mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25714 Feb 18, 2014
kuda wrote:
No, what wasn't "good enough" about W's administration was the neocons' wars, which were immoral as unnecessary and created needless major spending.
They weren't budgeted properly, for sure. But it's your opinion that the wars weren't needed.

Both of the Clintons were convinced that Saddam Hussein had WMD. They're both liars, so they're words don't mean much. But, they were also privvy to the same intelligence information Bush had. If Bush was lying, so were they.

Bill Clinton (2003): "People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."

Sen. Hillary Clinton (2002): "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25715 Feb 18, 2014
Reality Check wrote:
So the creation science lapdog likes to think of himself as a "repentant Dahmer"?!?
ROFLMFAO
No, that's how you think of me. I think of you as corpse-f***ing cannibal.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25721 Feb 18, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Posts on Topix all day and night long.
Thinks his truck is haunted.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25723 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
If you believe there's no higher authority, then murder is nothing more than a morality thing invented by humans. Other animals kill each other -- sometimes within their own species, and without punishment. One animal attacks, the other tries to defend itself. Somebody wins, but neither one is wrong. It's just nature.
<quoted text>
Have you noticed that every time you VOID something, it isn't? You're void.
There's hypocrisy in both parties. There are far more tax evaders in the democrat party than there are in the republican. And Obama's stimulus pkg that was supposed to help create jobs? Most of it went to pad the pockets of the unions that support him. You dumocrats don't give a shit about the poor. It's just an excuse to pick everyone's pockets.
I'll be waiting for your next whine.
Obama's stimulus package was designed to stop America from sliding into a major economic depression created by "God's President" GW Bush. Unfortunately, the greedy CEOs gave themselves fat bonuses instead. A mother crocodile will defend it's young with its life. Squirrels aren't randomly murdering each other on my front lawn because they are unable to read the 10 Commandments. The long list of Christian Conservative Republicans that have been busted as pedophiles kinda puts a damper on your whole "morality" monopoly you seem to think a 3000 year old fear based book of borrowed myths instantly awards its readers. So fill us in, oh "wise" one. Is a self proclaimed Conservative Christian groping toddlers worse than the gays getting married? From a moral high ground point of view, that is. You ever notice how you ignore reality and claim others are doing the same? What's the word I'm looking for? Oh, that's right...VOID
Canton

Canton, OH

#25725 Feb 18, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Now this is an interesting post: a cradle-to-graver that doesn't know he is one.
Cradle to grave means that government makes your every move. Government is there to wipe your azz the first time you ship and there to put the first shovel of dirt on your grave.
You know, how government should do something for you when somebody has wealth handed down to them by a family member? Or how government should make sure you are well shielded from people preaching about the man in the sky? If the air or water is not to your satisfaction, government should do something so that the air and water meets your approval? Or even how government should get even with those billionaire oil people that supply you with your natural gas, electricity, gasoline for your car, and thousands of jobs for Americans?
Strange. I've never had a government hand out in my life, so again...what is this "Cradle to Grave" thing you keep talking about? I have health insurance so no free ride there. I pay my taxes and don't scheme to find loopholes or offshore accounts so I'm in no way a leech on the neck of society. I intend to collect my social security just like you. I just don't see this great government hand out you keep clucking about. It's almost as if it's all in your head. You know, like when you claimed and then avoided backing up your comment about the Democrats counting on dead people's votes to get elected. Or your claim that your haunted truck breaks down every single week due to environmental devices. I know it sounds absurd, but it's your words so...yah. Let me guess. Cradle to Grave is like when you call hard working, tax paying Americans a bunch of commies, while Conservatives call Putin a hero. Maybe it's about when an old man hands his inept son a company to run into the ground at the cost of the middle class working man. I personally like to think that "Cradle to Grave" is talking about how long folks like yourself will be corporate fetch boys. Remind us, Rubber Ducky. Out of air, water and oil, which can the human race survive without? Since it's a proven fact that the energy industry is one of the greatest contributors to poisoning our air and water, go ahead and give us your Glenn Beck style, tearful speech on how you're just a common man who loves all thing crude oil. How much of that gas in my car goes to driving to work to make the "job creator" exponentially richer while the middle class flat lines? You can suck off boss man all day, but some of us are wise enough to realize there's a reason why we never get invited to the 1%er country club. The only reason the energy industry doesn't outsource, is because the can't.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25726 Feb 18, 2014
Canton wrote:
I bet you'd like me to quit pointing out the obvious and striking similarity in Christian Conservative's beliefs, when compared to child murdering terrorist, Timothy McVeigh
Yes, we know how much you liberals care about the children.

