Cultural Trail finds its 'Marbles'

Cultural Trail finds its 'Marbles'

There are 24 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Apr 24, 2007, titled Cultural Trail finds its 'Marbles'. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

A local artist has been chosen to create a giant game of marbles on an eastern portion of the Indianapolis Cultural Trail, a planned 7.5-mile bicycle and pedestrian path that will connect the city's Downtown ...

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tarzan

Fishers, IN

#1 Apr 25, 2007
funny how we can raise 50 million for a stupid trail, yet we cant take care of the homeless and abused women and children. 50 million is a lot of money! just think what we could do for the people who are suffering. thats society for you. we can build huge football stadiums at the taxpayers expense, have fancy sidewalks, all which mean nothing in the end.
bitter

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Apr 25, 2007
its quality of life tarzan, something you obviously do not have much of given your continually negative and bitter comments on these forums about virtually everything.
Wow

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Apr 25, 2007
Whatever, not all of us care about the homeless. I think all the homeless people downtown will enjoy walking on the trail.

Abused women and children have lots of resources available to them once they get out of those negative situations. I'd be willing to bet that most women that are being abused stay with the guy (or girl) that is abusing them BECAUSE they have kids with the guys who are abusing them. And, it is the job of law enforcement, teachers and other concerned citizens to report child abuse once they see it. Then those kids end up in better homes because of a wonderful foster care system we have that actually pays people to take care of neglected, abused, abandoned kids at the tax payer expense.

Since I don't have kids, am not abusing any women and am actually tired of seeing homeless people making our streets ugly in the first place, I'm glad the city is going to do something to make the city look and feel nice for the rest of us who haven't lived lives that put us at risk for abuse or homelessness. So, get over yourself and donate your money to the julian center or to the Wheeler mission and let it go.
Go Bart Go

Kendallville, IN

#4 Apr 25, 2007
tarzan wrote:
funny how we can raise 50 million for a stupid trail, yet we cant take care of the homeless and abused women and children. 50 million is a lot of money! just think what we could do for the people who are suffering. thats society for you. we can build huge football stadiums at the taxpayers expense, have fancy sidewalks, all which mean nothing in the end.
You've got that right. My 8-year old could have come up with this stupid marbles thing and it would have cost a lot less! What's next? A giant game of dominoes?

You have to admit that 50 million to widen the sidewalks, take away a parking lane and place stupid marbles on the sidewalk is a HUGE waste of time, effort and money.

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

#5 Apr 25, 2007
Tarzan = C.A.V.E

Citizens Against Virtually Everything!
Kumar

Tipton, IN

#6 Apr 25, 2007
tarzan wrote:
funny how we can raise 50 million for a stupid trail, yet we cant take care of the homeless and abused women and children.
It's a good thing you're not in office. I would fear for the rest of us if you could only work on one thing at a time....let's spend all our money on this, no no, let's spend all our money on that. Do you spend your whole paycheck on a large credit card balance and neglect car,rent,utility payments? The trail, stadium, etc are things that draw people with an education and $$ to a city. The more residents and tourists with $$ to spend here and be taxed on, the more taxes that go back into helping the less fortunate.
mulitasking...it's fun..try it sometime.
indiana

Reston, VA

#7 Apr 25, 2007
this is a great project and even better that they kick-started it with a herron graduate! onions to all of the naysayers - we live once on this earth and i want to enjoy it to the fullest. this is all private money and if that's what they want to spend their money on, i'm going to take advantage and enjoy it. i've given plenty of money and time to many causes, so it's time to enjoy a better quality of life with a project like this. this is a unique project and will do wonders for indianapolis.
indiana

Reston, VA

#9 Apr 25, 2007
Go Bart Go wrote:
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You've got that right. My 8-year old could have come up with this stupid marbles thing and it would have cost a lot less! What's next? A giant game of dominoes?
You have to admit that 50 million to widen the sidewalks, take away a parking lane and place stupid marbles on the sidewalk is a HUGE waste of time, effort and money.
wow, who peed in your cereal this morning? one reason this country is entirely overweight is because of thought processes like yours. here we have a great project being built for us by private money, and you want to b$#%* and moan that they are going to away a parking lane? get a life.
danindy

