Volunteers continue search for missin...

Volunteers continue search for missing baby

There are 23 comments on the WNWO-TV Toledo story from Jun 15, 2013, titled Volunteers continue search for missing baby. In it, WNWO-TV Toledo reports that:

The search for Elaina Steinfurth continues. Two weeks after the 18-month-old disappeared from an East Toledo home, her community broke into search teams on Saturday to look for Elaina.

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TexMex

Arlington, TX

#1 Jun 15, 2013
" The group Justice for Nevaeh joined the search for Elaina on Thursday, hoping to bring organization to the effort."

Right. They're just so organized.
That's why they have their t-shirts scrawled with magic marker, indicating "search team" and "team leader".

I read one article which cited that volunteers needed to undergo "background checks".
Like these plodding sows have the credentials to conduct background checks? What a joke.

There should be a law against these wannabe CSI wierdos who do this crap.

If they want to play CSI detective, fine, but make them post up financial collateral in an amount equivalent to the resources wasted on investigating their stupid shit.

Why should the taxpayers have to fund their intermeddling weekend warrior forest games?
CVT6702

AOL

#2 Jun 16, 2013
TexMex wrote:
" The group Justice for Nevaeh joined the search for Elaina on Thursday, hoping to bring organization to the effort."
Right. They're just so organized.
That's why they have their t-shirts scrawled with magic marker, indicating "search team" and "team leader".
I read one article which cited that volunteers needed to undergo "background checks".
Like these plodding sows have the credentials to conduct background checks? What a joke.
There should be a law against these wannabe CSI wierdos who do this crap.
If they want to play CSI detective, fine, but make them post up financial collateral in an amount equivalent to the resources wasted on investigating their stupid shit.
Why should the taxpayers have to fund their intermeddling weekend warrior forest games?
I doubt if tax payers pay for this, they no doubt depend on their own free services and perhaps a few donations but even then I'm not sure.
A lot of people are devoted to helping.
Who are you to criticize people trying to help.
Calling your self Tex-Mex could also be the reason people are prejudice against mexicans, which i am not, but when someone like you labels himself with an ethic group and talks like this you are not a very good role model or good will abassador.
Why don't you choose a different name like mean sucker and have nothing good to say about what someone else is doing while I sit here in my butt and criticize.
Dr Obvious

Jackson, MI

#3 Jun 16, 2013
CVT6702 wrote:
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I doubt if tax payers pay for this, they no doubt depend on their own free services and perhaps a few donations but even then I'm not sure.
Any time an investigator or agency staff has to go out and investigate a "find", as reported by citizen searchers -- our tax dollars pay for it. And believe you, me ... when there are hundreds, or even thousands of leads, as in some cases, the price tag really adds up.

Most of the volunteers are good-hearted members of the community who just want to help. But they're not properly trained to help. The search group who wears magic marker imprinted clothing is not properly trained to train them to help.

They need to post a financial collateral in the equivalent of what it costs law enforcement to chase down their non-evidentiary leads.

As a concerned citizen, maybe I will gather signatures to put such an ordinance initiative on a future ballot. Who knows.

When I get back from M.I.S. on Tuesday, maybe we can discuss it further.
CVT6702

AOL

#4 Jun 17, 2013
Dr Obvious wrote:
<quoted text>Any time an investigator or agency staff has to go out and investigate a "find", as reported by citizen searchers -- our tax dollars pay for it. And believe you, me ... when there are hundreds, or even thousands of leads, as in some cases, the price tag really adds up.
Most of the volunteers are good-hearted members of the community who just want to help. But they're not properly trained to help. The search group who wears magic marker imprinted clothing is not properly trained to train them to help.
They need to post a financial collateral in the equivalent of what it costs law enforcement to chase down their non-evidentiary leads.
As a concerned citizen, maybe I will gather signatures to put such an ordinance initiative on a future ballot. Who knows.
They don't have to have much training to search the neighborhood and look in weeds and things like that.
Just the other day law enforcement put out a call for the neighbors to search their yards and buildings on their property to make sure nothing was there that shouldn't be that could be related to the dissappearance of this little girl.
cats1234

Plymouth, MN

#5 Jun 17, 2013
I do wish someone would call in Texas Equusearch. They do have a Chapter in Ohio, but they have to be contacted by the family and invited in the Law Enforcement.
CVT6702

