Ohio to begin crackdown on exotic ani...

Ohio to begin crackdown on exotic animal ownership

There are 20 comments on the Cincinnati.com story from Sep 4, 2012, titled Ohio to begin crackdown on exotic animal ownership. In it, Cincinnati.com reports that:

In this Aug. 25, 2010 file photo, "Noah", left, and "Layla" prowl their enclosure at Stump Hill Farm in Massillon, Ohio.

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Spookisbacksoblo wmetrolls

Toledo, OH

#1 Sep 5, 2012
More tax payer money wasted to solve a non problem
SpooksAdouche

Canton, OH

#2 Sep 6, 2012
Funny how only nutballs and drug dealers are the ones who think they can own tigers and cobras as pets. Leave the exotic animal handling to the pros. That way us taxpayers don't have to see living examples of your ego ending up dead on the side of the road, walking though our neighborhoods or being put down because of your neglect or insanity. Get over yourself. No one thinks you are that special.
boopie

Columbus, OH

#3 Sep 6, 2012
Does that mean all of the monkeys in Columbus will go away?
Spookisbacksoblo wmetrolls

Toledo, OH

#4 Sep 6, 2012
SpooksAdouche wrote:
Funny how only nutballs and drug dealers are the ones who think they can own tigers and cobras as pets. Leave the exotic animal handling to the pros. That way us taxpayers don't have to see living examples of your ego ending up dead on the side of the road, walking though our neighborhoods or being put down because of your neglect or insanity. Get over yourself. No one thinks you are that special.
how many puma bobcat or ocelot attacks have there been? Two of three roam freely in Ohio. Far more inocent people die from police shooting the wrong person than from tiger attcks. Maybe you should pull your head out of Jack Hanna's a^s before jumping on a band wagon.
SpooksAdouche

Canton, OH

#5 Sep 9, 2012
Spookisbacksoblowmetrolls wrote:
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how many puma bobcat or ocelot attacks have there been? Two of three roam freely in Ohio. Far more inocent people die from police shooting the wrong person than from tiger attcks. Maybe you should pull your head out of Jack Hanna's a^s before jumping on a band wagon.
Maybe you should stop thinking you are so special that you can own something that was never meant to be a pet? That whole drug dealer comment must of really hit home with you. We'll file you under kook, right next to doomsday preppers and hoarders.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#6 Sep 9, 2012
Spookisbacksoblowmetrolls wrote:
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how many puma bobcat or ocelot attacks have there been? Two of three roam freely in Ohio. Far more inocent people die from police shooting the wrong person than from tiger attcks. Maybe you should pull your head out of Jack Hanna's a^s before jumping on a band wagon.
Actually, Spook, there are a lot of folks here who do obtain "exotic" animals--tigers, apes, etc. There's a huge black market for endangered species.

All reality, I'm far from an animal rights activist. Eat meat, have pets, wear leather, animals have no rights in my book. But I think the state took advantage of the Zanesville situation to put this law in place to crack down on the importation of these animals. Bengal tigers, endangered in the wild, were killed in Zanesville.

Hanna? He's a PR hound. But I also have a problem with folks importing these animals -- a lot of them don't seem to have the resources to care for them (as was shown, I think, in the Zanesville situation) and they're feeding an illegal blackmarket with no regard to conservation of endangered species (something I do support). The first years' cost of this program was estimated to be no more than $720K. A drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on investigating wrong shootings, prosecuting pedos, etc. Plus the program should pay for itself--owners are required to pay for the permits as well has hold liability insurance. It's a non-issue in my view.
Spookisbacksoblo wmetrolls

