Light Needed At Molidor And Route 12

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soxfanman

Round Lake, IL

#1 Oct 2, 2011
Another person has died at this intersection. How many lives need to be lost, how many serious injuries need to happen before someone decides it is time for a stop light there. I live less than 1 mile from there....I cannot count how many accidents have happened there.
soxfanman

Round Lake, IL

#2 Oct 23, 2011
can we please get a light!?
Resident

United States

#3 Oct 23, 2011
completely agree
this is a horrible intersection
and another tragedy is soon to take place there
dave

Mchenry, IL

#4 Nov 24, 2011
this is no joke we need to call volo and fox lake or who ever is in charge of this intersection. look up pictures on google how many people were airlifted from that intersection. im forced to drive there every day . atleast 8 serious crashes that i have seen. im not talking about fender benders. My dad saw the aftermath of the crash that killed the woman and the dog by the truck. TIME FOR A LIGHT!!!!.
Mystery Man

Fox Lake, IL

#5 Nov 26, 2011
Add me to the list that want a light down there.
I have family in the bone yard and i always have to back track to Wilson road to get back home.
Its about the same distance for me but a lot slower.
Better slower then crashed into by idiots.

Since: Oct 12

Mchenry, IL

#6 Oct 7, 2012
This is now a safety project being funded with Federal resources, through IDOT.  It will be several years before the signals will be in place.
Mystery Man

Naperville, IL

#7 Oct 7, 2012
jda23 thanks for the update.
I just wish it would move along sooner.
Resident

Round Lake, IL

#8 Oct 10, 2012
jda23 wrote:
This is now a safety project being funded with Federal resources, through IDOT.  It will be several years before the signals will be in place.
Yep, I'm sure more lives will be lost while they "study" the project for two years. Ridiculous. How about installing some temporary lights until their "study" is complete. I am sick of our bloated government putting everything except the well being of it's citizens, first.
Change

Elk Grove Village, IL

#9 Oct 13, 2012
The entire intersection of Molidor and 12 needs to be re-routed. The problem with a light will be that north bound traffic on Rte 12 crests a large hill and will be unable to see vehicles stopped on Rte12 at the light. Major rear end collisions will be the result. The intersection needs to me moved or eliminated. This is a very poorly designed intersection. Traffic death statistics are more than statistics, they are human lives with families attached. It is no different then when road crews wait to plow or put down salt in the winter beacause they are trying to conserve money. If just one life is lost because of that delay how much money was that person's life worth?
Mystery Man

Des Plaines, IL

#10 Oct 13, 2012
Change wrote:
The entire intersection of Molidor and 12 needs to be re-routed. The problem with a light will be that north bound traffic on Rte 12 crests a large hill and will be unable to see vehicles stopped on Rte12 at the light. Major rear end collisions will be the result. The intersection needs to me moved or eliminated. This is a very poorly designed intersection. Traffic death statistics are more than statistics, they are human lives with families attached. It is no different then when road crews wait to plow or put down salt in the winter beacause they are trying to conserve money. If just one life is lost because of that delay how much money was that person's life worth?
You are raising two different issue.
No one would argue about adding more plowing and salt in winter except those trying to hold down cost to keep their political jobs.

I seriously doubt they would re-route that road just to give a better view of the road.
The highways are full of blind spots and curves.
Including a lot of them with stop signs and lights.
This will become another one of those.
The more lights you put on a road the slower the traffic becomes.

No road is risk free.
But this intersection really does need a light.
It would be a lot safer with a light.
Volo News

Round Lake, IL

#11 Oct 14, 2012
You can monitor the latest news, weather, road construction, retail developments, etc. for Route 12 and Molidor Rd. and throughtout the Village of Volo, NW Lake County and Northeast McHenry county at http://www.facebook.com/volonews
Mystery Man

Round Lake, IL

#12 Oct 15, 2012
thanks i hope it helps some people.
But i myself don't have a Facebook account ( total lack of friends who are willing to admit they're my friends - ok ok truth is i don't have any friends )
Change

