Buying Arrowheads and Artifacts

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Duke Snider

Annville, KY

#1 May 14, 2012
I buy authentic Arrowheads and other Indian related artifacts. I do not want broken up ones or modern made ones. I do pay fair prices for them including well made stone axes, celts, pipes, and just about anything else they made.

I like to collect old presidential campaign items such as buttons, banners, pins, etc. I prefer the older ones like pre-Nixon.

I do collect some old coins and money as well, but this is a limited interest.

Civil War items are also of a great interest including confederate currency.

If you have any of this drop me a line and maybe we can do business.
copout

Tyner, KY

#2 May 14, 2012
Duke Snider wrote:
I buy authentic Arrowheads and other Indian related artifacts. I do not want broken up ones or modern made ones. I do pay fair prices for them including well made stone axes, celts, pipes, and just about anything else they made.
I like to collect old presidential campaign items such as buttons, banners, pins, etc. I prefer the older ones like pre-Nixon.
I do collect some old coins and money as well, but this is a limited interest.
Civil War items are also of a great interest including confederate currency.
If you have any of this drop me a line and maybe we can do business.
Illegal to buy this stuff, goofy, guess thats u on dial and deal every day wanting to buy all this stuff,,,
Duke Snider

Annville, KY

#3 May 14, 2012
copout wrote:
<quoted text>Illegal to buy this stuff, goofy, guess thats u on dial and deal every day wanting to buy all this stuff,,,
It is not illegal to buy this stuff. If it were I saw about 800 people over the weekend breaking the law at an advertised artifact show -- THEY HAVE THEM NEARLY EVERY WEEKEND SOME PLACE....LOL

Shows what you know.

And no I don't go on dial a deal and haven't heard it in about 3 years. Local radio doesn't interest me.

Doesn't matter anyhow. If someone has it and wants to sell I am interested in buying it.
Arrowheads

Virgie, KY

#4 May 14, 2012
I have got some arrowheads where is your shop at?
Duke Snider

Annville, KY

#5 May 14, 2012
Arrowheads wrote:
I have got some arrowheads where is your shop at?
I don't have a shop. I do it at home as a hobby. I can meet you somewhere.

I sold my collection to pay for the adoption of a couple of kids. Now it is over I want to rebuild it.
smile

Mckee, KY

#6 May 14, 2012
i have a 1682 new england shelling. if u are lookin for those?
Duke Snider

Annville, KY

#7 May 14, 2012
smile wrote:
i have a 1682 new england shelling. if u are lookin for those?
I assume you meant shilling...silver or copper? If the coin is real and in good shape I might be..

Duke
curious

Mckee, KY

#8 May 14, 2012
Do you know what a confederate $500.00 bill is worth? It is original, not fake.I have had it for about 50 years.I am not a collecter or anything.
Wrong

Martin, KY

#9 May 15, 2012
Grave digging is illegal but you can pick up or buy/trade any artifacts you want. Get-em Duke! I have an old Indian clay smoking pipe the Idians used for their marijuana peace smoking pipe. If I can find it I will get back with you. I wasn't there but I'm sure marijuana had them thinking they were at peace with everyone. Heck! the Indians even loved the white man after takin a tote. White men did them wrong,wrong & then added some more wrong to it. How sad! For this reason, I continue to have feelings for Indian.
Duke Snider

Annville, KY

#10 May 15, 2012
curious wrote:
Do you know what a confederate $500.00 bill is worth? It is original, not fake.I have had it for about 50 years.I am not a collecter or anything.
That would depend a lot on the condition it is in. In mint or absolutely perfect condition, graded by a certified company like PMG and sealed (which is almost non-existent type rare) it could be worth a few hundred dollars to as much as $800.00 in the RIGHT AUCTION WITH THE RIGHT BUYERS.

In most circulated conditions it could be worth little if it is overly worn out and tattered to a couple of hundred.

I can't say without looking at it and this system get's bent if you put out an e-mail.