Toledo, OH

#7 Sep 9, 2012
gokeefe wrote:
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Actually, Spook, there are a lot of folks here who do obtain "exotic" animals--tigers, apes, etc. There's a huge black market for endangered species.
All reality, I'm far from an animal rights activist. Eat meat, have pets, wear leather, animals have no rights in my book. But I think the state took advantage of the Zanesville situation to put this law in place to crack down on the importation of these animals. Bengal tigers, endangered in the wild, were killed in Zanesville.
Hanna? He's a PR hound. But I also have a problem with folks importing these animals -- a lot of them don't seem to have the resources to care for them (as was shown, I think, in the Zanesville situation) and they're feeding an illegal blackmarket with no regard to conservation of endangered species (something I do support). The first years' cost of this program was estimated to be no more than $720K. A drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on investigating wrong shootings, prosecuting pedos, etc. Plus the program should pay for itself--owners are required to pay for the permits as well has hold liability insurance. It's a non-issue in my view.
There are small scarce but enraged cats on this list that people could feed and nurse to health that now thanks to and ever over bearing government will not get that care because it is not affordable. When the government requires something to be insured it is like giving insurance companie a license to print money.. the an^s eater above can't see a difference between a wolf or bobcat and full grown Polar bear in heat.
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#8 Sep 9, 2012
Spookisbacksoblowmetrolls wrote:
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There are small scarce but enraged cats on this list that people could feed and nurse to health that now thanks to and ever over bearing government will not get that care because it is not affordable. When the government requires something to be insured it is like giving insurance companie a license to print money.. the an^s eater above can't see a difference between a wolf or bobcat and full grown Polar bear in heat.
Only self absorbed douchebags want own bobcats or wolves for pets. One big look at me. Get over yourself, tiny Elvis. Time and time again we see owners of these animals more concerned about their image, than the actual care of the animals. The fact that most of these kooks show signs of OCD, pretty much sums up what kind of a person even wants to own these animals, solely as pets. The same kind of people that have a hundred piercings in their face, or let their hair or fingernails grow to some absurd length, are the same kind of people who own exotic animals. One big look at how special I am. My wife just saw an exotic cat laying dead in the street a few weeks ago. It was in the papers. So much for the non-issue you were blabbering about.
QWA

Sugarcreek, OH

#9 Sep 9, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
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Only self absorbed douchebags want own bobcats or wolves for pets. One big look at me. Get over yourself, tiny Elvis. Time and time again we see owners of these animals more concerned about their image, than the actual care of the animals. The fact that most of these kooks show signs of OCD, pretty much sums up what kind of a person even wants to own these animals, solely as pets. The same kind of people that have a hundred piercings in their face, or let their hair or fingernails grow to some absurd length, are the same kind of people who own exotic animals. One big look at how special I am. My wife just saw an exotic cat laying dead in the street a few weeks ago. It was in the papers. So much for the non-issue you were blabbering about.
I don't have a problem with people owning these animals as long as they provide the same facilities that a zoo does.

But given that zoos are money pits I don't think we need any more of them.

And I would like to see an end to those piercing freaks, I can't figure out how than many piercings doesn't give you some kind of cancer.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#10 Sep 10, 2012
Spookisbacksoblowmetrolls wrote:
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There are small scarce but enraged cats on this list that people could feed and nurse to health that now thanks to and ever over bearing government will not get that care because it is not affordable. When the government requires something to be insured it is like giving insurance companie a license to print money.. the an^s eater above can't see a difference between a wolf or bobcat and full grown Polar bear in heat.
I'm listening. Please explain further how you think that exotic pet ownership helps endangered animals.

I don't really imagine that without the exotic pet trade that there would be many exotics in Ohio in need of being nursed back the health?

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#12 Sep 10, 2012
In Gambier some years back there was a case of a woman who believed herself to be helping the cause of endangered siberian tigers by purchasing them, declawing them and keeping them caged on her property. This being a pretty expensive endeavor, she rented the animals out for "close enounters," allowing people into the cage for petting, picture-taking and the like. A few folks were injured, bringing to light the fact that Ohio had precious little in the way of regulation for this sort of thing.

The other thing that was brought to light was that it's very difficult to find a place for such animals when their owners find they can no longer stand the expense or care for the adult animals. I believe that those particular tigers remained in Ohio while the owner explored a variety of ways to make them pay (providing classes for OSU veterinary school, establishing a private charity to accept donations). Despite the fact that I believe that she was no longer supposed to providing the public encounters, I seem to recall a blip on a news show that took a hidden camera around to show that she was still doing it.

Finally she was evicted from the property and I think that the animals were sent to various large-animal shelters around the country.

