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Canton

Canton, OH

#25749 Feb 19, 2014
"Taxes are a joke. Regardless of what a political candidate "promises," they will increase. More taxes are always the answer to government mismanagement. They mess up. We suffer. Taxes are reaching cataclysmic levels, with no slowdown in sight.[...] Is a Civil War Imminent? Do we have to shed blood to reform the current system? I hope it doesn't come to that. But it might." -Timothy McVeigh
Canton

Canton, OH

#25750 Feb 19, 2014
"I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out."

Ooops. That one wasn't from Timmy McVeigh. That was Sharron Angle from the Tea Party.

THIS is Timmy McVeigh...

"Do we have to shed blood to reform the current system? I hope it doesn't come to that. But it might." -Timothy McVeigh

Canton

Canton, OH

#25751 Feb 19, 2014
So basically other than sharing the EXACT same views, and I'm talking to the letter, with the Tea Party on the government, taxes, gun control, socialism and the Constitution, I failed at showing his views read like a step by step play book for the Tea Party. Except for the fact that I clearly showed he is the poster child for the Tea Party, you really showed me up on that one...VOID. Enjoy your" high moral ground" and never mind the FACT that you guys are walking in the footsteps of a child murdering terrorist.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25752 Feb 19, 2014
"There is no doubt that Timothy McVeigh was deeply influenced by the Christian Identity movement. Christian Identity is a profoundly racist and theocratic form of faith that developed in the late 1970s and spread like wildfire through rural communities throughout the U.S. in the 1980s."

Boy, he seems more like a "Liberal" with every post...Ahhh ha ha ha ha ha! VOID
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25754 Feb 19, 2014
Canton wrote:
So basically other than sharing the EXACT same views, and I'm talking to the letter, with the Tea Party on the government, taxes, gun control, socialism and the Constitution, I failed at showing his views read like a step by step play book for the Tea Party. Except for the fact that I clearly showed he is the poster child for the Tea Party, you really showed me up on that one...VOID.
Still thinking that your VOIDs mean something, huh? You're void

Your still-desperate attempts to identify an entire group of peaceful citizens to the actions of one loon is ridiculous. VOID, douchebag.

[QUOTE]Enjoy your" high moral ground" and never mind the FACT that you guys are walking in the footsteps of a child murdering terrorist.
I walk in the footsteps of the founders. You walk in the footsteps of the Hitler youth, thinking that your Der Leader actually gives a crap about you.

Your morality is whatever you happen to think is right on any given day, because you're just a glorified monkey.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25755 Feb 19, 2014
kuda wrote:
I appreciate your homage to human rights, in this case those specific to blood relatives who may wish to marry each other, or one another as the case may be, and, it is certainly the case that married people don't necessarily produce offspring. You make a good argument that there should be no law established by the federal or any state government limiting parties to marriage. I'm generally all in favor of being inclusive feather than exclusive.
I believe that most proponents of gay marriage argue as I do that GLBT people have the same right as other people to intermarry — for love, practical benefits associated with marriage and yes, perhaps to parent their children.
You're the only liberal I've come across that would support incestuous, polygamous, and human-animal marriages. Usually when those unions are mentioned, libs bristle with the same judgmental attitudes they accuse their opponents of having.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#25756 Feb 19, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
You know what else is in actual polls? That George Bush who hasn't been in office for over five years is responsible for our economy today. Now gee, where would people get an idea like that?
Let's see, when Bush left office we were losing 800,000 jobs a month, the Dow was below 7,000, the housing market, auto industry and banking industry were in the toilet.
He had managed to take a $500 billion budget surplus, that he inherited and turn it into a $1.4 trillion deficit. We were in 2 costly wars, one of which was based on false intelligence and costing us trillions of dollars and thousands of lives.
We were $10.6 trillion in debt and Osama Bin Laden was still walking around.