Elk Grove Village, IL

#13 Oct 17, 2012
Mystery Man wrote:
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You are raising two different issue.
No one would argue about adding more plowing and salt in winter except those trying to hold down cost to keep their political jobs.
I seriously doubt they would re-route that road just to give a better view of the road.
The highways are full of blind spots and curves.
Including a lot of them with stop signs and lights.
This will become another one of those.
The more lights you put on a road the slower the traffic becomes.
No road is risk free.
But this intersection really does need a light.
It would be a lot safer with a light.
The intersection will NOT be safer with just a stop light. Traffic heading north bound will not be able to see the vehicles that are stopped at the red light until it is too late for them to stop! It will be far worse in the winter when Rte12 turns into a skating rink.
Just because there are plenty of other deadly areas on our highways doesn't mean we toss up a stop light and the problem will go away. Put some thought into what you write! The intersect needs to be moved or closed. My point of bringing up the salt issue is that MONEY shouldn't dictate how many people have to die on our roads. The government throws enough of our money away on things we will never benefit from, use some to save some lives! Everything I wrote went right over your head!
Mystery Man

Wheaton, IL

#14 Oct 18, 2012
WOW that kinda personal.
I know i'm only 5'6'' but to say EVERYTHING went right over my head ?
Lets keep this real and about the issues otherwise all you do is lose your credibility.

Money has to be an issue whether we like it or not. There is just so much money and then that's it.
Its about making the best choices with the money that is available.

There is more we can do such as lower the speed limits. Hand out more speeding tickets.
Post a sign that a traffic light is coming up.

But what shouldn't be done is close off roads. If there is anything we do need is MORE roads not less.

Roads have blind spots. Its just a fact of driving. We can't just go around closing roads just because we can't see around the next curve.

But thanks for your opinions. I value honest input on issues.
Change

Elk Grove Village, IL

#15 Oct 18, 2012
Mystery Man wrote:
WOW that kinda personal.
I know i'm only 5'6'' but to say EVERYTHING went right over my head ?
Lets keep this real and about the issues otherwise all you do is lose your credibility.
Money has to be an issue whether we like it or not. There is just so much money and then that's it.
Its about making the best choices with the money that is available.
There is more we can do such as lower the speed limits. Hand out more speeding tickets.
Post a sign that a traffic light is coming up.
But what shouldn't be done is close off roads. If there is anything we do need is MORE roads not less.

But thanks for your opinions. I value honest input on issues.
I agree with the spirit of your message and I understand where you are coming from but sometimes bad designs can only be addressed by changing them. There are many examples in Lake County where they realized the disign was fataly flawed and they changed it. Rollins Rd. at Wilson, The old Bacon Rd. at Rte60 (a deadly intersection!), The 120 bypass in Volo, and many many more.

The answer isn't always to add more roads it often is to make better use of the roads you already have. This morning I watched the intersection of Molidor and Rte12 during the morning rush hour (aprox 6am) I sat there on Sullivan Lake Rd. for aprox 15 minutes and observed that 3 cars came from Molidor onto 12, while countless cars went north bound on 12. To endanger hundreds of motorists for a stop light to help 3 motorists does not make sense. The Illinois Department of Transportation does studies and traffic counts endlessly in an effort to identify troubled intersections and come up with solutions. There is an open field directly north of the intersection that could have a frontage built into it to route the traffic on Molidor north enough to move the intersection. It would move it far enough where a light would then be pratical. It is an absolute fact that the government constantly waists our money, I would much rather they had invested some of the money in saving the life of the woman and her dog who just recently died there. When the government stops waisting our tax money I will listen to their financial excuses for not saving lives.
Otherwise they can close this lightly used intersection and route the traffic onto other existing roads. That would work too. When these traffic studies are conducted I wonder what dollar value they put on human lives? Is each life worth $100,000? What is the price in human lives where it becomes worth it to fix a problem that is verified to exist? Sometimes people drive like idiots and it's their own fault, but if you know the road design is at fault then change it. If that woman had been the wife of a politician I bet the intersection would have been changed and named in her honor. Isn't your wife worth just as much? Stop accepting excuses and demand more from your government, you deserve it, your lives are worth it!
Mystery Man

Wheaton, IL

#16 Oct 19, 2012
I'm impressed by your suggestion of adding a frontage road along there.
I like frontage roads. I've used several frontage roads not just to ease on and off major roads but also to get my bearings in unfamiliar areas.

I respectfully disagree with your suggestive opinion that Molidor and RT12 is not a busy intersection.
That road is home to numerous Village and Township buildings as well as the graveyard.

On a personal level i have two family members buried in that grave yard. So i do visit down that road on occasion. Never once have I ever been the lone driver. I can take Wilson road back home instead of RT12 but that would be longer. And i usually time those visits to also shop along RT12 many fine stores.

