drug or the cause is, quitting and trying to help other people quit is the thing to do.
thinker

Pikeville, KY

#19 May 30, 2012
I better clarify something in my last post real fast. While it`s my opinion that everyone who drinks a lot for a long time doesn`t become addicted that may or may not be the way it is.
But I really want to make plain, is that about all other drugs that are abused cause addiction in anyone fast and some the first time.

“Plumb Tickled To Death!”

Since: Mar 09

NOT King George, VA

#20 May 30, 2012
Yeah, I think alcohol addiction is as serious as any drug addiction. Also, getting over alcohol dependency could possibly be harder than other drugs since social drinking and excessive use of alcohol doesn't seem to carry the same social stigma some other substances do.

I do agree with you that the important thing isn't really the type of drug, and trying to help others is the thing to do. But wouldn't it be great if there was some way to help prevent others from ever becoming addicted to begin with...a way to help them understand how easy an addiction can start, or recognize what types of behavior or feelings can lead to an addiction? Do you think it is probably easier to avoid becoming addicted to begin with, than it is to overcome an addiction?

That is why I was wondering about some of the things that may have led to you becoming dependent on alcohol; I thought it might help show how easy an addiction can begin by using and depending on a drug of any type to help deal with everyday things like stress, loneliness, depression, relationship problems, peer pressure, and etc...also with younger persons who decide they just want to experiment with different things but end up addicted before they realize what is happening.

Anyhow, I didn't mean to interrupt; I look forward to reading more of your posts.

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