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wahoo

Bays, KY

#1 Jan 6, 2013
What if almost everything we are taught about science is wrong? Think about it, how many times have ideas changed about the universe and the earth in the last fifty years?

“Plumb Tickled To Death!”

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#2 Jan 6, 2013
I don't know, but in the field of science I think Einstein's unified field theory (not that I know anything about it) may be the major key to a lot of mysteries and technology yet to be discovered.
wahoo

Bays, KY

#3 Jan 7, 2013
Well, we are alike in one respect,I don`t anything about it either.
Just Think

Nebo, KY

#4 Jan 7, 2013
wahoo wrote:
What if almost everything we are taught about science is wrong? Think about it, how many times have ideas changed about the universe and the earth in the last fifty years?
Well I have had that question posed to me many,many times over the years and its an ok question, I mean we should question everything....But that includes EVERYTHING.

See I have this question posed to me by Christians especially, mostly because science does not support superstitious things/ or supernatural things. Oh usually when “supernatural” things are scientifically investigated…..its always proven to be natural. Like earthquakes, in the 1300’s earthquakes happened because gods were mad….now…we have plate tectonics. PROVEN SCIENCE.

But its strange how the religious pick and choose what science they believe/accepts...for example

Your baby is sick...fever 103 very weak and passing out...what do 99% of parents do?

You take them to the SCIENTIFIC hospital to see the SCIENTIFIC doctor to get some SCIENTIFICALLY proven treatment.

If you went to the ER and in one room they pray for your baby and the other room they will use science to cure your baby....which room do you choose?

All I am saying is sure question science, but to be fair you also have to question your other beliefs (like your religion/god/prophets)

Why is it ok to question one but not the other? You say maybe what you/we have been told about science is false/wrong, well couldn't that also mean that what you have been TOLD about god/religion could also be false?

Why could one lie survive but not the other?
Just Think

Nebo, KY

#5 Jan 7, 2013
Examining the Claims: Bible Science Debunked

A fun read.

http://home.nctv.com/jackjan/item65.htm
wahoo

Bays, KY

#6 Jan 7, 2013
I have questioned the religion I was brought up in and some of the others. I still question many things. There seems to be a difference between you and I in that you show a need to point that out to other people where I seldom do without being asked. That`s your right, I just wanted to point that out. If I were an athiest wouldn`t feel the need to try to convert other people to that.
My belief is some day our medicine will be looked on as harmful in some cases, and doing damage. We do the best we can at the time.
Just Think

Nebo, KY

#7 Jan 7, 2013
wahoo wrote:
I have questioned the religion I was brought up in and some of the others. I still question many things. There seems to be a difference between you and I in that you show a need to point that out to other people where I seldom do without being asked. That`s your right, I just wanted to point that out. If I were an athiest wouldn`t feel the need to try to convert other people to that.
My belief is some day our medicine will be looked on as harmful in some cases, and doing damage. We do the best we can at the time.
well most meds do what they are designed to do, however its the ABUSE and excess use/ misuse that causes problems.

Take ex-lax.... one pill a week may keep you regular but taking 5 full boxes a week may cause a few side effects.(LOL)

Oh, and im not trying to convert anyone, but if we are questioning things....why not question EVERYTHING?
wahoo

Bays, KY

#8 Jan 7, 2013
I have had talks like this many times in person with folks, at times I have even argued from your standpoint. If you want to see some debates like this you can find them online. Try Dan Barker and some of his. Looks to me like you/we can really come to a 100% conclusion to these questions. Religion is based a lot on faith.
I think you like to argue for one thing and I had a wife like that, sure was nice to get away from her. Type all you want but until you can prove your position in a court of law without a shadow of a doubt, we are wasting our time.

“Plumb Tickled To Death!”

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#9 Jan 7, 2013
My own personal spiritual beliefs, and that which can be PROVEN by science (not simply scientific theory) do not conflict.
bak2dadrawingbor ed

Mckee, KY

#10 Jan 7, 2013
Just Think wrote:
Examining the Claims: Bible Science Debunked
A fun read.
http://home.nctv.com/jackjan/item65.htm
if the information on this hand crafted website were so true then why does it say constantly "my belief"??
bak2dadrawingbor ed

Mckee, KY

#11 Jan 7, 2013
oops it says "MY RESPONSE" rather than "my belief"....don't want to have flawed facts now
Reality Rules

Dallas, TX

#12 Jan 11, 2013
Interestingly the angry god theorist's grasp on the cause of earthquakes were as close to being correct as the grasp science previously had on the matter.

Science had it wrong as well up until only a few years ago. Does science have the correct theory now or will plate tectonics be replaced as it replaced these scientific theories previously used by science to explain earthquakes:

Neptunism is a discredited and obsolete scientific theory of geology proposed by Abraham Gottlob Werner in the late 18th century that proposed rocks formed from the crystallisation of minerals in the early Earth's oceans.

Expanding Earth or Growing Earth is a hypothesis asserting that the position and relative movement of continents is at least partially due to the volume of the Earth increasing. While suggested historically, since the recognition of plate tectonics in the 1970s, scientific consensus has rejected any expansion or contraction of the Earth.

Other superseded scientific theories ... many much more silly than the angry earthquake gods:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superseded_scien...
Reality Rules

Dallas, TX

#13 Jan 11, 2013
I think we must examine whether science does or does not support the superstitious or supernatural ... history says IT DOES, INDEED:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_gene...

Apparently we must question EVERYTHING ...
Reality Bites

Phoenix, AZ

#14 Jan 14, 2013
Honest Babe wrote:
I don't know, but in the field of science I think Einstein's unified field theory (not that I know anything about it) may be the major key to a lot of mysteries and technology yet to be discovered.
So, Honest Babe, what do you know about unified field theory?

