'Mothballing' Molokai Ranch would be ...

'Mothballing' Molokai Ranch would be devastating

There are 32 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Mar 26, 2008, titled 'Mothballing' Molokai Ranch would be devastating. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Molokai Ranch announced it will close its operations at the end of this month. MOLOKAI residents, coping for decades with a distressed economy, have been dealt a severe blow by the announced shutdown of Molokai ...

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willie

Plymouth, MI

#1 Mar 26, 2008
"concerns about water were paramount" Not a concern now, the closed ranch won't be using any at all.
jimmy

Hutto, TX

#2 Mar 26, 2008
Molokai Ranch, you are a private entity and must look out for your best interest as suppsoedly the people of Molokai are also doing. Do not be intimidated by community nonsense or the threat of government intervention. Right is right and we all know the government can be sued as well.

You have tried your best, bank all you want. You have no OBLIGATION to Molokai or its people.
Cat Manapua

Saint George, UT

#4 Mar 26, 2008
Government needs to stay out of private business and respect private property rights. Let the marketplace work.
Pat

United States

#5 Mar 26, 2008
Why do companies from other countries own land in Hawaii where they manipulate for their profit?
NJ Parker OR

Green River, WY

#6 Mar 26, 2008
Water supply/demand certainly the defining core of any land development. Demands of developers cannot be allowed to exceed needs of residents in a limited/isolated area...The Supreme Court ruled correctly; it should be the end of issue.
POINT: What about action to 'seal off' access to beaches by owner? Permitting Legal Compromise?
makule

Anchorage, AK

#7 Mar 26, 2008
instead of building luxury homes why not build homes that HAWAII residents can afford to buy? luxury homes would be purchased by mainlanders as a place to come so they can get away, then the place would turn into a wailea gated comm that locks out the locals, or hires them as their "slaves" just like jamaica has become affordable to the people who visit but not to the locals, oh wait that already happened that's why so many of us hawaiians left hawaii
Joe Blow

San Antonio, TX

#8 Mar 26, 2008
The people of Molokai have the right to reject the proposed development.

The owners have the right to "mothball" their property if they choose to do so.

The people of Molokai have rejected the project. The owners have chosen to "mothball" their property.

End of story.

End of story.
Joe Blow

San Antonio, TX

#9 Mar 26, 2008
Pat wrote:
Why do companies from other countries own land in Hawaii where they manipulate for their profit?
Because people in Hawaii sold it them!

If we don't want foreigners owning land here we (the Hawaii residents and resident businesses that own land here) shouldn't sell it to them.

Oops! Too late!
Your turn - - Governor

Kaneohe, HI

#10 Mar 26, 2008
Yep, it's up to linda to step in and save the day,
For isn't Molokai where she started her journey in Hawaii nei?
Just try to get an absentee landowner to compromise,
...but if they won't don't be surprised!
If no agreement, the State acquire the land for what it takes,
the appraised cost measured according to the profit it makes!
Bob

United States

#11 Mar 26, 2008
The activists on Molokai got what they wanted...no luxury development...no cruise ship visits...and the result is...Surprise...no jobs!

Maybe now they can all be activists and pay their bills that way.

How does an activist get paid anyway?
James Kanahele

Honolulu, HI

#12 Mar 26, 2008
Q: "How does an activist get paid anyway? "

By welfare,'govt assistance', and unemployment payments from hawaii state taxpayers.
Johnny

Redmond, WA

#13 Mar 26, 2008
Gotta love Hawaii.

Its funny, no one in this state seems to know what they want. They cry out 'Save the country!' Then they get pissed when it is saved. There is a balance that must be acheived, and apparently many people are ignorant of this. Development is necessary at times, and if Molokai residents don't want development then they must live without jobs.

Hawaii government policy = if not broke, no need fix eh?
And then when something does break, they go about fixing it the entirely wrong way, wasting money and time. Need examples? Superferry, light rail, turtle bay. Why are we buying resorts with government money when our schools are the worst in the nation. CT has a slightly higher cost of living, but they also have the best schools in the country! Where is our money going?

Look at the Kapiolani Blvd sewer problem... its been what 2? 3years? What's with Ala Wai Blvd sewers? Why are we dumping waste into the Ala Wai? Our economy is tourism and government seems to want to change that.
Manae_Molokai

San Jose, CA

#14 Mar 26, 2008
Molokai Ranch's actions to shut down entirely was not the expectations of the protesters. The move was and is extreme, especially since it was a profitable venture. Protesting on behalf of concerns for land over-development (for profit) and natural resource depletion is a noble effort - they shouldn't be chastised for that, they should be commended.

