Acton firefighter charged in fatal cr...

Acton firefighter charged in fatal crash - Sentinel & Enterprise

There are 76 comments on the Sentinel & Enterprise story from Mar 7, 2009, titled Acton firefighter charged in fatal crash - Sentinel & Enterprise. In it, Sentinel & Enterprise reports that:

Westminster Police on Friday arrested an Acton firefighter, alleging he was driving drunk during an SUV crash that killed a fellow firefighter.

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No Brainer

United States

#65 Mar 13, 2009
In Tears wrote:
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Once again-HEARTLESS CRUEL INSENSITIVE AND IGNORANT. YOU SIR-ARE THE LOWEST OF THE LOW. A HEARTFELT REQUEST FOR YOU TO STOP AND YOU CONTINUE IN ANONYMITY. HOW BRAVE. I FOR ONE WILL LEAVE THIS THREAD AND WILL CERTAINLY NOT GIVE YOU ANY MORE OF THE TWISTED SATISFACTION YOU SEEK FROM SPOUTING OFF YOUR NAUSEATING COMMENTS OF THINGS YOU CLEARLY HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING. LEO WAS A TRUE FRIEND TO EVERY PERSON AND NEVER ONCE LOOKED FOR GLORY OR PRAISE AND THAT SIR, THAT IS WHY HE DESERVED HIS HONORABLE FUNERAL AND IS DESERVING OF PEACE,LOVE, AND RESPECT. HE TOUCHED SO MANY LIVES AND THERE IS A HOLE IN THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO KNEW HIM. WHAT YOU WROTE IS BITTER, ANGRY, AND SELF RIGHTEOUS AND NOT DESERVING OF ANY MORE ATTENTION. COME OUT FROM YOUR ANONYMOUS POSTS AND MEET ME FOR COFFEE AND I WILL TELL YOU ALL ABOUT WHAT KIND OF HUMAN BEING LEO WAS. WHAT KIND OF BEAUTIFUL, LOVING, SWEET, CARING PERSON HE WAS WHO JUST HAPPENED TO BE A FIREFIGHTER-THE ONLY JOB SUITABLE FOR SOMEONE SO SELFLESS. MAYBE THEN YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THE NEEDLESS ADDITIONAL PAIN YOU INFLICT ON THOSE OF US LEFT BEHIND.
*sigh*

All we hear is praise me, praise me,praise me, oops we killed someone, praise me, praise me, praise me...
In Tears

Lowell, MA

#66 Mar 13, 2009
No Brainer wrote:
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*sigh*
All we hear is praise me, praise me,praise me, oops we killed someone, praise me, praise me, praise me...
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR HATEFUL PATHETIC SOUL.
REAL DEAL

Boston, MA

#67 Mar 13, 2009
Tired of Clowns wrote:
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Amen, my friend. It's been fun yanking their chains for awhile, but their one note song is kinda monotonous. It is nice to see that one of them at least knows the beginning of their ABC's, though. I see, too that one of them is now resorting to making up trivia to support his rant as well.
I guess they haven't noticed that no one else is jumping on their little bandwagon, even though I've been jerking them along for a couple days now.
They're sorta like the couple of crazies in the park, preaching from the park bench. Everyone glances for a minute, shakes their head and walks away as fast as they can.
I'm siging off now, never to return here. I follow alot of the local paper forums. Of all of them, I've never found so many miserable, hateful people as are concentrated here. It's like the S&E attracts them. For the decent folk that follow these threads, you have my sympathies. You're keeping all the Trolls away from every other forum in the region.
Rest in Peace, Leo
Clown keeps saying that only 3 people, including me, share my opinion and post about it. Apparently; he is so myopic; that he didn't notice that there are only three people posting on his side; who share is opinion; including him.

Yes, No Brainer; I agree with you. These guys have placed themselves on pedestals. They clearly think that the rank of cop or Firefighter is more special than any other job. They think that everyone should look the other way when the screw up; including breaking the law. They think that if they do get got; no one should press the issue. They think that their penalties should be less than everyone elses. And, it is very clear, that some of them do not hold a whole lot of respect for the legal system; that is in place to protect the citizens from them when they beat people up; frame people; or shoot someone who is already properly restrained.

I am not the least bit surprised by them. I have a very accurate read on what they are all about. I think it is important for the Readers of Topix Forum to hear 2 sides of a story; instead of just the rah, rah we are all heroes side.....

I cannot make any of these points in person with them; I would be framed and charged with disorderly conduct..........
How Would You Feel

Salem, NH

#68 Mar 17, 2009
If a civilian came around a corner on the wrong side of the road after leaving a party and slammed head on into Jim's car, how would you feel about that person? How would the cops have treated the driver?