“Plumb Tickled To Death!”

Since: Mar 09

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#15 Jan 14, 2013
Reality Bites wrote:
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So, Honest Babe, what do you know about unified field theory?
LOL, very little, nearly nothing actually, and if I read or think about it too very much it gives me a headache. However, I do know the moon is still there whether I am looking at it or not :)

In spite of how little I know about it, for some reason I have a nagging intuition Einstein was right. I think he was far too smart to simply dismiss quantum mechanics and spend 30 years investigating a unified field theory unless he "knew in his gut" he was correct.
Reality Bites

Phoenix, AZ

#16 Jan 14, 2013
Honest Babe wrote:
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LOL, very little, nearly nothing actually, and if I read or think about it too very much it gives me a headache. However, I do know the moon is still there whether I am looking at it or not :)
In spite of how little I know about it, for some reason I have a nagging intuition Einstein was right. I think he was far too smart to simply dismiss quantum mechanics and spend 30 years investigating a unified field theory unless he "knew in his gut" he was correct.
I'm certainly not going to argue with your intuition, Honest Babe.

http://www.amazon.com/Albert-Einstein-Mileva-...

You might enjoy if you haven't already read, but only if you don't think it will give you a headache ;0)
wahoo

Bays, KY

#17 Jan 15, 2013
I was surprised that someone got so upset when I asked if WHAT IF ALMOST EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT ABOUT SCIENCE IS WRONG. I wasn`t trying to tie that into religion actually. But is what I think:TRUE SCIENCE IF INTERPRETED RIGHT AND TRUE RELIGION IS INTERPRETED RIGHT WILL NOT CONFLICT AT ALL. Science is interpreted by men/women, and can be wrong. With as many different beliefs as they are in different churches it seems some of them must be mistaken. Whatever is real is real and men can`t change that.

“Plumb Tickled To Death!”

Since: Mar 09

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#18 Jan 15, 2013
Reality Bites wrote:
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I'm certainly not going to argue with your intuition, Honest Babe.
http://www.amazon.com/Albert-Einstein-Mileva-...
You might enjoy if you haven't already read, but only if you don't think it will give you a headache ;0)
No, no I don't think this will give me a headache, LOL. It looks very interesting. Thanks :)

“Plumb Tickled To Death!”

Since: Mar 09

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#19 Jan 15, 2013
wahoo wrote:
I was surprised that someone got so upset when I asked if WHAT IF ALMOST EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT ABOUT SCIENCE IS WRONG. I wasn`t trying to tie that into religion actually. But is what I think:TRUE SCIENCE IF INTERPRETED RIGHT AND TRUE RELIGION IS INTERPRETED RIGHT WILL NOT CONFLICT AT ALL. Science is interpreted by men/women, and can be wrong. With as many different beliefs as they are in different churches it seems some of them must be mistaken. Whatever is real is real and men can`t change that.
Something else to think about are scientific discoveries which may have been kept secret from the average citizen. Kind of like we know Area 51 exists, but no one seems to know very many details about it or what goes on there.

I am not the type of person who gets all caught up in the various government conspiracy theories; however, I do find some of them interesting and amusing. For example, the Philadelphia Experiment is one of my favorites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Exp...

After all, who knows, simply because something may be widely regarded as a hoax doesn't mean there is no chance there isn't AT LEAST some truth to it.
Starman

Pikeville, KY

#20 Jan 15, 2013
I have a feeling most of you don't even have a clue as to what you are looking at when you gaze up into a clear night sky. The moon, our closest celestial neighbor is 240,000 miles away. Did you know that if you were on the moon you would only weigh 1/6 of your weight on earth. Due to the reduced gravititional force of the moon someone weighing 250 pounds on the earth would only weigh in at about 47 pounds on the moon! Talk about instant weight loss, lol! The neareast star, we call it The Sun, is 93 million miles away. Light zooms along at a speed of about 186,000 miles per second so in one year, or light year as we call it, light travels approximatly 4 trillion miles. That means if the sun were to suddenly stop burning we wouldn't even notice it for nearly 8 minutes. The nearest star beyond our sun is Alpha Centurai and it's about 4.3 light years away, that's over 24 trillion miles! Our home galaxy, The Milky Way Is roughly 14.5 billion years old and about 10,000 light years in diameter. Most of you have seen it on a clear night as a big splotch of light that stretches from horizon to horizon. This splotch of light you are looking at is made up of billions of stars and who knows, perhaps even some planetary systems that may support civilizations that are far more advanced than our own. When you look up at this splotch of light you are actually looking deep into the past because it has taken from hundreds to thousands of years for the light from those stars to travel through the vast distance of space and finally reach your eyes. Our closest neighboring galaxy, Andromeda, can be seen with the naked eye but is much better observed through a telescope. Andromeda is approximatly two million light years away. So If you were somehow able to travel at the speed of light. Remember 186,000 miles per second, that's like zipping all the way around the earth about 7.5 times in one second! Even if you were going that fast it would take you about two million years to reach it. That also means that when you observe Andromeda you are looking at something as it was two million years ago! Some weird things can happen when you begin to travel near the speed of light. Time can slow down and even almost come to a stop for someone who is traveling that fast. Our universe is vast and I'm pretty certian will continue on perfectly without even a hiccup when our fly speck of an existiance as human kind ends within it. I could go on with this but to many it may sound nutty. It is true though and I encourage everyone to try and learn something new each day. Read more and try to be in touch with the things that are around you. When you are on the back porch with your kids at night be able to tell them about the things they are looking at in the sky. Even down by the creek look just a little further than beyond the tip of your nose. Don't dumb them down, learn for yourself and then teach them. There is just so much more out there than you could imagine.

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