It took 8 years to trash this country and you idiots cry that wasn't totally fixed in 6 months. And the blocking, impeding, obstructing and childish filibusters are still going on almost 6 years later.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#25757 Feb 19, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the only liberal I've come across that would support incestuous, polygamous, and human-animal marriages. Usually when those unions are mentioned, libs bristle with the same judgmental attitudes they accuse their opponents of having.
And just where in that statement was mentioned human-animal marriage? At least animals have more brains than you're sick mind. Even a chicken that has a brain smaller than a pea still has sense enough to get out the rain.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#25758 Feb 19, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Really now? And you have proof of this? Because I would find it odd that Republicans would disenfranchise a group of people that typically vote Republican. That seems strange to me. That would be like somebody saying the Democrats were suppressing union votes.
This only makes the second or third time you've showed pure laziness or denial of the facts of sleazy GOP caging of voters. Here you go again you worthless denier:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_caging

When you do the back breaking job of typing into google," voter caging", PRESTO, pages and articles full showing another election stealing-suppression tactic of the honorable sleazebag GOP party.
Educate yourself cause Rushypoo and Fuxed Up Liars News never touch on this subject

projectvote.org/voter-caging.html

Civil liberties Union, Brennan Center, PBS and many non-liars have articles that will gladly show you a truthful article.
Good luck at cnsnews or WND for anything with the truth.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25759 Feb 19, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
I walk in the footsteps of the founders. You walk in the footsteps of the Hitler youth, thinking that your Der Leader actually gives a crap about you.
Your morality is whatever you happen to think is right on any given day, because you're just a glorified monkey.
Sorry. The founders of this nation were mostly Deists. Jefferson went as far as to physically cut out all of the zany, bogus magic tricks Jesus did in the Bible. Like I said, thank "god" you guys are fading in the rear view mirror of this great nation. Not that re-writing history to indoctrinate children into your kookie all white Mayberry oil cult for Jesus party through children's books like what proven liar, Rush Limbaugh did isn't conniving and typical right wing tactics. I have posted on here before, the 14 things all fascist regimes have in common and it nails you right wing Christian Conservatives to a tee. Every single speck of it. So goose step to that one.

So let's see. Tea Party agenda matches perfectly with child murdering terrorist and Christian white supremacist Timothy McVeigh's agenda. Tea Baggers often call the tax paying, hard working people of this nation a bunch of "commies", while declaring Vladimir Putin a Conservative hero due to his Christian Conservative views on gays. Right wing Christian Conservatives' agenda matches up perfectly with a study showing 14 things all fascist regimes have in common....yep. The facts are all right there. Those Jesus loving Tea Bagger patriots really are obviously the poster children for all things moral and American. VOID with just a dash of treason. That's you.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25761 Feb 19, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>And just where in that statement was mentioned human-animal marriage? At least animals have more brains than you're sick mind. Even a chicken that has a brain smaller than a pea still has sense enough to get out the rain.
Lil' Mutt is always getting caught breaking his 10 commandments. When he isn't telling lies, he's conniving at best. He would seem less of a hypocrite if his god from which all things come from hadn't created abortion and homosexuality.
Mbama

Portsmouth, OH

#25763 Feb 19, 2014
democrats are nee-gars.
RunnerUpRomney

Canton, OH

#25764 Feb 19, 2014
Mbama wrote:
democrats are nee-gars.
How absurd that anyone would call the Tea Baggers an ignorant bunch of racists.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25765 Feb 19, 2014
Canton wrote:
Never had a government handout in my life. Is this another one of those conniving lies you get caught telling all the time? You know, like in your creepy Bible incest fairytale book? Just keep it away from America's children.
Now about that free ride you tax dodging, trust fund baby Putin fans have had handed to you. Some of us REAL Americans worked hard to EARN what we have in life. Say it with me, lil' poochie...we EARNED what we have. Strange how it's always the silver spoon right wing leeches on the necks of their parents when you hear someone whining like country club sissies about how the poor people are taking all their freebies away. How greedy.
Kinda neat though how I live my life a hundred times closer to the teachings of Jesus Christ than all those Bible thumping greedy f*cks and I'm not even in your lice infested shepherd, weird 3000 year old middle eastern cult you guys keep trying to force into our schools and government. Directly against the intentions of the founders of this nation, I might add. Ohhhh slammed you in the mouth with the cold hard facts of reality again, lil' pooch pooch. Be sure to pick up your VOID on the way out.
Try again, and this time don't lie your ass off.
Mgobba

Portsmouth, OH

#25766 Feb 19, 2014
RunnerUpRomney wrote:
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How absurd that anyone would call the Tea Baggers an ignorant bunch of racists.
You are a nee-gar lover.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25767 Feb 19, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
Let's see, when Bush left office we were losing 800,000 jobs a month, the Dow was below 7,000, the housing market, auto industry and banking industry were in the toilet.
He had managed to take a $500 billion budget surplus, that he inherited and turn it into a $1.4 trillion deficit. We were in 2 costly wars, one of which was based on false intelligence and costing us trillions of dollars and thousands of lives.
We were $10.6 trillion in debt and Osama Bin Laden was still walking around.
It took 8 years to trash this country and you idiots cry that wasn't totally fixed in 6 months. And the blocking, impeding, obstructing and childish filibusters are still going on almost 6 years later.
Read a bit about Obama's beautiful friendship with Wall St.:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/677...

