Molokai seeks help in water shutdown

Molokai seeks help in water shutdown

There are 109 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Jun 5, 2008, titled Molokai seeks help in water shutdown. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

WAILUKU Molokai Ranch plans to shut down its water and waste-water systems to some 1,200 customers by the end of August.

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Mahu

United States

#115 Jun 7, 2008
LauLau wrote:
Save Molokai!!!!!!!!
From its stupidity? Use your own money.
Joe Blow

San Antonio, TX

#116 Jun 7, 2008
Puka pants wrote:
Moloka'i is a beautiful Island and should not be ignored for having a desire to keep it rural and beautiful. Damage to Oahu is complete and the island is under stress and so are the residence.
Molokai Ranch has an obligation to continue service,they can sell or close operations but must keep the water, water sewage in operations till a private group can take over.
Molokai Ranch has no obligation to do anything that isn't specified in writing. If they are not required by law to keep the water running then "TS," you (the people of Molokai) should have thought about that possibility before you told them to go "shove" their proposed development.
Joe Blow

San Antonio, TX

#117 Jun 7, 2008
HAPA HAOLE wrote:
They wanted to keep Molokai like "Old Hawaii" right?
How did Kamehameha run his sewer system? Its called finding the closest tree!
Have fun in the stone age Molokai!
Sounds like Maui is on the way to becomming even worse than Waikiki and Ewa Beach combined, and Molokai is on the back to the "gracious" standard of living of the 19th century. Out houses, living off the land, working in the lo'i, riding horses and kukui nuts for light.

Maybe the next step will be to make English optional and Hawaiian mandatory.

Have fun, Molokai. You may actually come out better in the long run than Maui.
Joe Blow

San Antonio, TX

#118 Jun 7, 2008
Puna wrote:
Out here in Puna we catch our own water and have septic tanks or use cesspools.
Looks like West Molokai will have to do the same...if it ever rains there.
Environmentalism can be a good thing, but if you want to live in the 21st century then you have to allow progress to continue in some managable way.
Unfortunately the residents of Molokai have become too dependant on water management like those in other counties that depend on public utilities. When Oahu has garbage strikes or if their twice a week trash pickup is reduced to once per week because of a holiday, people panic.
Here on the Big Island we simply load up our cars and drive to the nearest transfer station and dump it ourselves. By the way Oahu has transfer stations too but many don't know where they are, like the one in Pearl City and another in Waimanalo.
So Molokai, no water? Build a catchment system or drill your own well. No sewer system? Dig a septic tank or cesspool.
Hey that's what we do in certain parts of the Big Island. In some areas of Kalapana and Kapoho some residents don't even get electricity so they generate their own with photovoltaic panels.
Maybe it's time for Molokai to be a model of independance and start building a greener community with renewable resources. They can take their clues from the many of us who already live comfortably off power, water and sewage utilities, oh and of course no trash pickup.
Great advice! You (the people of Molokai) don't want tourism, rich outsiders, etc., telling you folks what to do, well here are some tips on how to do without all that.

And if you go back to riding horses and buggies ayou won't have to pay $4 or $4.50 a gallon for gas, and you can let your car insurance lapse too. Try ask GEICO if they'll insure your horse. I doubt it.

I don't know how you'll have an ice box without electricity, but if Kamehameha could get by without an ice box I'm sure that you folks can do it too.
Joe Blow

San Antonio, TX

#119 Jun 7, 2008
oldfart wrote:
Water and sewer are County issues, not State issues! I do not live in Maui County so don't use my money for Molokai.
The people of Molokai got what it wanted. No cruise line boats, no new housing and no asian company occupying their land.
The consequences are no cash flow, no business, no infrastructure, no economy, nothing. Only welfare. Seems like they only want all the rest of us to give them free money.
The people of molokai have no one to blame but themselves. They are not the center of the universe and the world will move on without them.
And they now have the opportunity to get back to the traditional Hawaiian lifestyle of the 19th century and become self-sufficient (or starve) without any nosey outsiders trying to build anything, "develop" anything, or invest in anything.

Fish and poi for food, riding horses instead of cars and trucks, hunting pigs and whatever else they running around in the mountains, pounding kapa for clothes instead of having to wear cloth (something that is made by outsiders, probably rich people). Oh well.
Mahu

United States

#120 Jun 7, 2008
Joe Blow wrote:
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And they now have the opportunity to get back to the traditional Hawaiian lifestyle of the 19th century and become self-sufficient (or starve) without any nosey outsiders trying to build anything, "develop" anything, or invest in anything.
Fish and poi for food, riding horses instead of cars and trucks, hunting pigs and whatever else they running around in the mountains, pounding kapa for clothes instead of having to wear cloth (something that is made by outsiders, probably rich people). Oh well.
There's another word for "self-sufficient", it's called POVERTY!
RRD

Grand Blanc, MI

#121 Jun 17, 2008
Sad. I love the island of molokai so much but hate the way its people refuse to allow the island to grow into the beautiful, sustainable place it could be. Molokai Ranch has no obligations to an island that refused to allow it to grow responsibly and (yes, heaven forbid) profitably. I trust they will learn a lesson in this. Particularly those people who will lose so much money from the fall in tourism and loss of jobs. God be with the island.
Maxima

Honolulu, HI

#122 Jun 17, 2008
Hold on, hold on King Ritte. Queen Beltran is coming to assist in your plight with water.
She is bringing all the "beach investors" who know how to live off the aina.
For over 4 decades she has gained the knowledge and experience of living on the beach.
There will be a referendum to declare Molokai the Hawaiian Kingdom.
Free at last, free at last, King Ritte and Queen Beltran you are free at last!!! all right...
keola

Honolulu, HI

#123 Jun 19, 2008
whats going on here???...Molokai dont want further development but need help with resources...all the other islands have to deal with development...if you want to preserve your old fashion life style then u have to get water the old fashion way...use a water well and a bucket...
and what happened to king ritte...did he desert his sovereign subjects???...

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