I did some reading about McVey on Wikipedia. He was agnostic, and claimed that science was his religion. He voted libertarian in 1996. He was definitely angry at the govt, but it was because of what was done at Waco and Ruby Ridge.

He wrote an essay in 1998 that sounds more like Obama's old buddy, Bill Ayers, than it does a conservative.....

"The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons ("weapons of mass destruction")— mainly because they have used them in the past.

Well, if that's the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims this was done for deterrent purposes during its "Cold War" with the Soviet Union. Why, then, it is invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterrence) with respect to Iraq's (real) war with, and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran?

The administration claims that Iraq has used these weapons in the past. We've all seen the pictures that show a Kurdish woman and child frozen in death from the use of chemical weapons. But, have you ever seen those pictures juxtaposed next to pictures from Hiroshima or Nagasaki?

I suggest that one study the histories of World War I, World War II and other "regional conflicts" that the U.S. has been involved in to familiarize themselves with the use of "weapons of mass destruction."

Remember Dresden? How about Hanoi? Tripoli? Baghdad? What about the big ones — Hiroshima and Nagasaki?(At these two locations, the U.S. killed at least 150,000 non-combatants — mostly women and children — in the blink of an eye. Thousands more took hours, days, weeks or months to die).

If Saddam is such a demon, and people are calling for war crimes charges and trials against him and his nation, why do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of "mass destruction" — like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above?

The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction."
Canton

Canton, OH

#25728 Feb 18, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh for crying out loud with your leftist lies. When did GW ever say that Iraq was responsible for 911?
Haliburton has been involved in every US reconstruction project since the Vietnam war. WTF else was as capable as Haliburton or their subsidiaries to rebuild Iraq? What company built Iraq's oil infrastructure in the first place?
Yellowcake in Iraq:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/25546334#.UwQNpyjij...
Cheney and Haliburton:
http://stanfordreview.org/old_archives/Archiv...
You are correct. It was Halliburton's Cheney who tied 9/11 to Iraq. How completely off the mark I was to suggest it was Bush. Obviously you uncovered my great conspiracy to blame the Bush administration for it. Considering Halliburton has always been there to make money off of needless GOP wars, there is nothing shady about Cheney selling an unfounded war before Halliburton made billions in no bid government contracts off of it. I'm sure if Obama did that, you wouldn't bat an eye. Now in Viet Nam and Iraq both, the threat to American soil was what? The outcome of our American soldiers dying accomplished...? I mean besides Halliburton making billions of dollars. Oh, that's right. It's all about the GOP's well known love of spreading freedom and democracy to Muslims and socialists and nothing to do with defense spending or military contracts.

Here's Cheney and McCain claiming the Iraqi government met with Al Qaeda before 9/11. I'm sure it's just some Liberal media trick with camera work and green screens.

Canton

Canton, OH

#25729 Feb 18, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama Administration Outsourced Jobs with Stimulus Funding
July 10, 2012
- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-adminis...
Stimulus funds boost number of federal jobs
Posted 9/23/2009
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washingto...
I'm sorry but a right wing propaganda site doesn't hack it. We have been over this before. Remember. You are the guy who bases his opinions off of proven liar, Rush Limbaugh. I'm the guy who doesn't watch MSNBC because it is leftist propaganda.

The USA story was interesting though. You skipped over the part where it created energy industry jobs though. You can thank Obama later.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25730 Feb 18, 2014
Canton wrote:
Obama's stimulus package was designed to stop America from sliding into a major economic depression created by "God's President" GW Bush. Unfortunately, the greedy CEOs gave themselves fat bonuses instead.
How did that happen, with Biden overseeing everything?(LOL)

Harsh words from Senate Minority Whip, John Cornyn (D, TX) on the 5th anniversary of the stimulus pkg:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/17/john...

Obama issued Executive Order #13502 concerning Project Labor Agreements. It strongly recommends that states hire only union workers for construction jobs. That means the union bosses get their pockets lines, and the democrat party gets more funding.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25731 Feb 18, 2014
Here's what a political fact checking website thinks of cnsnews...