AOL

#6 Jun 17, 2013
I wonder what prompted them in the beginning to search the waters?
Was it because the mother said she found a diaper near the water?
I will assume that is why?
The Tard Whisperer

Portage, MI

#7 Jun 17, 2013
CVT6702 wrote:
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They don't have to have much training to search the neighborhood and look in weeds and things like that.
Just the other day law enforcement put out a call for the neighbors to search their yards and buildings on their property to make sure nothing was there that shouldn't be that could be related to the dissappearance of this little girl.
Yes, law enforcement called on PROPERTY OWNERS to search their own PROPERTIES - because PROPERTY OWNERS will know better than some loosely organized troup of misfits, whether there is anything of a suspicious nature on their properties!

That is just common sense.

Dr Obvious has a point in that anytime a police officer investigates something called in by the troup of misfits & psychics, the taxpayers pay for it - not to mention the resources it diverts away from other investigative efforts.

The citizen volunteers who mean well need to be taking their direction from trained law enforcement and not some wannabe pet detectives w/ t-shirts & magic markers.
The Tard Whisperer

Portage, MI

#8 Jun 17, 2013
cats1234 wrote:
I do wish someone would call in Texas Equusearch. They do have a Chapter in Ohio, but they have to be contacted by the family and invited in the Law Enforcement.
Yes, they eere so effective in finding Caylee Anthony 2 blocks from home.

I don't think these Toledo families can afford to be sued by Texas Equusearch after Texas Equusearch fails to find anything.

I don't think the FBI should let this turn into another circus like the one in Orlando.
Cats1234

Plymouth, MN

#9 Jun 17, 2013
Well Tard Whisperer, if you hold so much animosity towards both search groups and most likely for any others, then why don't you just form your own Search Team and actually help out rather than bashing the voluteers that are truly searching. Just remember, they do search these areas on advice from LE.
The Tard Whisperer

Portage, MI

#10 Jun 17, 2013
Cats1234 wrote:
Well Tard Whisperer, if you hold so much animosity towards both search groups and most likely for any others, then why don't you just form your own Search Team and actually help out rather than bashing the voluteers that are truly searching. Just remember, they do search these areas on advice from LE.
There are a couple of bonafide search groups who I find are of reputable caliber, mainly because they are made up entirely of law enforcement, retired law enforcement, medical professionals and scientists.

The difference between those trained professionals, and wannabe numbskulls like drug-hazed dummies who make up Texas Equusearch & Justice for Nevaeh, is night and day.

I doubt the latter can find a tissue in a kleenex box.
The Tard Whisperer

Portage, MI

#11 Jun 17, 2013
Cats1234 wrote:
Well Tard Whisperer, if you hold so much animosity towards both search groups and most likely for any others, then why don't you just form your own Search Team and actually help out rather than bashing the voluteers that are truly searching. Just remember, they do search these areas on advice from LE.
I will just add that the players who were last in the company of the baby, are not real sophisticated people.
Someone(s) know what happened and someone will talk eventually.
It doesn't take a Philadelphia lawyer to work this one out.
It damn sure doesn't take a blowhard posse like Texas Equusearch.
Klaas says it best

United States

#12 Jun 17, 2013
cats1234 wrote:
I do wish someone would call in Texas Equusearch. They do have a Chapter in Ohio, but they have to be contacted by the family and invited in the Law Enforcement.
Marc Klaas outed Texas Equusearch for the skankbags that they are. Skankbags.

IMO, they're a bunch of drug abusing self-professed psychics & wannabe detectives, trying to make a living on other people's misery. That gors for the founder, too.

I wish there was a law against what they do.
Klaas says it best

United States

#13 Jun 17, 2013
The Tard Whisperer wrote:
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There are a couple of bonafide search groups who I find are of reputable caliber, mainly because they are made up entirely of law enforcement, retired law enforcement, medical professionals and scientists.
The difference between those trained professionals, and wannabe numbskulls like drug-hazed dummies who make up Texas Equusearch & Justice for Nevaeh, is night and day.
I doubt the latter can find a tissue in a kleenex box.
THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE!!!
BRAVO! BRAVO!
ENCORE! ENCORE!

