Fears follow news of ranch closure

PHOTO BY KATE GARDINER / COURTESY OF MOLOKAI TIMES A rally was held Friday by Molokai Ranch employees. Full Story
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VFW

Lafayette, CA

#108 Mar 31, 2008
Hoolehua96729 wrote:
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Well said regarding the windfarm. I"m tired of hearing Save La'au supporters talking about the windfarm as somekind of solution to Molokai economic problems. 1) It will be ugly and 2) It will do nothing for Molokai economy. The only reason that UPC wants to invest in buying the land is because its windy on the west end... if any La'au supporter thinks its to help the community...you are badly mistaken.
What's this windfarm about? There're no businesses on Molokai that can use the power generated, can they?

If they plan to send it to Oahu, have they solved the cabling issue? I hear the Molokai Channel currents are strong and could tear it in two.
A Businessman

Honolulu, HI

#109 Mar 31, 2008
VFW wrote:
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What's this windfarm about? There're no businesses on Molokai that can use the power generated, can they?
If they plan to send it to Oahu, have they solved the cabling issue? I hear the Molokai Channel currents are strong and could tear it in two.
You're absolutely correct. There isn't enough demand on Molokai for that much electricity so the power would be sent to Oahu. There's so little demand on Molokai that it's highly unlikely UPC would be even willing to hook up to that grid.

While good engineering can take care of the technical issues of an undersea cable, there are regulatory (I kid you not) issues.

Until a multitude of issues regarding the UPC pledge are resolved, it should remain and be treated as just that--a pledge. In isn't money in the bank.
Xmolokaiguy

Lexington Park, MD

#110 Apr 1, 2008
First legalize Pot, grow it and sell it there . Like you do already ! What do you think ?

TA DA !

End of problem....
poor Kanaka

San Francisco, CA

#111 Apr 1, 2008
Poor Kanaka Loses again! Sequel to follow . Big Island Taxes= Un substainable Living.
Leewardguy

Honolulu, HI

#112 Apr 9, 2008
jimmy wrote:
Good our Hawaiians got what they want. Pure Hawaiian living, isolation, family members having to leave and eating off the land. Let's see when the state wants their property taxes and the like. Guys like Ritte and others are "lolo" find the right balance and grow up.
Hawaiians will always be stifled by the greediness of others. And I like what anonymous said that the "Problem with Americans is they will forever be occupiers in other peoples lands wanting to be in control and this is one such example". Thank you anonymous.
Leewardguy

Honolulu, HI

#113 Apr 9, 2008
poor Kanaka wrote:
Poor Kanaka Loses again! Sequel to follow . Big Island Taxes= Un substainable Living.
Do you know who's the real loser here? You. try to make sense!!
Leewardguy

Honolulu, HI

#114 Apr 9, 2008
Samoan preacherman wrote:
"Kingdom of Hawaii", that is the problem; too many islanders living in the past
Sole!! most of the samoan's I see are still wearing lava lava's. talk about living in the past awe!!
Leewardguy

Honolulu, HI

#115 Apr 9, 2008
Mahu wrote:
You should get educated yourself anonymous.
Hawaii is a conquered land and people!
Here's a short list of peoples living in a conquered land:
America - Indians, Eskimoes and Hawaiians
Australia - Aboriginies
New Zealand - Maories
Canada - Indians and Eskimoes
France - Tahitians
Japan - Ainus and Okinawans
Spain - Basks
China - Tibetians
South America - Indians
Vietnam - Hmongs
Every nation and country on the face of this earth has been conquered or has conquered others.
That is the ebb and flow of human history!
Kamehameha conquered Maui and Oahu. He pushed my relatives over the Pali for what? So that Oahu and Maui can pay "tribute" to him and his clan under the guise of "unification?" Kamehameha killed more Hawaiians than any whiteman did!
OHA, DHHL are the local government version of paying back for the whiteman's guilt except it's not the haoli that's paying, it's ALL Hawaii residents that's paying!
Why don't you teach this fact on your website? The truth hurts doesn't it?
Wow Mahu!! Sounds like you got panties in a bunch. Anyway really you got one thing right. It's the Hawaiians that's suffering.
Leewardguy

Honolulu, HI

#116 Apr 9, 2008
Monika Paulino wrote:
When will the state step in to save itself from becoming one giant suburb? The natural beauty of the island is slowly being destroyed by developers who are motivated only by money. It's time for Hawaii to assert itself. Developers who violate agricultural codes and ignore EIS results receive a token slap on the wrist, then go on to make their millions. How can the Hawaiian government allow a foreign conglomerate to deny access of a third of an island to the people who belong there? Do not allow such a shameful event to occur. It is time to execute the right of eminent domain and honor the legacy of Hawaii.
What Hawaiian government? There is no Hawaiian government yet!! It was the American government and all the greedy politicians that allowed this to happen. And they will continue to let this happen as long as they can make some monies to fill their pockets. And in the end it is always the Hawaiians that suffer for the greed of others. You need to get your facts strait.
Nuff

Mililani, HI

#117 Apr 9, 2008
J Elizabeth wrote:
The residents of Molokai need to work to maintain a decent living-by feeding their family, paying the mortgage and making car payments. Now that Aloha Airlines is bankrupt and is ceasing operations, the Ilikai is scaling back because of poor occupancy numbers, it is vital that the governor step in to assist these major players in Hawaii's economy. With the dimunitive size of the state, it is imperative that she do as much as possible to find a viable solution to the loss of these jobs. Hang in there, Molokai!
In another thread I wrote:

"Lingle should make an offer to buy the Molokai Ranch, like she made an offer to buy Turtle Bay..."

I was joking when I posted that comment.

Tax payers should not bail out private companies.

Russia figured this out the hard way.

Perhaps Bishop Estate can help the Molokai community out, and help to find a long term solution to this issue.

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