Dayton, OH

#10 Apr 25, 2007
Go Bart Go wrote:
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You've got that right. My 8-year old could have come up with this stupid marbles thing and it would have cost a lot less! What's next? A giant game of dominoes?
You have to admit that 50 million to widen the sidewalks, take away a parking lane and place stupid marbles on the sidewalk is a HUGE waste of time, effort and money.
If you don't like it, move someplace else! As for the ills of society, there are PLENTY of programs, but most of the people they are aimed at do not want the help. You can't twist peoples arms and make them do something they do not want. So shut up with the negative comments on wasting taxpayer $$$!!!!
Jennifer

Bargersville, IN

#11 Apr 25, 2007
I agree that a stadium is a huge waste of our taxes - that money would be better allocated to education, fighting homelessness and other key issues.

BUT there is a major difference that you are obviously not recognizing: FUNDING FOR THE CULTURAL TRAIL IS NOT COMING FROM YOUR TAXES.

From The Indianapolis Star: "The estimated cost for the trail is $50 million. Two-thirds of that has been raised, and planners hope to get the rest from foundations, corporations and private donors."

If you were to review the list of donors you would see a list of people and organizations who support Indianapolis in a variety of ways and for a vast number of causes.

The cultural trail is designed for everyone. By widening the sidewalks we are making our city more pedestrian-friendly. We are encouraging a healthy way of living - by riding bicycles to work or for fun, walking around town and simply being outside. Losing parking spaces or a traffic lane is a little sacrifice for a much greater service to the city.

We must begin to prioritize the health of our cities and this is only one little thing that is being done.

The cultural trail is a walkable and livable is a great thing.

If you want to make a difference in the areas you have mentioned (which do need our help - homelessness, education, there are too many to list) there are a lot of organizations in Indianapolis that do good work and would love your time or money.
Born Right the First Time

United States

#12 Apr 25, 2007
It's private money... they can donate money to anything they want. I like the idea of a bike/walking/running lane. Whats up with that tarzan? I wish we would have more private/public funding projects like this. If we could just get something like this off the ground once a year we could really make our inner city a viable place to live.
Chris

United States

#13 Apr 25, 2007
Go Bart Go wrote:
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You've got that right. My 8-year old could have come up with this stupid marbles thing and it would have cost a lot less! What's next? A giant game of dominoes?
You have to admit that 50 million to widen the sidewalks, take away a parking lane and place stupid marbles on the sidewalk is a HUGE waste of time, effort and money.
My response to you:

These are private companies and people using their money and time to invest in a wonderful public amenity for the local community.

If you think it is a bad idea, then do two things:(1) Don't donate money to it, and (2) Stay off the trail when it is completed and millions of other people annually enjoy using it. It's really that simple.

Also, if you care about other issues, then please follow the lead of millions of other Americans by donating your own time and money to whatever issues/causes you think are worthwile.
CorrND

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Apr 25, 2007
Jennifer wrote:
I agree that a stadium is a huge waste of our taxes - that money would be better allocated to education, fighting homelessness and other key issues.
BUT there is a major difference that you are obviously not recognizing: FUNDING FOR THE CULTURAL TRAIL IS NOT COMING FROM YOUR TAXES.
Thank you! Someone needed to point this out. This is just like the Super Bowl bid that everyone thought was being paid for with taxes.

