Light Needed At Molidor And Route 12
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Change

Arlington Heights, IL

#21 Oct 22, 2012
neighbor wrote:
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Wow is right. Ever think of reducing the speed in the area? It's really not all that difficult. It certainly is not necessary to move or close the intersection. Talk about a waste of funds! There are immediate steps that could be taken to stop the deaths and accidents at this intersection.
1) Reduce the Speed on route 12 to 40 thru that area
2) Install a temporary light
Anything else is a continued waste of taxpayer dollars.
Oh at btw, A 2 year study? You have got to be kidding me.
In the recent fatal accident that occurred there visibility was cited as a contributing factor. Visibility has been cited as a contributing factor in almost all the the accidents there. What that tells us is that there is a fatal flaw in the design and location of the intersection. I do however agree that changing the speed limit would help. I would think that anyone who has driven on Rte 12 during the winter would agree that the road is terrible during snow storms. Adding the light will make it so cars coming over the hill north bound will not be able to see the red light and still have enough time to stop before sliding into anyone who is already stopped.
Change

Arlington Heights, IL

#22 Oct 23, 2012
Its been fun debating with you guys,I guess we will have to wait and see what IDOT someday decides to do. I still wish the government would stop wasting so much of our money and start puting it where it may save some lives. Mystery Man, you bring up some good points and although our opinions differ I respect your method of debate. You provide more than just one or two lines saying "do this or do that" with no real thought or basis for your opinions, you spend time thinking about the issue and I respect that!

Since: Jan 12

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#23 Oct 23, 2012
Change wrote:
<quoted text> Reducing the speed is a good idea. Putting the light up is not a good idea. I won't bother going over the reasons again since it is already written above.
Reducing the speed takes care of the issues you noted. Simple solution.
ugh

Antioch, IL

#24 Oct 23, 2012
Yep, reduce the speed and install a light. I'm guessing "Change" is on the payroll for the big study.
Mystery Man

Winfield, IL

#25 Oct 23, 2012
Change wrote:
Its been fun debating with you guys,I guess we will have to wait and see what IDOT someday decides to do. I still wish the government would stop wasting so much of our money and start puting it where it may save some lives. Mystery Man, you bring up some good points and although our opinions differ I respect your method of debate. You provide more than just one or two lines saying "do this or do that" with no real thought or basis for your opinions, you spend time thinking about the issue and I respect that!
Thank you for the kind words.
I must say its been a real pleasure to debate this issue with you as well.
I post and even created a few threads of my own. Abit some are on the old side now but from time to time they get a reprieve and get brought back up.
I look forward to debating with you again on new issues and old threads.

Unless IDOT reaches a decision this thread has pretty much run its course. But i've been wrong before ( ok that's really rare ) there probably are a few different views still out there. If so post them. New posters and new friends are always welcomed.
Mystery Man

Winfield, IL

#26 Oct 23, 2012
ugh wrote:
Yep, reduce the speed and install a light. I'm guessing "Change" is on the payroll for the big study.
Actually if you had really been following this thread you would have noticed Change is against putting up a light. As well as being critical of the time IDOT has spent on this study.

Somewhere in there you must have an opinion of the situation.
How would you go about fixing what has become a dangerous intersection over the years ?
ugh

United States

#27 Oct 23, 2012
Mystery Man wrote:
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Actually if you had really been following this thread you would have noticed Change is against putting up a light. As well as being critical of the time IDOT has spent on this study.
Somewhere in there you must have an opinion of the situation.
How would you go about fixing what has become a dangerous intersection over the years ?
I have been, have you? Change is against the light but all for re-routing,re-building, re-whatever. Please, give me a break. Reduce speed, install lights and move on to the next killer intersection.
Mystery Man

Schaumburg, IL

#28 Oct 23, 2012
UGH i'm with ya on the reduce speed and add a light.
I've said that from the start.
But CHANGE did support reduce speed. Ya gotta give change credit for that much.

As for where i've been ? Well i would take you with me but you have to be over 21 to get in.
ugh

Antioch, IL

#29 Oct 23, 2012
Mystery Man wrote:
UGH i'm with ya on the reduce speed and add a light.
I've said that from the start.
But CHANGE did support reduce speed. Ya gotta give change credit for that much.
As for where i've been ? Well i would take you with me but you have to be over 21 to get in.
If only I could figure out what exactly you were referring to,("as for where I've been") I would probably respond. As for my age, thanks, I appreciate that.
Change

Arlington Heights, IL

#30 Oct 24, 2012
ugh wrote:
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If only I could figure out what exactly you were referring to,("as for where I've been") I would probably respond. As for my age, thanks, I appreciate that.
I don't work for IDOT and I am all for your ideas regarding the speed. I don't support the light due to the grade of Rte 12, visibility problems, and severe rear end collisions it will create. I talked to someone today who informed me that IDOT is concerned about the the light and has discussed other options. I don't know if that is true,I guess we will have to stay tuned and see the end result. I was present near that intersection while a man took his last breaths and passed away due to a collision. I was holding his cell phone which I had found in the roadway when his wife attempted to call him to find out why he was late coming home. That is how I became aware of the dangers in that area. I am done chatting on this thread but again it has been a pleasure talking to you Mystery Man and the next time we debate I will maintain the spirit of our current debate.
Antiocher

Antioch, IL

#31 Oct 25, 2012
Why is it so difficult to grasp that reducing the speed increases visiblity and reduces the likelihood of rear-end collisions. Put a light up and change the speed. End of story. That's right, it's Illinois. Maybe after their 2 year study they'll put in a roundabout. lol
bennyfish

United States

#32 Mar 18, 2013
Change wrote:
<quoted text> Reducing the speed is a good idea. Putting the light up is not a good idea. I won't bother going over the reasons again since it is already written above.
I got the solution, make Molidor an over pass over 12 with highway style on and off ramps. No lights needed.
bennyfish

United States

#33 Mar 18, 2013
BTW I think Lake County has done a great job with all the HWY improvements this past decade.

BUILD 53
dews

Antioch, IL

#34 Apr 7, 2013
I live about a mile away and have been here 5 years. I believe the light project for 2014/15 includes flattening route 12 so there is no hill.
Antiocher

Antioch, IL

#35 Apr 7, 2013
dews wrote:
I live about a mile away and have been here 5 years. I believe the light project for 2014/15 includes flattening route 12 so there is no hill.
I just wish they would get it done. And why hasn't the speed been reduced thru here until they can start the construction project? More lives will be lost until this is done.
Mystery Man

Gurnee, IL

#36 Apr 8, 2013
Antiocher wrote:
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I just wish they would get it done. And why hasn't the speed been reduced thru here until they can start the construction project? More lives will be lost until this is done.
My guess as to why they don't reduce the speed is its a state project so the state probably sign off on everything.
If so you know how the state is. They're not in any rush.
But it would be nice to drop the speed along here.
MopMan

Mchenry, IL

#37 Sep 29, 2013
Good information guys thanks
Erin

Mokena, IL

#38 Jul 28, 2015
Any more information on this issue?
Nellie

Mchenry, IL

#39 Jul 29, 2015
I have heard work will begin August 2015 and be finished in Summer 2016. Some trees have already been removed.

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