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#17669
Feb 21, 2013
 
National healthcare is pretty sweet. Forcing private options to compete with a national system means that even private insurance or healthcare options are a fraction of what they cost back in the states. My folks always get their teeth cleaned and checked while visiting, to save on out of pocket costs. I'm still not clear hoe the US system can get away with charging so much, while even private systems elsewhere are so much mode reasonable.
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Feb 21, 2013
 
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Good luck getting your diagnosis from an LPN rather than a Dr. When youre wonder if you have pancreatic cancer or just gall stones.:-)
Pretty much the way my Dr office has been for years. The LPN does all the work and the I see the Dr for maybe 2 minutes. He comes in reads what nurse wrote and confirms it a leaves. LPN comes back and hands me papers that tell me what wrong with me and RX papers and your out the door!

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Feb 21, 2013
 
Peter North wrote:
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Pretty much the way my Dr office has been for years. The LPN does all the work and the I see the Dr for maybe 2 minutes. He comes in reads what nurse wrote and confirms it a leaves. LPN comes back and hands me papers that tell me what wrong with me and RX papers and your out the door!
you got that right which has been that way for years.

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Feb 21, 2013
 
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Indy you realize when enough Drs and americans move there they will becone involved with government right?
They already have immigration laws in place where if you are a moocher as in my description of a moocher in the US you have no chance of moving there.... so thats a great start.
speaking of moochers here is great example of whats wrong.

The SCOOTER Store power wheelchair company raided in federal probe

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505266_162-575704...

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#17673
Feb 21, 2013
 
UdintBuildThat wrote:
One of my cousins is even an RN close to Windsor. They told her she had to move to effing Toronto. She told them Pound Sand!
Hospitals there are short on things as simple as antibiotics.... and yes people are dying there because of it.
But lets just tell everyone its raining while hosing them down with piss why dont we?
does she still have a job.
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#17674
Feb 21, 2013
 
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>speaking of moochers here is great example of whats wrong.
The SCOOTER Store power wheelchair company raided in federal probe
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505266_162-575704...
Here's more for ya':

hcfacreport-www.oig.hhs.gov/publications/hcfa...

doj-hhsstrikeforceactiv-www. StopMedicareFraud.gov

accomp-www.healthcare.gov/news/factsheets/201...

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#17675
Feb 21, 2013
 
Rick Scott, who ran a company involved in the nation's largest ... articles.sun-sentinel.com/2010-05-20/news/fl-... ...- Similarto Rick Scott, who ran a company involved in the nation's largest ...

Rick Scott, who ran a company involved in the nation's largest Medicare fraud case, wants to be Florida's governor. May 20, 2010|By Sally Kestin, Sun Sentinel ...

PolitiFact | Mitt Romney and Rick Scott both have Medicare ... www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2... ...

Nov 2, 2012 ... "Scott ran a company that paid a record fine for committing Medicare fraud,... whether Columbia/HCA bilked Medicare and Medicaid for tests that were not ... what it called the largest government fraud settlement in U.S. history ...
PolitiFact | Rick Scott and the fraud case of ... www.politifact.com/florida/article/2010/jun/1... ...- Similarto PolitiFact | Rick Scott and the fraud case of ...

Jun 11, 2010 ... Rick Scott's opponents for governor are telling reporters to essentially brush off ... Scott oversaw the most massive Medicare fraud scheme in American history.”... focused on whether Columbia/HCA bilked Medicare and Medicaid.... what it called the largest government fraud settlement in U.S. history when ...

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Mar 8, 2011 ... In 1997, Rick Scott was implicated in the biggest Medicare fraud case in US history, stepping down as CEO of ... As Florida's new governor, Scott is now trying to kill off an anti-fraud ... As the New York Times adds, he's also making a big push to privatize Medicaid as well—supposedly to save the state ...
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Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>speaking of moochers here is great example of whats wrong.
The SCOOTER Store power wheelchair company raided in federal probe
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505266_162-575704...
These kinds of stunts have been going on for many years. Notice that it outlined Medicare and not private insurance. That's because private insurance looks into things like this and our government doesn't. I worked in the system for ten years. I've seen it first hand repeatedly.

In spite of these countless stories of our wonderful government programs getting ripped off, people elected to have even more government healthcare. People elected failure twice in a row. I'll never be able to figure it out.