The "brotherhood" has two sets of rules, not all cops are bad, some are actually really great, the only difference is the great cop would have arrested Jim on the spot for drunk driving and vehicular manslaughter. My father was a Chief Of Police and for quite a long time he was also a Prosecutor. Anyone who is related to a cop knows there are two sets of rules. The difference is, my father would have locked me up and thrown away the key if I did something like Jim did. Most cops would have made a few phone calls and tried to get their daughter or son out of trouble on the spot.

My dad would only hang out with other cops, he was a cop 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year and he was a damn good one. Growing up, I would hear other cops talking to my father and all I could think of was, "what a piece of garbage this guy is" and thankfully, I never had to say it, my dad would always say it for me! I never once even saw my father drink a beer, let alone get in a car and drive home one of his peers.

My dad was a hero, Jim isn't even close.
REAL DEAL

Boston, MA

#69 Mar 18, 2009
How Would You Feel wrote:
If a civilian came around a corner on the wrong side of the road after leaving a party and slammed head on into Jim's car, how would you feel about that person? How would the cops have treated the driver?
The "brotherhood" has two sets of rules, not all cops are bad, some are actually really great, the only difference is the great cop would have arrested Jim on the spot for drunk driving and vehicular manslaughter. My father was a Chief Of Police and for quite a long time he was also a Prosecutor. Anyone who is related to a cop knows there are two sets of rules. The difference is, my father would have locked me up and thrown away the key if I did something like Jim did. Most cops would have made a few phone calls and tried to get their daughter or son out of trouble on the spot.
My dad would only hang out with other cops, he was a cop 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year and he was a damn good one. Growing up, I would hear other cops talking to my father and all I could think of was, "what a piece of garbage this guy is" and thankfully, I never had to say it, my dad would always say it for me! I never once even saw my father drink a beer, let alone get in a car and drive home one of his peers.
My dad was a hero, Jim isn't even close.
Well said! I agree with you; there are some good cops out there. If you say your father was a stand up guy; who walked the line; I believe you.

It must be very tough for the cops who are 100% honest; to have the reputation of the cops dragged down by the continual crap by the cops who are not 100% honest.

Anyone who wants to read about two sides of this good cop / bad cop story should go to officer.com . Click on news and then go into the archive to read some assorted stories. There are about 6 or 8 new stories about cops all over the U.S. posted on here everyday. Most of the stories are not about bad cops; but you will be surprised to see how many are about bad cops.

A Chief of Police who stole $4000.00 out of donation fund for children in Connecticut. Cops who are mob informants; cops who are accused of raping females while on duty; sometimes in their cruisers. Cops (many) who have sex with underage girls. Cops who steal drugs from evidence rooms. Cops who use drugs and cops who deal drugs. Cops who get caught for DUI and assault the cop trying to arrest them. Any crime that you can imagine; you can read about a cop doing the same. Are they all bad? Of course not.

And; these are the crimes that have not been swept under the rug by the cops themselves; as is the usual practice. Why do they typically sweep this stuff under the rug? Basically, for three reasons:

1) To save the reputation of cops in general and to avoid any negative press; which always stirs up the public.

2) Cops like to save a fellow cops job. They look out for each other; and they like to think that "this guy is a good cop, he just made a mistake".

3) Many of them are using the favor system to their advantage (and the advantage of their friends and families). So, they do a fellow cop a favor and look the other way, or throw away a ticket from a surrounding town. They figure that at some point, they will need the favor returned when they (or their friends and families) break the law or get a traffic citation.

Many cops assume that they are above the law. The laws are for everyone else to follow; but not them. Do all of them work this way? No! Does a high percentage of them work this way. I say yes!

REAL DEAL
No Brainer

United States

#70 Mar 18, 2009
How Would You Feel wrote:
If a civilian came around a corner on the wrong side of the road after leaving a party and slammed head on into Jim's car, how would you feel about that person? How would the cops have treated the driver?
The "brotherhood" has two sets of rules, not all cops are bad, some are actually really great, the only difference is the great cop would have arrested Jim on the spot for drunk driving and vehicular manslaughter. My father was a Chief Of Police and for quite a long time he was also a Prosecutor. Anyone who is related to a cop knows there are two sets of rules. The difference is, my father would have locked me up and thrown away the key if I did something like Jim did. Most cops would have made a few phone calls and tried to get their daughter or son out of trouble on the spot.
My dad would only hang out with other cops, he was a cop 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year and he was a damn good one. Growing up, I would hear other cops talking to my father and all I could think of was, "what a piece of garbage this guy is" and thankfully, I never had to say it, my dad would always say it for me! I never once even saw my father drink a beer, let alone get in a car and drive home one of his peers.
My dad was a hero, Jim isn't even close.
What a loving, responsible affect your father's ethics had on your upbringing and adult choices in life.

