'Mothballing' Molokai Ranch would be ...

'Mothballing' Molokai Ranch would be devastating

There are 32 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Mar 26, 2008, titled 'Mothballing' Molokai Ranch would be devastating. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Molokai Ranch announced it will close its operations at the end of this month. MOLOKAI residents, coping for decades with a distressed economy, have been dealt a severe blow by the announced shutdown of Molokai ...

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get real

Waialua, HI

#22 Mar 26, 2008
Kean wrote:
In this game of power ecopolitics perhaps Lingle should present a case of Eminent Domain; and pay them the value of the land now that it has tumbled because of their decision.
And take it over and do what? Run it like it runs the government and takes care of the infrastructure? Like the pothole mania we live in?

When are you people going to learn that government NEVER does anything better than the private sector?

Before long Moloka'i will simply look like a state park "comfort station."
get real

Waialua, HI

#23 Mar 26, 2008
The residents of Molaka'i wanted subsistence living and now they have it.

So go subsist.(Which is also known as poverty.)
Johnny

Redmond, WA

#24 Mar 26, 2008
Get real, I completely agree, we have the worst schools in the nation, some of the worst roads in the nation, our sewage problems are growing, our trash problems are in limbo, our university is getting slammed on national television for decrepit buildings and lack of funding, we are investing in a mass transit system that will cost millions and no one wil hardly use... and now our taxpayers are supposed to just buy Molokai Ranch and Turtle Bay Resort? PLEASE! Get real. The state can't handle what they have now. If the state had taken care of itself over the last 30 years, this wouldn't be an issue, but just like everything else in hawaii, if no broke, no fix em, if broke duct tape em. This is where the Hawaii government and people need to come to a realization, its time for a change, and not in the direction everyone is trying to go.
Manny Silva

Pleasanton, CA

#25 Mar 26, 2008


Good Video summary on La'au
Observer

Mililani, HI

#27 Mar 27, 2008
get real wrote:
The residents of Molaka'i wanted subsistence living and now they have it.
So go subsist.(Which is also known as poverty.)
Are you serious? The issue was preserving Laau point and not exploiting it for development. How did you come to the conclusion that people want to live in poverty? Once developed what jobs will there be? So we need to develop some other place, then some other...and end up like Oahu? Come on. More concrete jungles?
willie

Plymouth, MI

#28 Mar 27, 2008
Manae_Molokai wrote:
Molokai Ranch's actions to shut down entirely was not the expectations of the protesters. The move was and is extreme, especially since it was a profitable venture. Protesting on behalf of concerns for land over-development (for profit) and natural resource depletion is a noble effort - they shouldn't be chastised for that, they should be commended.
Ask yourself this - when Hawaii in its entirety is completely developed and over populated, would you bother visiting? Urbanized living with ocean views can be attained in San Francisco and LA, so why travel so far? Molokai is a sacred place and I only hope others will try to keep it that way rather than exploit it. Onipaa~
So turning over 85% of their land to conservation (like no building on it) wasn't good enough? That is like 1/4 of the entire island.

Fine, cut off your nose to spite your face and this is what happens.

While the folks are living off the land maybe the activists will be paying their mortgages, taxes, health care and education for their kids...with no jobs it sure won't be the newly unemployed doing it.
Think Longterm

United States

#29 Mar 27, 2008
willie wrote:
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So turning over 85% of their land to conservation (like no building on it) wasn't good enough? That is like 1/4 of the entire island.
Fine, cut off your nose to spite your face and this is what happens.
While the folks are living off the land maybe the activists will be paying their mortgages, taxes, health care and education for their kids...with no jobs it sure won't be the newly unemployed doing it.
Check out the map of what lands were being so generously given. They are the inland half of the west end. Farthest from the ocean and La'au and Kaluakoi. Totally arid and barren and dry.

Wow, how generous these land barons are. Giving away rubbish land so that they can sell of the best. What nice guys.

The number of acres is irrelevant by itself. Regardless of your ethnicity, everyone knows there is a big difference between beach front La'au and the desert land.

This was the same procedure that was used to create Hawaiian Home Lands. The ceded lands (stolen by the State and USA) were the prime lands, thats why the State stole them.

The Hawaiian Home Lands were rubbish lands.

Now the Asian land owners are trying to pull the ancient old scam once again.

For once in all of Hawaii's history, local residents are fighting back and winning.
Molokai resident

Honolulu, HI

#30 Mar 30, 2008
If losing our jobs is the price to save our lifestyle "so be it".

Akua, Bless and take care of all of us, especially Molokai Ranch.
Who cares

Hilo, HI

#31 Mar 30, 2008
Molokai resident wrote:
If losing our jobs is the price to save our lifestyle "so be it".
Akua, Bless and take care of all of us, especially Molokai Ranch.
Somehow i dont think the rest of 120 former employees are going to feel the same way.
JJ meeks

Addison, IL

#32 Mar 30, 2008
Think Longterm wrote:
<quoted text>
Check out the map of what lands were being so generously given. They are the inland half of the west end. Farthest from the ocean and La'au and Kaluakoi. Totally arid and barren and dry.
Wow, how generous these land barons are. Giving away rubbish land so that they can sell of the best. What nice guys.
The number of acres is irrelevant by itself. Regardless of your ethnicity, everyone knows there is a big difference between beach front La'au and the desert land.
This was the same procedure that was used to create Hawaiian Home Lands. The ceded lands (stolen by the State and USA) were the prime lands, thats why the State stole them.
The Hawaiian Home Lands were rubbish lands.
Now the Asian land owners are trying to pull the ancient old scam once again.
For once in all of Hawaii's history, local residents are fighting back and winning.
Yeah, sure looks like they are winning; I think they will all win an EBT card and continue to be drunk, lazy and useless mokes.
Molokai resident

Honolulu, HI

#33 Mar 30, 2008
Who cares wrote:
<quoted text> Somehow i dont think the rest of 120 former employees are going to feel the same way.
You are right, I can only speak for myself, as I see it, there is good in everything, if one trusts His reasons and looks for the lesson beyond the crisis.
Samoan preacherman

Thailand

#34 Mar 30, 2008
the whiners got want they wanted, now they are whining about the ramification; stupid whiners deserve what they get; nuff whining

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