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#21 Aug 10, 2013
wonder wrote:
Can anyone prove god is real through FACTS? Please don't answer with "prove he isn't" that isn't the question! Also no bible quotes only FACTS!
I have asked this same question many time and almost the same way... but I have yet to get a believable answer.

You know why? Because there is NO God!!! They can't prove what doesn't exist.

It's like saying... God is in this box and you have to have faith and believe it is so... but when they open the box, there is nothing in it... but they still say believe and have faith in something they can't prove.

I would just as soon believe in the yellow eyed monkey that lives on the dark side of the moon in a cave. Can't prove that either?
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#22 Aug 10, 2013
lol u r ryte It's a ludicrous proposition. If all scientific knowledge was deleted, it would still be discovered, just in different forms. Religion... Consstantine made up most of it in 325 AD.
saved

Ashburn, VA

#23 Aug 10, 2013
i will give you another example.GOD is holy,and when people sin a blood sacrifice is required,one that is perfect,without sin.before JESUS came,in the old testament,there were none to be found who were perfect,so animals were used who were without blemish. When GODS son came,JESUS(the new testament)who was perfect,he loved us so much that he gave himself as a sacrifice for our sins,thus doing away with the sacrifices that you hear of in the old testament.those sacrifices were important,but JESUS did away with them with his ultimate sacrifice.the old is very important because it points us directly to JESUS in the new testament
saved

Ashburn, VA

#24 Aug 10, 2013
(not from here) i would love for you to prove that he doesnt exist. You know how we believe that creation was started. Im curious,tell me how this earth and humans came into existance,with FACTS.
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#25 Aug 10, 2013
That's interesting, with Jesus stopping the blood sacrifices... there's a preacher that talked about the lynchings in the South as being lots of lil Jesus's, since they gave their blood, for being the wrong color.

I can prove to you that God does not exist. Look around you. Do you see him? Do you hear him? Do you taste him? Do you feel him? Do you smell him? If you cannot perceive her (or him?), then, wtf are you talking about?

But your proposition is backwards. If I alleged that Major Benjamin F. Graves murdered Indians in Kentucky, and then was murdered by Indians himself, at the Battle of Frenchtown, in Little Turtle's War, then it would be up to me to prove this to you. I can show you links where the same information is printed up, and academia says several sources = the truth. A full analysis would require primary sources, etc. But just knowing how slim my understanding of what happened with Major Benjamin F. Graves, I still have more evidence that a Ben Graves did in fact exist, than you do for your proposition. But I would ask you to prove that Benjamin F. Graves did not exist, but that would be silly. I made the claim he existed, it is up to me to prove that he was real. If I cannot provide the burden of proof, then to ask you to disprove something that I claim... it's backwards. I once read that the Allegewi were the original Indians in Kentucky, but I have no sources for this... is this true? You do not believe the Allegewi were the first Kentuckians? Then prove it! No no no... this is backwards. I do not know if Allegewi ever existed, I am sure Benjamin F. Graves lived, and I am still sure that there is not an invisible man in the sky staring and watching and judging all of us. There's more evidence for Allegewi than there is for God. Should I just have faith that Allegewi were real ? I want more information. An old Delaware legend could be right... or maybe it's not.
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#27 Aug 10, 2013
Yes. I do. I do not know how it all started. And I will not pretend like I do either. Maybe God ordered the Big Bang and Evolution. Maybe this... maybe that...

I do not even know the origins of Kentucky and Louisville that well. Yes, the Bible is a historical text, but you must understand why such a simple explanation of the world was given. It answers really hard questions with children's answers. Where did we come from? A big man in the sky. How did he do it? He clapped his hands. How come God still needed a rib, after he made the entire universe ?

I love all those who are like Jesus. Humble. Simple. Good. I will be like Jesus, and if God dont like it, he/she can go fkkk him/herself. How we behave here on Earth is the most important thing ever, and acting like a blind belief in the Fairy Godmother, or Santa Clause, or Tooth Fairy, may just turn out to be... false.
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#29 Aug 10, 2013
No worries. I said you wouldn't convince me on the God front, so usually, talking about things you have in common, like our common admiration for Jesus... that makes for a better, more fruitful, and grounded discussion. Being a good person... what entails what a good person is... how this effects our lives.

For instance. Say Christians want to end poverty, and so do the Atheists. Couldn't they work together to fight that common problem, even though they do not agree about religion? I think so.
wonder

United States

#30 Aug 11, 2013
saved wrote:
God says you are to be responsible person.he says if you dont work and support your family you are worse than an infedel and dont deserve to eat.it dont take faith to pay bills,but obedience. Also, when you push on your brake pedal,do you personally see the brake pads work?no you dont. But you have faith in something to stop you that you cant even see.do you actually see electricity running through wires when you turn the lights on?but yet you are putting faith in something you dont actually see.
those are bad examples. I know how my brakes work, I have seen them, and touched them you can also see and feel electricity!
wonder

United States

#31 Aug 11, 2013
saved wrote:
i will give you another example.GOD is holy,and when people sin a blood sacrifice is required,one that is perfect,without sin.before JESUS came,in the old testament,there were none to be found who were perfect,so animals were used who were without blemish. When GODS son came,JESUS(the new testament)who was perfect,he loved us so much that he gave himself as a sacrifice for our sins,thus doing away with the sacrifices that you hear of in the old testament.those sacrifices were important,but JESUS did away with them with his ultimate sacrifice.the old is very important because it points us directly to JESUS in the new testament
what made him perfect? Because he was "gods" son? I thought by you peoples way of thinking we are ALL "gods" children! Not a very good explanation! Just saying!

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