Ask yourself this - when Hawaii in its entirety is completely developed and over populated, would you bother visiting? Urbanized living with ocean views can be attained in San Francisco and LA, so why travel so far? Molokai is a sacred place and I only hope others will try to keep it that way rather than exploit it. Onipaa~
Who cares

Hilo, HI

#15 Mar 26, 2008
Pat wrote:
Why do companies from other countries own land in Hawaii where they manipulate for their profit?
Probably the same reason U.S. companies invest in foreign countries..to gain profits?
kanaka moali

Honolulu, HI

#16 Mar 26, 2008
James Kanahele wrote:
Q: "How does an activist get paid anyway? "
By welfare,'govt assistance', and unemployment payments from hawaii state taxpayers.
good question? maybe sell pakalolo and smoke it? seen some of the activist do that.
Kean

San Diego, CA

#17 Mar 26, 2008
In this game of power ecopolitics perhaps Lingle should present a case of Eminent Domain; and pay them the value of the land now that it has tumbled because of their decision. We might be able to buy the ranch for a couple of hundred million and then figure out a way to pay for the purchase within Molokai's cultural concerns.
Hal LeBoye

Marina Del Rey, CA

#18 Mar 26, 2008
Manae_Molokai wrote:
Molokai Ranch's actions to shut down entirely was not the expectations of the protesters. The move was and is extreme, especially since it was a profitable venture. Protesting on behalf of concerns for land over-development (for profit) and natural resource depletion is a noble effort - they shouldn't be chastised for that, they should be commended.
Ask yourself this - when Hawaii in its entirety is completely developed and over populated, would you bother visiting? Urbanized living with ocean views can be attained in San Francisco and LA, so why travel so far? Molokai is a sacred place and I only hope others will try to keep it that way rather than exploit it. Onipaa~
I actually think shutdown was the goal of the protesters/activists ... which they achieved. No small feat. Now the burden is on both parties to compromise for the sake of the island and its younger residents. How about a green/sustainable housing development proposal with affordable housing as part of the mix. Done right, maybe Molokai could even become a world leader in this type of development and eventually export the knowhow and technology to other areas of the world that need well planned, low impact, sustainable development. Which is basically the entire planet at this point.

Malama Pono
A non wine mouse

Addison, IL

#19 Mar 26, 2008
Always turning to the government for help, which is why Hawaii is such a Socialist state.
808Seattle

Issaquah, WA

#20 Mar 26, 2008
makule wrote:
instead of building luxury homes why not build homes that HAWAII residents can afford to buy? luxury homes would be purchased by mainlanders as a place to come so they can get away, then the place would turn into a wailea gated comm that locks out the locals, or hires them as their "slaves" just like jamaica has become affordable to the people who visit but not to the locals, oh wait that already happened that's why so many of us hawaiians left hawaii
Hard to buy an affordable home without a job. I do agree somewhat with your assessment of mainlanders coming in and buying a piece of paradise that only they can afford. These part-time residents don't contribute much to the culture and only pay the property taxes.

There needs to be a balance between development, jobs, and keeping Molokai country. That's the job for government. It's unfortunate, but the only jobs available in Hawaii are service-sector, low paying ones. It's a shame that high tech hasn't flourished more with the Hawaiian time zone where one can service both the Mainland and Asia in the same working day. Those high-tech jobs provide good wages and keep our graduates from leaving for the Mainland.
Who cares

Hilo, HI

#21 Mar 26, 2008
Hal LeBoye wrote:
<quoted text>
I actually think shutdown was the goal of the protesters/activists ... which they achieved. No small feat. Now the burden is on both parties to compromise for the sake of the island and its younger residents. How about a green/sustainable housing development proposal with affordable housing as part of the mix. Done right, maybe Molokai could even become a world leader in this type of development and eventually export the knowhow and technology to other areas of the world that need well planned, low impact, sustainable development. Which is basically the entire planet at this point.
Malama Pono
I also suspect that was the agenda of the protestors and activist. Now that they have apparently succeeded..what next? It seem that they are not opened to development so i suspect they would probably be against any other new developement. I guess the old axiom hold true about being careful what u wish...it might just come true.

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