Jehovah's Witnesses try to be inclusive

Jehovah's Witnesses try to be inclusive

There are 2181 comments on the Enquirer-Journal story from Jan 9, 2010, titled Jehovah's Witnesses try to be inclusive. In it, Enquirer-Journal reports that:

Kingdom Hall Jehovaha s Witnesses aim to include everyone. a oeSomething that is outstanding is our unity,a said David Semonian, a spokesman for the church.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Enquirer-Journal.

red blood relative

United States

#21 Jan 11, 2010
CIA Free wrote:
<quoted text>
Hope this helps. It's a link to the private or study copies:
http://www.jw.org/index.html...
Check out the Watchtower March 15, 2010 copy. The first article is about Jehovah's Witnesses being baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the holy spirit. Are they for real? They haven't baptized in that way in decades.
Also check out that beaming Watchtower trademarked idol on page 23. It's supposed to be a fulfillment of this:
They &#8220;Will Shine
as Brightly as the Sun&#8221;
16 At what time do the
wheatlike ones &#8220;shine as
brightly as the sun&#8221;?(Matt.
13:43)
Then you get their goofy 1918 inspection foolishness but this time they leave out the names of the moron and his friends who were locked up but set free again to compose that nonsense.
hey cia....... the jw gov body get informed as to what is being discussed here, and then they write articles to try to do damage control to inoculate their members.

it's all about knowing how to slowly do a clever cover-up while members can't tell what they are doing.
WIZARD

Johnson City, TN

#22 Jan 11, 2010
Gareth wrote:
Here is the article:
== QUOTE:==
INDIAN TRAIL -- Kingdom Hall Jehovah’s Witnesses aim to include everyone.
“Something that is outstanding is our unity,” said David Semonian, a spokesman for the church.“God is not partial, so neither are we.”
During the week they can be seen proselytizing door-to-door and in services they allow everyone a chance to speak.
Racially, they are inclusive as well. The Kingdom Hall church in Indian Trail is so racially divided with Hispanics, blacks and whites that it is impossible to determine which is dominant.
The service itself is fully inclusive as well.
Instead of one person preaching to the congregation, a leader reads passages out of a publication called The Watchtower that is based on a biblical passage and extrapolates lessons from that passage.
A microphone is passed around the room and members of the congregation share their perspectives on the Bible passage or Watchtower lesson. Other members can give reaction to the previous person’s comments or share their own thoughts about the passage.
“We really see the benefit of that pattern of each person expressing their faith where possible,” Semonian said. He pointed to the apostle Paul who called for an “interchange of encouragement” in many of his letters, signifying that the church is meant to be a unified body where all are equal. In fact, there is no clergy/layman distinction, Simonian said, the leaders are considered servants of the church.
After people finish their roundtable, the leader directs the congregation back to The Watchtower and reads a new passage and the discussion begins anew on the new passage.
According to the Jehovah’s Witnesses Web site,“Each congregation tries to reach all the people in its neighborhood with a brief Bible message,” and that includes during the service as well.
Jehovah’s Witness churches do have a group of leaders who travel from church to church, but they do not give long sermons and will typically base them on the discussion to happen later.
Union County has two Jehovah’s Witnesses churches. One in Indian Trail on Chestnut Lane and one in Monroe on Lancaster Avenue.
Will you allow me to also share my perspective with your congregationof JW's on the Bible passages found in your Watchtower lesson or will you escort me out of the kingdom hall when I explain that Grace is like snow -it covers everything and that the cross of Jesus is God's power and wisdom manifested (1 Corinthians 1:18)?
AURORAMOM

United States

#23 Jan 11, 2010
How about if a gay couple comes with their children and they hold hands in the Kingdom Hall, will they be a product of "inclusion"?
isnrblog

Gainesville, FL

#24 Jan 11, 2010
Gareth wrote:
You don't sound much like you were an elder.
Where did you learn the potty mouth after 50 years of speaking with decency?
I WAS an Elder, azzhole. I swore some when I was an Elder and guess what? So did many other Elders.

"Oh, no" Jo Ho's will scream in horror!!! Believe it, deluded jerkweeds.

However, not presently being a Jo Ho I can say phuck you all I want.

It's quite liberating.

