only a fool

Dexter, MO

#62 Aug 15, 2012
would strike. Oh there are plenty of them around here. When its all said and done those who work there could be given a rainbow and still bitch about it. Let'm cry and whine, we know there options! As for threats of violence etc. you really think the company wouldn't close this plant if they strike? They will and thats why the gang won't strike those of us in the know including company know there will not be a strike.
seems

Jackson, MO

#63 Aug 15, 2012
there isn't much information being given to the employees at this point.
scabs

United States

#64 Aug 15, 2012
Being a scab isn't something you want to be at Noranda. This isn't a threat by no means its just common sence. It takes a stronge hard working man to even do the work at noranda. You take a man who has worked years in the conditions he has had to work then take the food out of his childrens mouths its not going to be a plesant sight. When things are being taken away from him he is going to start to snap! It may be true that there will be shelter set up for you but who is going to protect your families? The police? I doubt it because the union brothers were behind Stevens. Debbies husband is also a union brother so you would directly be attacking the families in charge. I'm sure there will be some arrests but a lot of stuff will slide. There will even be more fights in schools with the children. I'm not saying any of this is right because its not! Its just the way its going to be! Its the American way, people have gone crazy with this economy!! Think before you scab!!!!
conditions

Farmington, MO

#65 Aug 15, 2012
Unless you work there you don't know the conditions these people work in. Everyone complained about the heat this summer.....add that to the heat inside that plant. Very extreme.
So you

Dexter, MO

#66 Aug 15, 2012
saying that the sheriff and debbie's husband are crooked? Sounds like it. You don't have to worry about scabs. The plant will close if theres a strike and all current employees will be out of a job. There will still be violence because thats how folks who can't handle the truth deal with it. If your lucky and have a corrupt sheriff as you describe(stevens) in your back pocket you may be able to just kill off some of us who have good jobs and then you can move right in and take over.
ps. I dont think the sheriff wants you to be spreading he's "crooked" on here or anywhere. It doesn't make Noranda employees look good either, especially those who abide by the law.
scabs

United States

#67 Aug 15, 2012
You took what I said wrong! On the big stuff they will have no choice but to take action while Small bs will slide by. I'm not saying its right but its what I feel will happen. Afterall they did allow a man to be killed on his time. I could really careless about Terry Debbie or Noranda. I just hate to see innocent people getting hurt. If I was involved in any of this would I be brave enough to make my comment? HELL NO!
Laughter

United States

#68 Aug 15, 2012
The plant won't shut down it will will continue running business as normal. The Sherrif or his wife have nothing to do with this... All of the negotiations are pushed down from franklin......its all dependent one who wants what and who I'd willing to accept the offErs
guest

Gideon, MO

#69 Aug 15, 2012
Why would anyone think the plant will close??? The company does not make any money if the plant closes, and I'm sure that is their main focus. Seems to me that the company would do everything possible to keep the plant running regardless of any strike.
guest

Saint Louis, MO

#70 Aug 15, 2012
man you talking about some dumb azzes, a strike is a strike, a scab is a scab for life, a piece of sh_t for a person. It is not fun, it has no happy ending in the short term, but may have for young people down the road. If it wasn't for unions the farm hands would still be making $2.50 an hour. Other people would not get overtime for over 40 hours, You would not have a 40 hr work week. Corp,,, has driven prices up with stock give aways, bonuses in the millions, retirement pays in the millons.
if my

Dexter, MO

#71 Aug 16, 2012
guest wrote:
man you talking about some dumb azzes, a strike is a strike, a scab is a scab for life, a piece of sh_t for a person. It is not fun, it has no happy ending in the short term, but may have for young people down the road. If it wasn't for unions the farm hands would still be making $2.50 an hour. Other people would not get overtime for over 40 hours, You would not have a 40 hr work week. Corp,,, has driven prices up with stock give aways, bonuses in the millions, retirement pays in the millons.
aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. If if if if. We shall all bow to the unions, NOT ! Just another Corporate hater. Just remember hope and change, and keep voting Dumbacrat. Keep blaming the corp. and the people who employ america all the while putting unions on a pedestal. Keep telling all your union brothers how wonderful you are and he will agree until you walk away.
well

