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toanswerthequest ion

Melrose Park, IL

#102 Feb 17, 2012
News Reader 2011 wrote:
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So in other words, those of us who are already raising our children to be good people should take on the task of raising yours too?
You don't have to spend money to be a good parent. You don't have to attend "programs." My kids have chores and responsibilities at home. Which they are held accountable to do. Then they can go hang with their friends. I know all of their friends parents. If a friends parent isn't a real *parent*(ie, involved in their childs life), then my kid no longer gets to hang there. All of us look out for each others kids. We know where ours kids are, and where they are not supposed to be. Because all of us make the effort to be watching.
On the weekends, we bike ride, play tennis, walk our dog in the woods, look for free concerts and other events to attend... sometimes just me and my kids, many times with friends. We go to the library - check out how many great programs they have, if anything they are under $5. And yes, I work full time, most weeks more than full time.
Parent your children. Make them feel wanted and appreciated. Raise them right and they'll most likely be good kids. I do that for mine. I seek out others who feel the same way. Betcha anything most gangbanger's parents don't.
This is some of the reason why our youth are running parts of the neighborhoods now. Because people feel as though if they say something to a kid who is out here doing wrong they are helping raise some other persons kid, and that's not true, but if you see one of your kids associates or one of your associates kids doing something you will say something then. You look out only for the people you know. So, you shouldn't complain when the neighborhood kids start to take to gangs. Its good that your children are small enough for you to spend time with them in that way, but as they get older they will start to want to spend more time with their friends, right now you have that control and hopefully they will follow the path that you have set for them, but not all kids are as fortunate as yours and it has nothing to do with bad parenting in majority of the cases. Single parent homes are mostly effected by this because the parent have to work sometimes 2 jobs just to make ends meet and im sure that they spent time with their kids as well and set a positive path to follow. Im a true beleiver in" IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD" believe me, we (my neighbors and I) don't hesitate to say something when we see these kids out here doing something wrong and maybe that's why my neighborhood is as safe as it is.
toanswerthequest ion

Melrose Park, IL

#103 Feb 17, 2012
News Reader 2011 wrote:
<quoted text>
So in other words, those of us who are already raising our children to be good people should take on the task of raising yours too?
You don't have to spend money to be a good parent. You don't have to attend "programs." My kids have chores and responsibilities at home. Which they are held accountable to do. Then they can go hang with their friends. I know all of their friends parents. If a friends parent isn't a real *parent*(ie, involved in their childs life), then my kid no longer gets to hang there. All of us look out for each others kids. We know where ours kids are, and where they are not supposed to be. Because all of us make the effort to be watching.
On the weekends, we bike ride, play tennis, walk our dog in the woods, look for free concerts and other events to attend... sometimes just me and my kids, many times with friends. We go to the library - check out how many great programs they have, if anything they are under $5. And yes, I work full time, most weeks more than full time.
Parent your children. Make them feel wanted and appreciated. Raise them right and they'll most likely be good kids. I do that for mine. I seek out others who feel the same way. Betcha anything most gangbanger's parents don't.
And another thing, I never said in order for you to be a good parent you have to spend money or be involved in a program. What do your children do in the summer time, when your at work full time sometimes more than that? Single parents who are trying to raise their kids and keep them out of the streets do need affordable programs for their kids such as spartans the lil football league they have during the summer and its pretty expensive to put your child in there and most likely these parents have more than one kids so what if they can't afford it. People don't become gangbangers because they weren't loved as a child or because they parents didn't spend time with them, or because they didn't get chores, ride their bikes with their dad, go to the library, they become gangbangers because they don't have anything positive to do with their time, they become bored so they take to the streets were they think the action is. I know a young man whose mom cry every nite over his choice to join a gang and believe me this young man comes from a beautiful and supportive family, the only problem was she didnt have the money to pay for the after school programs leaving him to take to the streets while she was at work, so the fact that you could say gangbangers have parents that don't appreciate them or make them feel wanted is false.

Since: Oct 11

Antioch, IL

#104 Feb 17, 2012
ion, you have your opinion and I have mine. Neither is better than the others'. To correct a couple of your false assumptions, my kids are 14 & 16. Not little kids. I am a single parent. The YMCA has a great summer camp program that's pretty affordable and I think offers financial aid to those who need it, I've never explored it any further. Antioch has a very affordable summer camp, with extended hours available. Thankfully my two are close in age and get along well, they can hang at home during the day in summer, or go places in town together - they've earned my trust and I know they are where they say they are.

You contradict yourself in this sentence - "People don't become gangbangers because they weren't loved as a child or because they parents didn't spend time with them, or because they didn't get chores, ride their bikes with their dad, go to the library, they become gangbangers because they don't have anything positive to do with their time, they become bored so they take to the streets were they think the action is." All of the things you list ARE positive things to do with their time. I firmly believe that if a parent makes the time and effort to plan out plenty of interesting things for their kids to do, and that the kids know that not only do they have the support of their parents and neighbors, but that those same people are watching as well, it gives them a reason to stay on the right track, or an excuse when the wrong track comes calling.

I know every neighbor on my block, and the 2 connecting streets. We all know who lives here and who doesn't. We don't hesitate to show anyone, kid or adult, acting wrongly that we are ALL watching, and won't tolerate any s hit in our neighborhood. I chose this block for a reason, and deliberately bought a very small house so I could afford to be there.

It's exhausting being an involved parent. Plenty of nights I get home and just want to collapse and not think about researching and planning activities for the next week. But ya know what, when they are grown and on their own, I will rest.