Dope.
isnrblog

Gainesville, FL

#25 Jan 11, 2010
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> What a bunch of boloney!
Studying the WT is not studying the bible as the WT takes scripture out of context to fit their doctrine, it is simply the opinion of men that the JW is force to believe on pain of disfellowshipping and lost of family and friends.. The microphone is passed around so JW's can answer the questions in the WT but the answer are printed in the WT so the JW is giving the answers that the WT has printed,like robots. There is no discussion of individual's thoughts for you are not allowed individual thoughts as only what is printed in the WT magazine is acceptable in a forced conformity.
Exactly.

You read the paragraph, ask the question at the bottom and answer from the paragraph, like good little robots.

Since: Feb 09

Zebulon, NC

#26 Jan 11, 2010
red blood relative wrote:
<quoted text>
hey cia....... the jw gov body get informed as to what is being discussed here, and then they write articles to try to do damage control to inoculate their members.
it's all about knowing how to slowly do a clever cover-up while members can't tell what they are doing.
You got it!

One thing about the Watchtower, they have eyes and ears everywhere. they are more efficient than the CIA and their folks are way more loyal....at least until stuff gets leaked.
AURORAMOM

United States

#27 Jan 11, 2010
isnrblog wrote:
<quoted text>
I WAS an Elder, azzhole. I swore some when I was an Elder and guess what? So did many other Elders.
"Oh, no" Jo Ho's will scream in horror!!! Believe it, deluded jerkweeds.
However, not presently being a Jo Ho I can say phuck you all I want.
It's quite liberating.
Dope.
Interesting and says a lot about the JW cult.
It is all just semantics!

Doesn't matter the good works you do or the kind of person you are, all that matters is you use the correct "language"
Of course the WBTS gives its own meaning to words.
Typical of cults.
bookman

Philadelphia, PA

#28 Jan 11, 2010
ROFL at this from that article:

"A microphone is passed around the room and members of the congregation share their perspectives on the Bible passage or Watchtower lesson. Other members can give reaction to the previous person’s comments or share their own thoughts about the passage."

LOLOLOL!!!

what utter crap!

you are to stick to the words in the paragraph, there is no "sharing your own thoughts"

LMAO
Martha

United States

#29 Jan 11, 2010
The public meetings are open to anyone who wants to learn their Bible. There are no collections taken, no one is forced to answer by talking into the microphone and you most certainly can express your own answers. The exact opposite of a cult meeting, which is not open to the public. The wicked apostates should get their facts straight before they post their ignorance of the truth.
AURORAMOM

Darien, IL

#30 Jan 11, 2010
Martha wrote:
The public meetings are open to anyone who wants to learn their Bible. There are no collections taken, no one is forced to answer by talking into the microphone and you most certainly can express your own answers. The exact opposite of a cult meeting, which is not open to the public. The wicked apostates should get their facts straight before they post their ignorance of the truth.
REALLY??
Seems you only go to YOUR cult meetings, not others.
How do you think cults get new members???
They ALL recruit, love bomb, and fool new members into believing they are "family"
So if a gay family came to the Kingdom Hall they would be welcomed with open arms, right Martha??
Umm You lie!
isnrblog

Gainesville, FL

#31 Jan 11, 2010
Martha wrote:
The public meetings are open to anyone who wants to learn their Bible. There are no collections taken, no one is forced to answer by talking into the microphone and you most certainly can express your own answers. The exact opposite of a cult meeting, which is not open to the public. The wicked apostates should get their facts straight before they post their ignorance of the truth.
Hey, Martha, at the next Watchtower Study, raise your hand and as why the Society published this:

From: The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah - How? 1971 p. 216”

”Shortly, within our twentieth century, the “battle in the day of Jehovah” will begin”.

Ask why this never happened? See what happens, just for kicks.

Since: Feb 09

Zebulon, NC

#32 Jan 11, 2010
Jehovah's Witnesses do have meetings that the public are welcomed to come and LISTEN to but not participate. Before anyone who is not a Witness is permitted to speak on a regular basis, they must meet certain requirements by the Society.

Those who come to visit but who clearly have different views than the Witnesses are never allowed to share them with those present DURING the meetings. I once saw a gentleman from our territory raise his hand to comment on every other paragraph during the Watchtower study. He had his own personal views of what the Bible says but he was totally harmless. I even stood next to and pointed at him. I even put the mike in his hand and the conductor still wouldn't call on him.

I apologized to the man afterward. He said it wasn't a problem but perhaps he needed to actually be a Witness first. I told him that it wouldn't surprise me if he chose not to come back.

There is no OPEN discussion at the kingdom hall. In fact, the instructions from the Governing Body are clear that all comments should be from what is written in the material but should be in your own words.