Dexter, MO

#72 Aug 16, 2012
Money wrote:
Say what you want, but it's not about money this time. Everyone out there firmly believes they make good money and are generally happy. What they're going for is maintaining seniority rights, the company combining jobs to circumvent seniority and probably retirement/benefits. Since 89 the employees have lost more than gained in contract negotiations. Anything considered a "gain" was not a gain, but more along the lines of "the company let them keep it"
Too many people out there live beyond their means and abuse the purpose of union brotherhood. Going on strike used to be a unified stand for what they believed was right. Now it's a struggle between those who live responsibly and those who keep up with the Jonses. No wonder people have a negative outlook on labor unions, it's a mixture of jealously and ignorance.
And whoever said there's someone waiting to step in... They're called SCABS.
Never quite understood the union workers crying about the scabs. They always said the scabs took their jobs when the steelworkers were the ones who voted to strike. Then while they were on strike they would go work somewhere else which in my opinion took a job which kept someone else from having that job! I realize that you have to stand up for things you believe in but most Noranda workers complain about their job but will not walk away from there.
its

Dexter, MO

#73 Aug 16, 2012
well wrote:
<quoted text>
Never quite understood the union workers crying about the scabs. They always said the scabs took their jobs when the steelworkers were the ones who voted to strike. Then while they were on strike they would go work somewhere else which in my opinion took a job which kept someone else from having that job! I realize that you have to stand up for things you believe in but most Noranda workers complain about their job but will not walk away from there.
all about them. They are the only hard workers and they have set the standard for the rest of us peons.
They divert from the real issues. If they wanna make a better USA they should be for Job creation and this in turn will make it a employees world rather the current employer world. Instead they promote politicians who keep the working man under their control.
Someone previously posted, they believe Noranda would close this plant if the workers choose to strike. I agree, however hope this isn't the case. The workers even as brazen as they are have an employer who provides this community with peace of mind. The company does this not the union. Everybody has their own nitch, nurses, firefighters,babysitters etc. they all work hard just under different conditions. The employees at Noranda think they and only they work the hardest cause of the conditions. Just listen to them!
coyote

United States

#74 Aug 16, 2012
just remember when u cross the picket line ur a SCAB !!! alot of friendships will be destroyed,

if u wanna work at noranda wait until after
the srike there gonna be hiring thye already approved a 40 million dollar expansion of another rod mill!! please dont cross the picket lines friends!!!
WC fields
#75 Aug 16, 2012
U dumb republicans look what G.W. Bush did to white collar workers who do not have a union NO overtime pay think about that u tea baggers.!
hey

Saint Louis, MO

#76 Aug 16, 2012
coyote wrote:
just remember when u cross the picket line ur a SCAB !!! alot of friendships will be destroyed,
if u wanna work at noranda wait until after
the srike there gonna be hiring thye already approved a 40 million dollar expansion of another rod mill!! please dont cross the picket lines friends!!!
they will cross that line dont matter if they r u friend r u neighbor they will do it they have done it before
Wondering
#77 Aug 16, 2012
scabs wrote:
Being a scab isn't something you want to be at Noranda. This isn't a threat by no means its just common sence. It takes a stronge hard working man to even do the work at noranda. You take a man who has worked years in the conditions he has had to work then take the food out of his childrens mouths its not going to be a plesant sight. When things are being taken away from him he is going to start to snap! It may be true that there will be shelter set up for you but who is going to protect your Ofamilies? The police? I doubt it because the union brothers were behind Stevens. Debbies husband is also a union brother so you would directly be attacking the families in charge. I'm sure there will be some arrests but a lot of stuff will slide. There will even be more fights in schools with the children. I'm not saying any of this is right because its not! Its just the way its going to be! Its the American way, people have gone crazy with this economy!! Think before you scab!!!!
Think before you post! Debbie's husband hasn't worked at noranda in awhile. He quit about 3 years ago!
Wondering

United States

#78 Aug 16, 2012
conditions wrote:
Unless you work there you don't know the conditions these people work in. Everyone complained about the heat this summer.....add that to the heat inside that plant. Very extreme.
A strike isn't gonna stop the heat. They make aluminum! It's gonna be hot in there!
Wondering

United States

#79 Aug 16, 2012
The last time they went on strike the state patrol was there. They don't mess with depending on the local law to do anything
Wondering
#80 Aug 16, 2012
seems wrote:
there isn't much information being given to the employees at this point.
Shouldn't their union president be keeping them informed? That's another joke. Ivie is worthless, all he knows how to do is run his mouth, been to the boat dock lately Stan!????? Lol
what
#81 Aug 16, 2012
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>Shouldn't their union president be keeping them informed? That's another joke. Ivie is worthless, all he knows how to do is run his mouth, been to the boat dock lately Stan!????? Lol
how can he keep anyone informed he dont know anything himself

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