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/cnsne...
Canton

Canton, OH

#25732 Feb 18, 2014
Here's a web site dedicated to exposing cnsnews for being liars. Sure, it's probably run by leftists, but where there's smoke...

http://cnsnewswatch.org/
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25733 Feb 18, 2014
Canton wrote:
A mother crocodile will defend it's young with its life.
And a wolf spider will eat hers.
Squirrels aren't randomly murdering each other on my front lawn because they are unable to read the 10 Commandments.
"Random" implies that there's no motivation in choosing certain victims. Based on what I've read, mass murderers may not have known the victims, but they had an objective in mind, and spent a lot of time planning the attack. And a serial killer usually targets the same type of person every time.

The black-tailed prairie dog:
"A seven-year natural experiment by John Hoogland...revealed that infanticide is widespread in this species, including infanticide from invading males and immigrant females, as well as occasional cannibalism of an individual's own offspring. The surprising finding of the study was that by far the most common type of infanticide involved the killing of close kin's offspring. This seems illogical, as kin selection favors behaviors that promote the well-being of closely related individuals....Marauding behavior is evidently adaptive, as infanticidal females had more and healthier young than others, and were heavier themselves as well. This behavior appears to reduce competition with other females for food, and future competition among offspring."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide_%28z...

Kinda puts those cute little prairie dogs in a different light, doesn't it?
Canton

Canton, OH

#25734 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
How did that happen, with Biden overseeing everything?(LOL)
Harsh words from Senate Minority Whip, John Cornyn (D, TX) on the 5th anniversary of the stimulus pkg:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/17/john...
Obama issued Executive Order #13502 concerning Project Labor Agreements. It strongly recommends that states hire only union workers for construction jobs. That means the union bosses get their pockets lines, and the democrat party gets more funding.
Yah, that Biden and his kookie magic underwear that repels evil spirits. Oh wait. That was Romney I'm thinking of. That's strange. Above, you claimed John Cornyn was a Democrat. Instead your shocking revelation is that a Republican from Texas doesn't like Obama. Strange since you copied and pasted the title, that it got changed. Nothing conniving going on there.

I'll have to look it up and see which part of the Executive order mentions union bosses getting their pockets lined. Either way, I'm sure you'll agree, since you are in no way the top wealthiest 1%, that it's about time they quit favoring these bloated tax dodgers and take care of the American 99% labor working class folks like you and me. Anything short of that would be directly against our own interests and as dumb as the day is long. I'll step back and make room so you can thank Obama for looking out for yours and us other 99% working man's best interests.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25735 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
And a wolf spider will eat hers.
<quoted text>
"Random" implies that there's no motivation in choosing certain victims. Based on what I've read, mass murderers may not have known the victims, but they had an objective in mind, and spent a lot of time planning the attack. And a serial killer usually targets the same type of person every time.
The black-tailed prairie dog:
"A seven-year natural experiment by John Hoogland...revealed that infanticide is widespread in this species, including infanticide from invading males and immigrant females, as well as occasional cannibalism of an individual's own offspring. The surprising finding of the study was that by far the most common type of infanticide involved the killing of close kin's offspring. This seems illogical, as kin selection favors behaviors that promote the well-being of closely related individuals....Marauding behavior is evidently adaptive, as infanticidal females had more and healthier young than others, and were heavier themselves as well. This behavior appears to reduce competition with other females for food, and future competition among offspring."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide_%28z...
Kinda puts those cute little prairie dogs in a different light, doesn't it?
Oh those animals and the kookie traits evolution has passed down in them to continue their species. Saw a bird, a rabbit and a squirrel all sitting next to each other the other day. I could tell they had read the Bible, because the weren't murdering each other. Just like herds of deer. A murderous lot. Always watching over their back for some other deer to come along and murder them. Lions...same thing. Your point about serial killers makes sense though, because, as you pointed out, we would all be selecting our next victims to murder and cannibalize right now if it weren't for those fables in the Bible being passed down. This is evident by how the Buddhists are always chopping each other up and eating each other.

Here's a story about a Christian woman who murdered her own children because "God" told her to. Kinda puts those cute little Christians in a different light, doesn't it?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/29/children.sl...