Am I obsessive and controlling - yeah, probably. But you and I have at least one thing in common - we agree that if more people paid attention to kids, and called them out when they are wrong, the world would be a better place.

Sorry to go one so long, but I'm really passionate about this. I meet way too many kids whose parents could give two sh its about them. Those are generally the kids with the most problems. Nothing ticks me off more than people who have children but don't want to put the effort into raising them. Have your party when they are grown, people. Lead by example. Be a parent NOW.
Mystery Man

Ingleside, IL

#105 Feb 17, 2012
I have to agree with News Reader 2011 on this one.
Don't look shocked Reader.

But seriously i too have had a similar experiences raising my kid.
I too was and still am a single parent. Kid now grown and gone.
I went with YMCA because they had a great cheap family plan.
My kid played in the band at Grant.
Played in Lakes Area Band in Antioch
Sang in the church choir.
Played hockey, golf, bowled, baseball.
Took up photgraphy, computers, etc.
Earned a license at 15 1/2 and drove her own car.
And was active in church.

And she never did drugs, drank, committed a crime or hung out with gangbangers.
She sure wasn't perfect.
And i had my share of fights with her. Still do.
I didn't hold two jobs just one job with 50+ hours.
Money was tight so we looked for cheap fun.
It does take strong family values to keep kids striaght.
It does take neighbors who care enough to tell you and your kids if they see a problem.
And having a christian background really helps.

Will it all always work ? NO sadly some kids will turn out bad no matter what a parent does.
But loving your kid and providing as much good items in their lives does give a kid the best shot at having a good life.

Since: Oct 11

Antioch, IL

#106 Feb 17, 2012
And I agree with you on this one, Mystery Man.
toanswerthequest ion

Melrose Park, IL

#107 Feb 17, 2012
News Reader 2011 wrote:
And I agree with you on this one, Mystery Man.
You agree that the neighbors watch out for the children in your neighborhood and either stops them from doing something wrong, or tells the parent, and fyi the ymca offers camp program but it doesn't last the summer and ext time is only til 2pm in most cases. The list to even get your child in the camp program is crazy, they only take a few kids at a time. How is it the im contradicting myself when you just repeated what I've been saying all along. Keep in mind that some of these single parents don't have a choice but to work 2,3 jobs to make ends meet and can't give the extra time they would like to give to their kids. What would the complaint be then? Let me guess, that parent is abusing the system and sitting on her lazy tale collecting money from the state...no win situation
Pootow

Round Lake, IL

#108 Feb 20, 2012
Gaylords712? No dejes que te la captura solo en Fox Lake
Street Dude

Mchenry, IL

#109 Feb 20, 2012
Time to play nice Pootow. If you want to get spunky irritated go hang out at Grand and Forest. That's 'his' turf. He might actually be there today as schools are closed.

Since: Oct 11

Antioch, IL

#111 Feb 21, 2012
toanswerthequestion wrote:
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You agree that the neighbors watch out for the children in your neighborhood and either stops them from doing something wrong, or tells the parent, and fyi the ymca offers camp program but it doesn't last the summer and ext time is only til 2pm in most cases. The list to even get your child in the camp program is crazy, they only take a few kids at a time. How is it the im contradicting myself when you just repeated what I've been saying all along. Keep in mind that some of these single parents don't have a choice but to work 2,3 jobs to make ends meet and can't give the extra time they would like to give to their kids. What would the complaint be then? Let me guess, that parent is abusing the system and sitting on her lazy tale collecting money from the state...no win situation
I give up. It's impossible to have any sort of debate or conversation with you.
toanswerthequest ion

Melrose Park, IL

#112 Feb 21, 2012
News Reader 2011 wrote:
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I give up. It's impossible to have any sort of debate or conversation with you.
Why do you feel that way? Is it because you repeated what i said and have been saying. If you go back and read what i posted you will see that you repeated what i said, just in diffrent wording.
you don't have to debate or have a conversation with me, my feelings are not hurt at all
North West

Waukegan, IL

#113 Feb 24, 2012
Deport The mexicans !
RL resident

Chicago, IL

#114 Feb 27, 2012
U can't stop gangs, Illinois has the 2nd biggest gang problem in the US...there will always be more gangs no matter what...all u can do is be a good parent teach ur children well and protect you and yours...thats the bottom line.
GLN

Mundelein, IL

#115 Mar 12, 2012
^^^^^^^LOL you people are nuts!!! Dood says his daughter doesnt drink or smoke, but I guarantee her ass in knocked up LOL.
Street Dude

Mchenry, IL

#116 Mar 12, 2012
Knocked up isn't drinking or smoking........what's your point, GLN?
GLN

Mundelein, IL

#117 Mar 13, 2012
My point is I can describe all the parents commenting on this forum in one word...... NAIVE!
whatsup

United States

#118 Mar 13, 2012
GLN wrote:
My point is I can describe all the parents commenting on this forum in one word...... NAIVE!
Yep, another bada*&% gangbanger posting on topix, that's what all the tough gangbangers do
get a life

Since: Oct 11

Antioch, IL

#119 Mar 14, 2012
GLN wrote:
My point is I can describe all the parents commenting on this forum in one word...... NAIVE!
Nope. Old man did 2 years in county. I grew up on the streets of Chicago. Not naive. Listened carefully to the stories of those around me who lived with drama/trouble. Making sure to do whatever I can to make my kids feel loved, and keep them occupied and focused.
gun man

Fox Lake, IL

#120 Jan 6, 2013
shoot em!

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