The dirty little secret behind these ripoffs is that government knows, but doesn't do anything about it until it's written about or discussed publicly. When I was in the business, Medicare and Medicaid wrote the rules so that they can be ripped off--legally. Why would they do that? For one, it's not their money. Two is the fact that there are a lot of people involved in the medical industry. Lots of people have jobs that rely on Medicare and Medicaid payments even though they know the systems are a scam. I remember the first company I worked for. The owner pressed us to vote for Democrat politicians because they were behind all this.
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UdintBuildThat wrote:
Pigh ive had cousins in canada tell me how effing GAWD AWFUL it is so your propaganda will simply not work here.
Yes..... ive already dfound the droids im looking for.... darlin.
You are partly correct. I get to speak with a lot of Canadian truck drivers that haul freight in and out of the country. The younger to middle-aged people love the Canadian healthcare system. They swear it's the best. The elderly truck drivers have a different story to tell. They say how miserable the system is and advise me to resist it here in the US.

We are a border state to Canada, and all our hospitals here are loaded with Canadian patients. Canada spends over a billion dollars every year to have their citizens treated here instead of there. That tells you something right there.
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#17679
Feb 21, 2013
 
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
Where do you get this stuff? That is not likely to happen. Seniors on Medicare don't Wait 6 months.
Some do and some don't. It depends where you live. But one thing that's certain is more and more doctors are refusing to treat new government patients. They can't take the loss.
xxxrayted

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#17680
Feb 21, 2013
 
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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Well darlin', flights won't be that cheap in about 8 days when Boners sequester takes effect. Lines in Airport Security will be much longer too.
I hope you are not serious about seeking Med Treatment somewhere other than U.S. Not a good idea, although some Americans have been doing that for some time due to cheaper costs elsewhere.
Ohhh, it's the Republicans fault....... again?? I thought it was DumBama's sequester and not Boehner's. But of course, the mainstream won't report it that way. They cover and lie for the head liar ever since he took office.

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Feb 21, 2013
 
xxxrayted wrote:
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These kinds of stunts have been going on for many years. Notice that it outlined Medicare and not private insurance. That's because private insurance looks into things like this and our government doesn't. I worked in the system for ten years. I've seen it first hand repeatedly.
In spite of these countless stories of our wonderful government programs getting ripped off, people elected to have even more government healthcare. People elected failure twice in a row. I'll never be able to figure it out.
The dirty little secret behind these ripoffs is that government knows, but doesn't do anything about it until it's written about or discussed publicly. When I was in the business, Medicare and Medicaid wrote the rules so that they can be ripped off--legally. Why would they do that? For one, it's not their money. Two is the fact that there are a lot of people involved in the medical industry. Lots of people have jobs that rely on Medicare and Medicaid payments even though they know the systems are a scam. I remember the first company I worked for. The owner pressed us to vote for Democrat politicians because they were behind all this.
I know and I agree its been going on for years and now with the exploding out of control Federal Deficit the Federal Government is now taking the Fraud Serious along with the Federal Deficit and is trying to cut expenditures even the fraud now which your right the Federal Government ignored for years and knew about and I know you been around it because I remember you telling us about how you worked in the system for a quite of few years.
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Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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Well darlin', flights won't be that cheap in about 8 days when Boners sequester takes effect. Lines in Airport Security will be much longer too.
I hope you are not serious about seeking Med Treatment somewhere other than U.S. Not a good idea, although some Americans have been doing that for some time due to cheaper costs elsewhere.
***It is actually Nobama's sequester. He came up with it primarily to (pick one or more of the of the following) extort, scare, threaten, trick, pretend negotiating,etc, to get the Repubs to give him a tax increase to 'avert the fiscal cliff'. So now he's blaming the GOP for HIS idea. Well at least he has tired of blaming Bush, for now anyway.
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Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
Where do you get this stuff? That is not likely to happen. Seniors on Medicare don't Wait 6 months.
You're right, seniors do not currently wait 6 months, here in the USA. BUT they have been reported to do so in Canada & the UK & just about any country with socialized medicine.
I talked to a retired doctor just yesterday & he is so glad to be retired. He informed me of the ,mounting paperwork that actually kept him from treating people because of the mounds to mountains of regulations & record keeping that meant that he could see fewer & fewer people. Much of the paperwork/forms/record keeping required more of HIS personal time. He took stuff home away from the office in an effort to keep up. Now add to that burden with current doctors & add to that the numbers the doctors that will retire early & the number of fewer people that will have any interest whatsoever of going to med, dental, chiropractic, nursing, psychiatry or any other form of health care schooling & you'll see that it will take a 6 month appointment time to have a tooth pulled or filled, or a podiatrist to treat a bunion or a dermatologist to treat acne etc etc. Much of which will be worse when one finally sees a doctor because of the protracted time period.
Don't even mention going to the ER because it will have to be worse than now too. Likely MUCH worse since they will likely be understaffed by today's standards & even more so with the build up of people that can't get timely appointments in a doctors office PLUS the undeniable shortage of doctors in the future.
Remember that with resindency & college class time, there is a minimum of TEN years to be an M.D. for the exceptional ones. And that is to be immediately over worked, over regulated & underpaid?!?! Yea, right!
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Gay Marriage Case:

President Barrack Obama support for same sex marriage partners that have to cheat on their partner to conceive future generation.

Demands President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

Hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund same sex partners, Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

This is defiant of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands makes it IMPOSSIBLE for President and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

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Feb 21, 2013
 

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Summa Healthcare System:

Summa Healthcare System joining with nonprofit tax exempts Catholic Health Partners; is defiant of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, Vice President, and Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members. Defying USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and Realities demands, Demands Holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands makes it IMPOSSIBLE for President and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

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I love seeing Caesar walk off a golf course and commence screaming like a needy little crackwhore over not getting to spend more of other peoples money....
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Pops wrote:
<quoted text>You're right, seniors do not currently wait 6 months, here in the USA. BUT they have been reported to do so in Canada & the UK & just about any country with socialized medicine.
I talked to a retired doctor just yesterday & he is so glad to be retired. He informed me of the ,mounting paperwork that actually kept him from treating people because of the mounds to mountains of regulations & record keeping that meant that he could see fewer & fewer people. Much of the paperwork/forms/record keeping required more of HIS personal time. He took stuff home away from the office in an effort to keep up. Now add to that burden with current doctors & add to that the numbers the doctors that will retire early & the number of fewer people that will have any interest whatsoever of going to med, dental, chiropractic, nursing, psychiatry or any other form of health care schooling & you'll see that it will take a 6 month appointment time to have a tooth pulled or filled, or a podiatrist to treat a bunion or a dermatologist to treat acne etc etc. Much of which will be worse when one finally sees a doctor because of the protracted time period.
Don't even mention going to the ER because it will have to be worse than now too. Likely MUCH worse since they will likely be understaffed by today's standards & even more so with the build up of people that can't get timely appointments in a doctors office PLUS the undeniable shortage of doctors in the future.
Remember that with resindency & college class time, there is a minimum of TEN years to be an M.D. for the exceptional ones. And that is to be immediately over worked, over regulated & underpaid?!?! Yea, right!
Exactly. When I was working for a medical company, they decided to open up a pharmacy in the building. It was not like Wallgreens or anything like that, it was a separate part of the building to mix drugs for our home patients.

We hired a pharmacist to oversee the construction of the project. It was under strict supervision of the federal government.

After our weekly Monday morning meeting, we gathered by the coffee pot as we usually did. This was in the early 80's and at the time, there was a UPS strike going on.

While discussing the UPS strike, the pharmacist turned red. She abruptly left the conversation even though she didn't say a word. By the time she came back, the coffee crowd broke up and I was the only one standing there.

She handed me her pharmacy magazine which had a highlighted article about the UPS strike. According to her article, a UPS driver earned about $55,000 per year. A pharmacist earned (at the time) an average of $65,000 per year.

Angrily she said "These people have the nerve to go on strike? Do you know what I and my parents went through for me to become a pharmacist? If this were going on when I left high school, and I knew I would only make $10,000 more per year than a UPS driver, I would be delivering those packages right there (as she pointed to the door where UPS dropped off) instead of going through all this!"

People chose overpaid union jobs over medical careers, and that's why we have a shortage of people in that field today--although it's getting better. Nobody in their right mind would invest time and money into a career where the is not rewarding.

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#17688
Feb 21, 2013
 
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>does she still have a job.
Shes retired but if she needs to go to a hospital she has to go 175 miles to Toronto.

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Feb 21, 2013
 
UdintBuildThat wrote:
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Shes retired but if she needs to go to a hospital she has to go 175 miles to Toronto.
true because I know Canada doesnt have an infrastructure like we do here in the United States besides more people live in the State of California than the whole Country of Canada.

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