How long would a person be allowed to come and speak if he confesses both God and Jesus Christ but openly spoke against the Governing Body?

Why PASS a collection plate when you are forced to PASS by a contribution box?
Bart Jon Simpson

United States

#33 Jan 11, 2010
All cults make statements of exclusivity. That includes the JW's, the adventists, the mormons, christian scientists, scientoligists, Jim Jones'rs, and even the catholics.

More subtle are the claims of Calvary Chapel, Foursquare, some sects of Baptists, and Churches of Christ.

Most of the cults have two sources of authority. Jesus said if you had two masters, you would love one and despise the other. Cults cannot quite see how they violate that command. I guess it is only for the regenerate to see.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#34 Jan 12, 2010
Martha wrote:
The public meetings are open to anyone who wants to learn their Bible. There are no collections taken, no one is forced to answer by talking into the microphone and you most certainly can express your own answers. The exact opposite of a cult meeting, which is not open to the public. The wicked apostates should get their facts straight before they post their ignorance of the truth.
Why can't you question anything they say is truth Martha?
Why do they not pass the plate? Because they ask for "donations" very often during the thursday night meetings when they know that only JW's will be in attendance.
If you were to go to a meeting and take the mircophone and start saying something about proof of the GB appointment, you would be ask to leave immediately and have that mic jerked from your hands so fast it would be like a lighting strike.
What I would suggest is that maybe you get your facts straight before calling anyone a wicked apostate.
columbo

Morris, IL

#35 Jan 12, 2010
AURORAMOM wrote:
<quoted text>
REALLY??
Seems you only go to YOUR cult meetings, not others.
How do you think cults get new members???
They ALL recruit, love bomb, and fool new members into believing they are "family"
So if a gay family came to the Kingdom Hall they would be welcomed with open arms, right Martha??
Umm You lie!
Hey Amom, I think the GB would have the gay couple shipped to the wt hq's where the GB will have a homo party with the gay couple til the cow's come home!!!!
Martha

United States

#36 Jan 12, 2010
Ex-Jehovah's witnesses or I should say rejects of Jehovah should not be shown any pity or consideration, they fight against Jehovah's arrangement because of their true father, the Devil.

(John 8:44). . .YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie].

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#37 Jan 12, 2010
CIA Free wrote:
<quoted text>
Hope this helps. It's a link to the private or study copies:
http://www.jw.org/index.html...
Check out the Watchtower March 15, 2010 copy. The first article is about Jehovah's Witnesses being baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the holy spirit. Are they for real? They haven't baptized in that way in decades.
Also check out that beaming Watchtower trademarked idol on page 23. It's supposed to be a fulfillment of this:
They “Will Shine
as Brightly as the Sun”
16 At what time do the
wheatlike ones “shine as
brightly as the sun”?(Matt.
13:43)
Then you get their goofy 1918 inspection foolishness but this time they leave out the names of the moron and his friends who were locked up but set free again to compose that nonsense.
Just fyi CIA,
I was baptized that way and the last several that I was present for also. They asked do you understand that this identifies you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses and then.. you are baptized in name of f, s, and holy sp.
Carly

Somerset, KY

#38 Jan 12, 2010
AURORAMOM wrote:
<quoted text>
REALLY??
Seems you only go to YOUR cult meetings, not others.
How do you think cults get new members???
They ALL recruit, love bomb, and fool new members into believing they are "family"
So if a gay family came to the Kingdom Hall they would be welcomed with open arms, right Martha??
Umm You lie!
Why would a gay family want to attend a Kingdom Hall, where they know their same sex lifestyle will not be accepted?

On the hand, if they were to decide to leave that sinful lifestyle, I'm sure they would be welcome.
isnrblog

Ocala, FL

#39 Jan 12, 2010
AURORAMOM wrote:
How about if a gay couple comes with their children and they hold hands in the Kingdom Hall, will they be a product of "inclusion"?
LOL! Good point.
Carly

Somerset, KY

#40 Jan 12, 2010
correction to above; On the other hand,

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Matthews Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Watch the heat 1 hr TIME 1
Unchecked apartment building. 16 hr moplus 1
Hidden Fees 18 hr Lama 2
Shiloh Trace HOA (Nov '13) 23 hr PNorkett 3
Are All Yankee's Jerks or do the just ACT that ... (Jul '09) Sun anyone 306
B&B HVAC Indian Trail Sun BBhvacLIARS 2
News Heroin problem spreading in Charlotte (Apr '13) May '16 mooksmom 18

Matthews Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Matthews Mortgages