However, I am in the local book that I could give you the email on the phone call if you want to send a picture -- just like the name is spelled on here.
Duke Snider

Annville, KY

#11 May 15, 2012
Wrong wrote:
Grave digging is illegal but you can pick up or buy/trade any artifacts you want. Get-em Duke! I have an old Indian clay smoking pipe the Idians used for their marijuana peace smoking pipe. If I can find it I will get back with you. I wasn't there but I'm sure marijuana had them thinking they were at peace with everyone. Heck! the Indians even loved the white man after takin a tote. White men did them wrong,wrong & then added some more wrong to it. How sad! For this reason, I continue to have feelings for Indian.
What the law says is YOU CAN'T KNOWINGLY DIG A GRAVE...lol.. you are supposed to stop when you hit human bones and call the county coroner in and if he deems it is a prehistoric Indian and not a murder he is supposed to remove the body. Whatever is with it technically is still yours to take, but you might have trouble getting it if they call it evidence...lol...

I'd like to see the pipe assuming you haven't smoked anything questionable out of it.

They really didn't smoke a lot of dope... They smoked Kinnikinnik. It was a mix of tobacco (which is a sacred herb to Native Americans) sweetgass, sage, willow bark, and sometimes other harmless plant material.

Marijuana isn't native to america. It comes from Asia. It wasn't even seen in america before the 20th century and couldn't have been smoked by them.
Duke Snider

Annville, KY

#12 May 15, 2012
smile wrote:
i have a 1682 new england shelling. if u are lookin for those?
I forgot it could also be a paper note...
copout

Tyner, KY

#13 May 15, 2012
Duke Snider wrote:
<quoted text>
What the law says is YOU CAN'T KNOWINGLY DIG A GRAVE...lol.. you are supposed to stop when you hit human bones and call the county coroner in and if he deems it is a prehistoric Indian and not a murder he is supposed to remove the body. Whatever is with it technically is still yours to take, but you might have trouble getting it if they call it evidence...lol...
I'd like to see the pipe assuming you haven't smoked anything questionable out of it.
They really didn't smoke a lot of dope... They smoked Kinnikinnik. It was a mix of tobacco (which is a sacred herb to Native Americans) sweetgass, sage, willow bark, and sometimes other harmless plant material.
Marijuana isn't native to america. It comes from Asia. It wasn't even seen in america before the 20th century and couldn't have been smoked by them.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Mr. Know it all,, im so sick of you being on here every second of the day,, if someone makes a statement, u have a different version of it,, u can never say, good job,,, or your right,,,, your so full of shit its coming out your mouth, and u dont even know it,,, leave !@!!!!!!!!
Duke Snider

Annville, KY

#14 May 15, 2012
copout wrote:
<quoted text> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Mr. Know it all,, im so sick of you being on here every second of the day,, if someone makes a statement, u have a different version of it,, u can never say, good job,,, or your right,,,, your so full of shit its coming out your mouth, and u dont even know it,,, leave !@!!!!!!!!
GREAT JOB OF POSTING PROFANITY!

Feel better now?

It's not my fault you don't know the law.

I'm not on here every second of every day. Go look at the time stamps...lol...or can't you comprehend those either?

I'm sorry if you got offended by spouting illegalities on a subject I know a lot about. I do this as a hobby. I have done this for decades. I have written dozens of articles on archeology among other things. I follow these laws closely.

If I were doing anything illegal why would I post my name on topics and solicit them on an open forum?

Get a grip. No one peed on your shoes, unless you missed the pot yourself.
Wrong

Martin, KY

#15 May 15, 2012
I followed up on some of Dukes' knowledge and he actually knows alot of what he speaks about. We could learn something from his knowledge if one will read and follow up. I once thought he was full of (it) but, at least for the moment, i've changed my mind. I wish he could have been the investigater on the Marcum case. Get-em Duke!
Duke Snider

Annville, KY

#16 May 15, 2012
Wrong wrote:
I followed up on some of Dukes' knowledge and he actually knows alot of what he speaks about. We could learn something from his knowledge if one will read and follow up. I once thought he was full of (it) but, at least for the moment, i've changed my mind. I wish he could have been the investigater on the Marcum case. Get-em Duke!
Well, I'm not the brightest bulb on the string and glad I wasn't, but I don't think I would have handled it as it was...

That is all I can say about that case.