This trail is going to be an amazing asset when it's done and it won't have cost taxpayers a dime.
Chris

United States

#15 Apr 25, 2007
tarzan wrote:
me me me me me me me me me attitudes. just as i suspected. hey dipshcit, if we took care of the homeless people they wouldnt be on our streets making them "ugly" i donate a gazillion dollars every year, so bite my butt. hey bitter, your darn right i make negative comments on virtually everything. its called contrasting. your one way mind is petite and Neanderthal like. let me slow it down for you....you.....are.....stu...p id... did you catch that?
Tarzan, your comments are childish and poorly written. More importantly, if you think you are persuading anyone to your point of view with your petulant (and sarcastic) tone, then you are sadly misguided. However, I suspect that you are like most people who post obviously provocative remarks in that you don't really care about the topic so much as you do about getting a rise out of other people.

Many people give their money and their time to the worthy causes you mentioned, and if you truly cared about those issues, then you would already have your sleeves rolled up doing good work rather than posting snarky comments on the Star's message boards.

Finally, the Cultural Trail will be a wonderful public amenity for the local community once it is completed. Furthermore, most of the donors who are contributing to help fund the construction and maintenance of the Trail regularly give millions (and even hundreds of millions) of dollars to numerous other causes and projects, and in most cases, their donations to these other causes and projects are far larger than any sum they are contributing to the Cultural Trail.
Go Bart Go

Indianapolis, IN

#16 Apr 25, 2007
indiana wrote:
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wow, who peed in your cereal this morning? one reason this country is entirely overweight is because of thought processes like yours. here we have a great project being built for us by private money, and you want to b$#%* and moan that they are going to away a parking lane? get a life.
Gee, Indiana, I didn't know that different opinions were so horrible. As for my thought processes, I ride my bicycle as much as I can. Do you ride your bike 20 miles a day on the weekdays and 50 - 60 miles on the weekends? Just because I think it's a waste of money doesn't mean that you get to b$#%* me out and say I don't have a life.
Go Bart Go

Kendallville, IN

#17 Apr 25, 2007
Chris wrote:
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My response to you:
These are private companies and people using their money and time to invest in a wonderful public amenity for the local community.
If you think it is a bad idea, then do two things:(1) Don't donate money to it, and (2) Stay off the trail when it is completed and millions of other people annually enjoy using it. It's really that simple.
Also, if you care about other issues, then please follow the lead of millions of other Americans by donating your own time and money to whatever issues/causes you think are worthwile.
Dear Chris,

Yes I DO know it's private money. How much money did you donate to causes last year? My tax return shows well over $4,000 of cash and non cash contributions WITH receipts to prove it.

I will stay off the trail, because it's not conducive to riding a bike without running into people. Just because I don't like something that others call "Art", doesn't mean that I am some jerk that does not try to better the community.
BrightBlue

AOL

#18 Apr 25, 2007
This cultural trail is really gonna be a hoot. Bikes will have to stop at every intersection. AND just like every other trail/sidewalk in the city...(1.) People will get beaten and/or mugged (2.) 14 year old girls will get raped.
Why didn't the Glicks donate money to improve the police department? That would have been a REAL legacy.
tarzan

Fishers, IN

#19 Apr 25, 2007
me no edumacted. me views are dummy. me noe its private money. me thinks private money can be raised to fund other important issues. me cant multitask. me poor, cant make money. me go back to me tree and hide in shame.
Go Trail Go

Kansas City, MO

#20 Apr 25, 2007
Cool idea. Like the Marbles, too. The Trail will be awesome. One thought, Trail planners - please make the Marbles out of cleanable materials, or somehow impervious to graffiti and "tagging" - it's a growing problem in downtown Indianapolis, and if the Marbles aren't scrubbable, they will be ruined quickly.
FYI

Indianapolis, IN

#21 Apr 25, 2007
The trail has SEPARATED bike and pedestrian lanes. You won't run into people.
Go Bart Go wrote:
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Dear Chris,
Yes I DO know it's private money. How much money did you donate to causes last year? My tax return shows well over $4,000 of cash and non cash contributions WITH receipts to prove it.
I will stay off the trail, because it's not conducive to riding a bike without running into people. Just because I don't like something that others call "Art", doesn't mean that I am some jerk that does not try to better the community.

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