I to have seen IDOT doing surveys along RT12. I wonder if there is a way to ever see what the results of their survey suggests. Taxpayers should have more input about the road changes in their areas.
neighbor

Round Lake, IL

#17 Oct 19, 2012
Change wrote:
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The intersection will NOT be safer with just a stop light. Traffic heading north bound will not be able to see the vehicles that are stopped at the red light until it is too late for them to stop! It will be far worse in the winter when Rte12 turns into a skating rink.
Just because there are plenty of other deadly areas on our highways doesn't mean we toss up a stop light and the problem will go away. Put some thought into what you write! The intersect needs to be moved or closed. My point of bringing up the salt issue is that MONEY shouldn't dictate how many people have to die on our roads. The government throws enough of our money away on things we will never benefit from, use some to save some lives! Everything I wrote went right over your head!
Wow is right. Ever think of reducing the speed in the area? It's really not all that difficult. It certainly is not necessary to move or close the intersection. Talk about a waste of funds! There are immediate steps that could be taken to stop the deaths and accidents at this intersection.
1) Reduce the Speed on route 12 to 40 thru that area
2) Install a temporary light

Anything else is a continued waste of taxpayer dollars.

Oh at btw, A 2 year study? You have got to be kidding me.
Mystery Man

Wheaton, IL

#18 Oct 19, 2012
LOL the wow was for the personal part. But thanks for agreeing with me.
Yeah i would like to see a report from IDOT to know why its taking them 2 yrs too.
There is no way they are going to close the road.
But they're is always a possibility of widening it or changing the landscape to give a better view.
But the only real way to improve it is to cut down the speed and put a light in.
Both are cheap, both are known to work, and both can be done quickly.
Too bad its taking IDOT 2 years to figure out what we can in a day.
ugh

Round Lake, IL

#19 Oct 20, 2012
Change wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with the spirit of your message and I understand where you are coming from but sometimes bad designs can only be addressed by changing them. There are many examples in Lake County where they realized the disign was fataly flawed and they changed it. Rollins Rd. at Wilson, The old Bacon Rd. at Rte60 (a deadly intersection!), The 120 bypass in Volo, and many many more.
The answer isn't always to add more roads it often is to make better use of the roads you already have. This morning I watched the intersection of Molidor and Rte12 during the morning rush hour (aprox 6am) I sat there on Sullivan Lake Rd. for aprox 15 minutes and observed that 3 cars came from Molidor onto 12, while countless cars went north bound on 12. To endanger hundreds of motorists for a stop light to help 3 motorists does not make sense. The Illinois Department of Transportation does studies and traffic counts endlessly in an effort to identify troubled intersections and come up with solutions. There is an open field directly north of the intersection that could have a frontage built into it to route the traffic on Molidor north enough to move the intersection. It would move it far enough where a light would then be pratical. It is an absolute fact that the government constantly waists our money, I would much rather they had invested some of the money in saving the life of the woman and her dog who just recently died there. When the government stops waisting our tax money I will listen to their financial excuses for not saving lives.
Otherwise they can close this lightly used intersection and route the traffic onto other existing roads. That would work too. When these traffic studies are conducted I wonder what dollar value they put on human lives? Is each life worth $100,000? What is the price in human lives where it becomes worth it to fix a problem that is verified to exist? Sometimes people drive like idiots and it's their own fault, but if you know the road design is at fault then change it. If that woman had been the wife of a politician I bet the intersection would have been changed and named in her honor. Isn't your wife worth just as much? Stop accepting excuses and demand more from your government, you deserve it, your lives are worth it!
No need to re-route, re-design or redo anything. REDUCE THE SPEED THRU THIS AREA and install a traffic signal. Why the heck is this so difficult? Oh, I forgot, I live in Illinois. We have to spend a couple of million to figure out what a five year old could tell us in a minute.
Change

Elk Grove Village, IL

#20 Oct 22, 2012
ugh wrote:
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No need to re-route, re-design or redo anything. REDUCE THE SPEED THRU THIS AREA and install a traffic signal. Why the heck is this so difficult? Oh, I forgot, I live in Illinois. We have to spend a couple of million to figure out what a five year old could tell us in a minute.
Reducing the speed is a good idea. Putting the light up is not a good idea. I won't bother going over the reasons again since it is already written above.

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