Appreciate the compliment.
Someone who know s too

Annville, KY

#17 May 16, 2012
http://heritage.ky.gov/kas/archmyths.htm
MYTH: It's Okay To Pick Up Artifacts Because If You Don't, Someone Else Will. Besides, The Site Won't Last Long Anyway.
REALITY: Removing artifacts without using proper scientific methods destroys evidence. This is what pot hunters and surface collectors do. Archaeological sites do not have to be excavated and actually survive best if left untouched. In addition, federal and state laws prohibit the removal of artifacts from public lands without a permit.
just me

Virgie, KY

#18 May 16, 2012
You ain't suppose to get them off government land they ain't nothing wrong with getting them off private lands. I think all graves need left alone be they indians or whites or on private lands.
smile

Mckee, KY

#19 May 16, 2012
its silver and its a 1652 my bad. its in good condition tho.
Duke Snider

Annville, KY

#20 May 16, 2012
Someone who know s too wrote:
http://heritage.ky.gov/kas/arc hmyths.htm
MYTH: It's Okay To Pick Up Artifacts Because If You Don't, Someone Else Will. Besides, The Site Won't Last Long Anyway.
REALITY: Removing artifacts without using proper scientific methods destroys evidence. This is what pot hunters and surface collectors do. Archaeological sites do not have to be excavated and actually survive best if left untouched. In addition, federal and state laws prohibit the removal of artifacts from public lands without a permit.
This theme about removing artifacts without using proper scientific methods was written for and by archeologist who are more interested in job security than anything else. They want the credit for coming up with some half-baked ideas instead of the collector.

The truth is the collector finds most of these sites and often will report them to the archeologist who won't do squat unless the government gives them millions to do a field research.

Have you watched them survey a site? They dig 5 or 6 3 foot by 3 foot down to the clay (maybe another 3 feet deep) and sift the dirt. From that the determine if there is really a village site or not.

If they find a burial by accident they might excavate it or simply note the bones they uncovered in the hole.

If they find a few points or broken points they do nothing but note them and from a few fragments they write everything there is to know about the site -- period, etc.. etc... In short it is a work of imaginative fiction.

Anything on the surface is considered in the plow zone, and has not context or relationship to what might be found there as it is disturbed and considered not in "situ" or in situation with something identifiable.

On a really well funded dig they might have an earth mover scrape off the first foot or so (the plow zone) of earth (and of course crushing a lot of stuff below it from the heavy weight of the machinery) so they can get a look at the hidden "structure" sometimes this does expose old fire pits, post holes, disturbed ground such as graves, and the outline of where houses or huts might have been - depending on period of the site --

They might - if the funding is great enough (and they really charge big bucks for doing it) use a string to mark out grids and the excavate the site fairly well -- most often only a small part of it as they want future funding to do it again and again and do just enough to justify another grant claiming the first hundreds of thousands of dollars or even millions just wasn't enough.

The stuff they do find they catalog, write a number on it, make a cast of it -- or several -- throw the original in box in the back room where eventually it is decided it belongs to some Indian group alive today even though there is NOTHING that says who we encountered were remotely related to anything a 1000 years ago because of the Federal Laws or it magically is lost (more often than not sold out the back door) and claimed it was a book keeping error and a cast was accidentally put into storage.

I've seen this scenario for over 40 years repeated over and over.

Don't buy into the unless an archeologist finds it it has no value BS. What is on private land is the owners or who he says can go pick it up.

As far as the fiction they write or the archeological report. NO ONE SEES IT EXCEPT MAYBE ANOTHER ARCHEOLOGIST IN SOME COLLEGE somewhere. It isn't put out for public knowledge and no one learns anything from it. In short, it is a big waste of money that benefits only a few of the enlightened.

HERE IS FACT: THESE GUYS CAN'T OFTEN TELL A REPRODUCTION FROM AN AUTHENTIC POINT.

They also can't tell you how the Indians crushed the mussel shell to the fine grit they used in the Mississippian pottery -- NOT UNTIL I DISCOVERED IT AND PRINTED IT INTO THE OHIO ARCHEOLOGIST MAGAZINE, and that is just one of my discoveries...lol...

A lot of collectors contribute more than them.

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