"Printing" money hand over fist also helps his fat-cat buddies:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/examiner-editor...

Obama has turned a $10 T debt (I wonder how much of that debt Obama voted for as a senator?) into a $7 T debt., and the actual unemployment rate is 37%. Welfare has increased substantially since he took office. Iraq is being taken over by terrorists, and rather than being on the run, al-Qaeda is a growing threat across the middle east. What a success story!
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25768 Feb 19, 2014
Canton wrote:
Sorry. The founders of this nation were mostly Deists. Jefferson went as far as to physically cut out all of the zany, bogus magic tricks Jesus did in the Bible.
You're uninformed (or willfully ignorant) as always.

Jefferson's word about Jesus:
"In extracting the pure principles which he taught, we should have to strip off the artificial vestments in which they have been muffled by priests, who have travestied them into various forms, as instruments of riches and power to themselves....We must reduce our volume to the simple evangelists, select, even from them, the very words only of Jesus .... There will be found remaining the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man."

He also said, ""A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen; it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."

So, just because Jefferson doesn't fit your moronic notion of what a Christian is supposed to be, doesn't mean he wasn't one. He may have been one of the most sincere.
Those Jesus loving Tea Bagger patriots really are obviously the poster children for all things moral and American. VOID with just a dash of treason. That's you.
That's the founders, you dumbass.

"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."
---Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."
---Edmund Pendleton, The Virginia ratifying convention, Jun. 1788.

"[C]onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his most essential rights, to bear arms, and to resist every attack upon his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular states, like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend, by force of arms, their rights, when invaded."
---Roger Sherman, during House consideration of a militia bill, 1790.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25769 Feb 19, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
And just where in that statement was mentioned human-animal marriage? At least animals have more brains than you're sick mind. Even a chicken that has a brain smaller than a pea still has sense enough to get out the rain.
I assumed Kuda was responding to my entire post about human rights and marriage. I included bestiality/zoophilia in it. My quote:

Laws against bestiality are influenced by biblical morality. Wikipedia says that zoophilia was not uncommon among indigenous tribes in North America, and that in Hungary, where there are no restrictions, "zoophilic materials have become a substantial industry". There are discussion and support groups online -- one having a million members -- for people who want to discuss their sexuality.

Medical research suggests some zoophiles have no sexual attraction to humans at all, and according to Andrea Beets, PhD, it is not a lifestyle that is chosen.(In other words, they are born that way.(Where have we heard that before?)) According to several researchers, "the distinction between zoophilia and zoosadism is a critical one" and there is significant social harm caused by misunderstandings regarding zoophilia. Those misunderstandings destroy the lives of many citizens."
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25770 Feb 19, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
And just where in that statement was mentioned human-animal marriage? At least animals have more brains than you're sick mind. Even a chicken that has a brain smaller than a pea still has sense enough to get out the rain.
Where do you get your moral authority? How have you decided what's right and wrong, or normal and abnormal? And what makes your morality better than someone else's?
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#25771 Feb 19, 2014
mutt wrote:
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They weren't budgeted properly, for sure. But it's your opinion that the wars weren't needed.
Both of the Clintons were convinced that Saddam Hussein had WMD. They're both liars, so they're words don't mean much. But, they were also privvy to the same intelligence information Bush had. If Bush was lying, so were they.
Bill Clinton (2003): "People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (2002): "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
I never call people liars regardless of their political leanings, nor do I recommend it. While it's a strategy tea partiers seem to embrace to discredit those whom they oppose, such raw hyperbole lacks subtlety, creates bad will and is entirely unnecessary and uncalled for in reasonable debate.

Indeed I do regard the war in Iraq a costly mistake that was entirely unjustified, other than as a cash cow for the military/industrial complex.

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