Here's another...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates

Here's another example of the moral high ground...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-23257...
Canton

Canton, OH

#25736 Feb 18, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, we know how much you liberals care about the children.
I did some reading about McVey on Wikipedia. He was agnostic, and claimed that science was his religion. He voted libertarian in 1996. He was definitely angry at the govt, but it was because of what was done at Waco and Ruby Ridge.
He wrote an essay in 1998 that sounds more like Obama's old buddy, Bill Ayers, than it does a conservative.....
"The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons ("weapons of mass destruction")— mainly because they have used them in the past.
Well, if that's the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims this was done for deterrent purposes during its "Cold War" with the Soviet Union. Why, then, it is invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterrence) with respect to Iraq's (real) war with, and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran?
The administration claims that Iraq has used these weapons in the past. We've all seen the pictures that show a Kurdish woman and child frozen in death from the use of chemical weapons. But, have you ever seen those pictures juxtaposed next to pictures from Hiroshima or Nagasaki?
I suggest that one study the histories of World War I, World War II and other "regional conflicts" that the U.S. has been involved in to familiarize themselves with the use of "weapons of mass destruction."
Remember Dresden? How about Hanoi? Tripoli? Baghdad? What about the big ones — Hiroshima and Nagasaki?(At these two locations, the U.S. killed at least 150,000 non-combatants — mostly women and children — in the blink of an eye. Thousands more took hours, days, weeks or months to die).
If Saddam is such a demon, and people are calling for war crimes charges and trials against him and his nation, why do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of "mass destruction" — like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above?
The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction."
So now you are claiming that Liberals don't care for their children? Wow. Well, if that's how it's going to be, then the only reason Christian Conservatives are anti-abortion is because they want all those lumps of cells to grow into toddlers so they can molest them and then slap a Southern Baptist owned cigarette in their mouths... or what they like to call "targeted life long customers". Can I get a praise Jesus! I'm glad you read up on Timmy McTeaBaggers though. That way you can't deny the fact that most of his views read like a Tea Party manifesto, without breaking one of the 10 Commandments.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25737 Feb 18, 2014
Canton wrote:
Here's a story about a Christian woman who murdered her own children because "God" told her to. Kinda puts those cute little Christians in a different light, doesn't it?
Is that different than a liberal woman killing her children because the democrat party tells her she can? You can keep citing instances of so-called Christians or republicans doing things that go against what the bible or the republican platform says, but all you're showing is that those people didn't adhere to what the group supports. The democrat platform, on the other hand, supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose. The right to murder is in your party's platform.
Class

United States

#25738 Feb 18, 2014
I am "Happy to see everyone" is starting to see who is who on this site...they are too ashamed to use their names because they want run out of this this town...by 95% of everyone. You are trying to get a point to two Logo Atheist.!!!
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Class

United States

#25740 Feb 18, 2014
How many names can 2 people make up? Please, you are not fooling anyone !! Be Real !!
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25741 Feb 18, 2014
Canton wrote:
I'm glad you read up on Timmy McTeaBaggers though. That way you can't deny the fact that most of his views read like a Tea Party manifesto, without breaking one of the 10 Commandments.
Right. That's why he thought a number of presidents -- democrat and republican alike, from WWI on -- were war criminals. He was very similar to Bill Ayers, who was militant, anti-govt, and anti-war, and felt certain presidents should be charged with war crimes.

Another failed attempt by you to slander an entire group because of the actions of one. You're a joke.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#25742 Feb 18, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes they did, because they were in the majority. But if you care to check, you'll find out that there was a higher percentage of Republicans that passed the bill than Democrats:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013...
You continue to try to confuse people ignorant of our history with some outdated political labels.
That's a good article. I think this is the passage you were referring to:

"80% of Republicans in the House and Senate voted for the bill. Less than 70% of Democrats did. Indeed, Minority Leader Republican Everett Dirksen led the fight to end the filibuster. Meanwhile, Democrats such as Richard Russell of Georgia and Strom Thurmond of South Carolina tried as hard as they could to sustain a filibuster. "

Richard Russell of Georgia and Strom Thurmond of South Carolina were both well known segregationists. They were the conservative forces of their day. They opposed civil rights legislation, and supported state's rights. When the Democratic Party passed civil rights legislation in the 1960s, the "Southern Democrats" suddenly became Republicans and voted for Richard Nixon.

"In 2005, the political scientists Nicholas Valentino and David Sears demonstrated that a Southern man holding conservative positions on issues other than race is no more likely than a conservative Northerner to vote for a Democrat. But when the relevant identifier is anti-black answers to survey questions—like whether one agrees “If blacks would only try harder they could be just as well off as whites”—white Southerners were twice as likely than white Northerners to refuse to vote Democratic. As another political scientist, Thomas Schaller, wrote in his 2006 book Whistling Past Dixie (which naturally quotes the infamous Atwater lines),“Despite the best efforts of Republican spinmeisters...the partisan impact of racial attitudes in the South is stronger today than in the past.”

http://www.thenation.com/article/170841/exclu...

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