See, this is it. THIS is the choice we are all faced with, repeatedly, in life. Crossroads, if you will.

DO the right thing for ALL, or do the narcissistic thing for yourself, and yours. If you choose the latter, then you FORFEIT the right to blindly defend your 'brotherhood' club regardless of what they choose to do, and how they choose to affect the 'reputation' of your group.

Don't ever be so blind and self-centered as to think that your so called needs are more important as the protection, safety, and support of the masses.

It's all a choice, my friends. An important, self-defining choice.

What's yours?
william gunther

Middleville, NY

#71 Mar 24, 2009

all cops are SCUMBAG CRIMINALS with badges !!!
concerned

Boston, MA

#72 Feb 23, 2010
One year has passed without any criminal penalty.
What type of justice is this.It is the distorted brotherhod of police and fireman equity.To add insult to injury,another drunken event will be held 2/25/10 Mt. Wachusett
concerned

Boston, MA

#73 Feb 23, 2010
On 2/25/10 another drunken debacle will be held at Mt. Wachusett.Since the death one year,his brother firefighter has not be brought to trial. Let the DA
explain this delay.Very simply, it is the brotherhood in operation.What a sham.
fitchburg

Fitchburg, MA

#74 Feb 23, 2010
interesting
Bro

AOL

#75 Feb 23, 2010
Just to set the record straight here:

The person in question is still awaiting trial as far as I know. That's the speed of the criminal justice system, sadly. Take note of how many similar incidents take a year or more before the defendant is finally sentenced.

I do know he has not worked a day as a firefighter since that incident. He has been on leave without pay.

As far as I am aware, the only reason he has not been terminated is that for legalities, the town is waiting until he is convicted. That way, there is no question of wrongful termination in the event he is found not guilty.(This is MA after all. Stranger things happen all the time..)

Knowing several of the firefighters who worked with him and Leo, they will be glad to see him gone for good.
I'm pretty confident that if things were left strictly to the "brotherhood", justice would have been served along time ago...

The "drunken debacle" you refer to is a fund raiser for MDA, which has been held for several years, without incident I might add. Don't penalize a good thing because of the actions of one fool.
fitchburg

Fitchburg, MA

#76 Feb 23, 2010
still stinks like a typical cop/fireman walk
Bro

Hudson, MA

#77 Feb 23, 2010
Believe what you want. There weren't many of his co-workers jumping to his defense. Most would just as soon see him swing... Sadly, the court system doesn't move fast for anyone anymore. The old "swift and speedy trial" is a thing of the past.
Firefighter

Westminster, MA

#78 Feb 24, 2010
Those who believe nothing has been done are wrong. The Acton Firefighter has been charged(a few months back) and sentenced. The family of Leo was at the sentencing to support Jim. I am not sure of the details but I know for a fact that this has been done for a while, so please put away you right wing conspiracy theories and let us remember Leo as we approach the one year anniversay.
Firefighter

Westminster, MA

#80 Feb 24, 2010
Bill Clinton wrote:
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And what, exactly, makes any of this a right wing consipracy theory? Wow us with your knowledge, donkey boy.
Those who claim nothing has been done because he was a Firefighter, we are like anyone else and are treated as such. Some of these posters believed that because he was a Firefighter, he would walk. He didn't walk, no reason to call people names, all I was doing was trying to clarify. It was all kept quiet because that is what Leo's family wanted.
AMANDA LASSMAN

Malone, NY

#81 Sep 10, 2015
Tired of Clowns wrote:
Do people that have conversations with you walk away shaking their head alot??? Just curious. I suspect it's because you can't listen to anything but the sound of your own voice.
I never once spoke about the men involved in the accident. I spoke about all the other public safety people out there who do things the right way, and whether you knew the first thing about them.
Some of the "comments" you refer to I never even spoke about, which is clearly shown in the posts. Blustering and using big words won't change that.
Since you barely even acknowledge my comments about public safety people in general (which was my whole point), I'm left to assume what I have suspected all along. You are just a pompous jerk who has issues with anyone wearing a badge or in authority. Did you used to yell "Stick it to the Man" way back when???
Hey, the 60's called. They want their stuff back.
TIRED OF CLOWNS..... SHUT UP YOU MORON ! YOU BABBLE YOU RETARD....JUST SHUT THE F*5K UP !!!

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