Long-story short, buying large exotic animals is pets is no way to fight extinction.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#14 Sep 10, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
In Gambier some years back there was a case of a woman who believed herself to be helping the cause of endangered siberian tigers by purchasing them, declawing them and keeping them caged on her property. This being a pretty expensive endeavor, she rented the animals out for "close enounters," allowing people into the cage for petting, picture-taking and the like. A few folks were injured, bringing to light the fact that Ohio had precious little in the way of regulation for this sort of thing.
The other thing that was brought to light was that it's very difficult to find a place for such animals when their owners find they can no longer stand the expense or care for the adult animals. I believe that those particular tigers remained in Ohio while the owner explored a variety of ways to make them pay (providing classes for OSU veterinary school, establishing a private charity to accept donations). Despite the fact that I believe that she was no longer supposed to providing the public encounters, I seem to recall a blip on a news show that took a hidden camera around to show that she was still doing it.
Finally she was evicted from the property and I think that the animals were sent to various large-animal shelters around the country.
Long-story short, buying large exotic animals is pets is no way to fight extinction.
in Detroit they were raising Beagles; but they ate them all.
Spookisbacksoblo wmetrolls

Taylor, MI

#15 Sep 10, 2012
tranpsosition wrote:
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I'm listening. Please explain further how you think that exotic pet ownership helps endangered animals.
I don't really imagine that without the exotic pet trade that there would be many exotics in Ohio in need of being nursed back the health?
I am not talking about exotics but indigenous cats to North America. And not as pets just raising abondon little ones and reLeasing them. With this Law it will be veru expensive for some people I know who have raised bobcats several times and then released. ODNR officers have asked them to in the past.

By no means am I saying people should not have secure areas for the existing "pets" when it comes to apes baboons tigers bears etc.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#16 Sep 10, 2012
Spookisbacksoblowmetrolls wrote:
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There are small scarce but enraged cats on this list that people could feed and nurse to health that now thanks to and ever over bearing government will not get that care because it is not affordable. When the government requires something to be insured it is like giving insurance companie a license to print money.. the an^s eater above can't see a difference between a wolf or bobcat and full grown Polar bear in heat.
LOL.

I do get your point.

If wildlife rangers asked a citizen to hand raise a bobcat or other small endangered animal, would there be a chance that the state park system or ODNR provide some type of help with that situation? Cool animals, I know they're out there in SE Ohio.

Are there a lot of abandoned baby bobcats out there?
Spookisbacksoblo wmetrolls

Taylor, MI

#17 Sep 11, 2012
gokeefe wrote:
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LOL.
I do get your point.
If wildlife rangers asked a citizen to hand raise a bobcat or other small endangered animal, would there be a chance that the state park system or ODNR provide some type of help with that situation? Cool animals, I know they're out there in SE Ohio.
Are there a lot of abandoned baby bobcats out there?
Not a lot but I know one couple that rsises a litter of bobcat about every other year. Nice couple work for a Honda parts supplier. Good income but not good enough to throw away money.
As for the guy in Zanesville area that killed himself after letting his animals out, I blame drunk doughnut eaters for that turning into a cluster ph^qq. Notice how tjey had to bury the dead animals ASAP? It was not to keep people from taking hides gaurds could have taken care of that, it was to cover up how the p^SS POOR shots and many shots taken to kill the animals

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#18 Sep 11, 2012
Spookisbacksoblowmetrolls wrote:
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Not a lot but I know one couple that rsises a litter of bobcat about every other year. Nice couple work for a Honda parts supplier. Good income but not good enough to throw away money.
As for the guy in Zanesville area that killed himself after letting his animals out, I blame drunk doughnut eaters for that turning into a cluster ph^qq. Notice how tjey had to bury the dead animals ASAP? It was not to keep people from taking hides gaurds could have taken care of that, it was to cover up how the p^SS POOR shots and many shots taken to kill the animals
The entire Zanesville situation was a clusterf#ck no matter how you look at it. Thompson was mentally unbalanced, financially unable to care for those animals, and then large, predatory animals being released into areas they were not native to or familiar with. Broke my heart to see those magnificent tigers, dead, and then lined up in those photos.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#19 Sep 11, 2012
Spookisbacksoblowmetrolls wrote:
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There are small scarce but enraged cats on this list that people could feed and nurse to health that now thanks to and ever over bearing government will not get that care because it is not affordable...
Enraged cats?

My kitty gets enraged occasionally. Especially if some neighbor cat comes too close to her domain.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#20 Sep 11, 2012
^^^Please play a little MC Hammer^^^^

I can't touch #19...loaded, loaded, loaded....
Spookisbacksoblo wmetrolls

United States

#21 Sep 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Enraged cats?
My kitty gets enraged occasionally. Especially if some neighbor cat comes too close to her domain.
The interpretive spelling on this touch screen sucks.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

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#22 Sep 12, 2012
Spookisbacksoblowmetrolls wrote:
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The interpretive spelling on this touch screen sucks.
I missed it when you first posted. I only noticed it when people were responding to you.

Then it was too funny to let alone.

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