Couldn't have said it better.
Klaas says it best

United States

#14 Jun 17, 2013
Cats1234 wrote:
Well Tard Whisperer, if you hold so much animosity towards both search groups and most likely for any others, then why don't you just form your own Search Team and actually help out rather than bashing the voluteers that are truly searching. Just remember, they do search these areas on advice from LE.
Why should anyone be forming search teams when law enforcement said they were treating the case as an abduction, not a homicide.

That's the problem. People taking the law into their own hands based on non-corroborated assumptions.
It's vigilantism and it should be prosecuted - not further encouraged!
WhiteSoxVsScrubs

United States

#15 Jun 17, 2013
Klaas says it best wrote:
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Why should anyone be forming search teams when law enforcement said they were treating the case as an abduction, not a homicide.
That's the problem. People taking the law into their own hands based on non-corroborated assumptions.
It's vigilantism and it should be prosecuted - not further encouraged!
The FBI is conducting a dive search in the Maumee River, with the assistance of local LE & the Coast Guard.

They don't need that group of ghouls from Michigan who call themselves a search group - or the psychics who swarm in whenever a case makes Headline News - or Texas Equusearch (any chapter).

It looka to me like law enforcement is more than equipped and trained to perform their own searches.
Dr Obvious

La Vergne, TN

#16 Jun 17, 2013
The Tard Whisperer wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, law enforcement called on PROPERTY OWNERS to search their own PROPERTIES - because PROPERTY OWNERS will know better than some loosely organized troup of misfits, whether there is anything of a suspicious nature on their properties!
That is just common sense.
Dr Obvious has a point in that anytime a police officer investigates something called in by the troup of misfits & psychics, the taxpayers pay for it - not to mention the resources it diverts away from other investigative efforts.
The citizen volunteers who mean well need to be taking their direction from trained law enforcement and not some wannabe pet detectives w/ t-shirts & magic markers.
ROFLMAO @ your name "The Tard Whisperer".

That about sums it up, doesn't it?
Dr Obvious

La Vergne, TN

#17 Jun 17, 2013
Cats1234 wrote:
Well Tard Whisperer, if you hold so much animosity towards both search groups and most likely for any others, then why don't you just form your own Search Team and actually help out rather than bashing the voluteers that are truly searching. Just remember, they do search these areas on advice from LE.


Or better yet, people can mind their own business -- and let law enforcement do the job they're paid to do -- without the outside distraction of attention seeking imbeciles.

There's a novel concept!

And why are these imbecile search leaders wearing pictures of this child that were taken when she was alive?
If they're so sure she's a deceased person, then she would look nothing like the vibrant child as depicted in the photos on their clothing, hats and fliers!

DOH~
TexMex

Arlington, TX

#18 Jun 17, 2013
CVT6702 wrote:
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Who are you to criticize people trying to help.
Calling your self Tex-Mex could also be the reason people are prejudice against mexicans, which i am not, but when someone like you labels himself with an ethic group and talks like this you are not a very good role model or good will abassador.

Why don't you choose a different name like mean sucker and have nothing good to say about what someone else is doing while I sit here in my butt and criticize.
Tex-Mex is a sub-specialty cuisine we prepare in our family business, you racist biggot. It has nothing to do with MY ethnicity.

A REAL PSYCHIC would know this.

Now go soak your false teeth and get some sleep, shit-fer-brains.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#19 Jun 17, 2013
TexMex wrote:
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Tex-Mex is a sub-specialty cuisine we prepare in our family business, you racist biggot. It has nothing to do with MY ethnicity.
A REAL PSYCHIC would know this.
Now go soak your false teeth and get some sleep, shit-fer-brains.
Tex,
Please don't let this idiot bother you with racist remarks. I have met many Mexicans and they are the most loving and kind people who would give you the shirt off their back. Every ethnic group has it's shares of idiots. I am white and I wouldn't want to be compared to the white trash who did something to this baby. Maybe she should pull her lips over her head and call it a day.

Since: Jun 13

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#20 Jun 18, 2013
CVT6702 wrote:
I wonder what prompted them in the beginning to search the waters?
Was it because the mother said she found a diaper near the water?
I will assume that is why?
you are the psychic, don't you know????

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