Public's help sought as hydrants remain snowbound across St. Lawrence County

Streets and highways around St. Lawrence County are mostly clear following last week's snowstorm, but officials in Canton and other communities are still working to dig out fire hydrants, and they're looking for a helping hand from the public.

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Still on my High Horse

Rochester, NY

#1 Jan 1, 2013
Then tell the public and private plow operators to stop burying the hydrants on purpose. Plus there are plenty of "volunteer" firemen who can drive around and dig them out, rather than hang out and just drink beer and play cards and watch TV.

Wait, I got the BEST solution. How about making those on Welfare, EBT, Food Stamps and Unemployment go out and earn their entitlement by shoveling the snow?

Also, why dont kids shovel old people's driveways and sidewalks and hydrants for money anymore?
When I was a kid, I used to make a ton of money raking yards and shoveling snow.
community service

Massena, NY

#2 Jan 1, 2013
Still on my High Horse wrote:
Then tell the public and private plow operators to stop burying the hydrants on purpose. Plus there are plenty of "volunteer" firemen who can drive around and dig them out, rather than hang out and just drink beer and play cards and watch TV.
Wait, I got the BEST solution. How about making those on Welfare, EBT, Food Stamps and Unemployment go out and earn their entitlement by shoveling the snow?
Also, why dont kids shovel old people's driveways and sidewalks and hydrants for money anymore?
When I was a kid, I used to make a ton of money raking yards and shoveling snow.
How about all the criminals around here that have to do community service, perfect solution to this problem. Get a list of everyone around here on probation and parole and give them a shovel. If they want to commit crime in our community then they can help clean it up and it would also save a lot in taxpayers' money. Of course that will never happen because it is to easy of a solution to the problem. They would rather have taxpayers pay high taxes and then on top of it do the work too.
Crazy

Massena, NY

#4 Jan 1, 2013
Still on my High Horse wrote:
Then tell the public and private plow operators to stop burying the hydrants on purpose. Plus there are plenty of "volunteer" firemen who can drive around and dig them out, rather than hang out and just drink beer and play cards and watch TV.
Wait, I got the BEST solution. How about making those on Welfare, EBT, Food Stamps and Unemployment go out and earn their entitlement by shoveling the snow?
Also, why dont kids shovel old people's driveways and sidewalks and hydrants for money anymore?
When I was a kid, I used to make a ton of money raking yards and shoveling snow.
The HS kids already rake yards for FREE in the fall
Crazy

Massena, NY

#5 Jan 1, 2013
You both should run for Mayor I think I would vote for one of you!
community service

Massena, NY

#6 Jan 1, 2013
Crazy wrote:
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The HS kids already rake yards for FREE in the fall
The DPW is already paid to do this storm clean up they shouldn't be asking others to do their job. If others need to do their job we shouldn't be paying them. Another colossal failure by the DPW.
Still on my High Horse

Rochester, NY

#7 Jan 1, 2013
community service wrote:
<quoted text>How about all the criminals around here that have to do community service, perfect solution to this problem. Get a list of everyone around here on probation and parole and give them a shovel. If they want to commit crime in our community then they can help clean it up and it would also save a lot in taxpayers' money. Of course that will never happen because it is to easy of a solution to the problem. They would rather have taxpayers pay high taxes and then on top of it do the work too.
Exactly, Pay your Debt to Society for your crimes. Should also make them clean up all the litter along the hiway and roads and parks.
community service

Massena, NY

#8 Jan 1, 2013
Still on my High Horse wrote:
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Exactly, Pay your Debt to Society for your crimes. Should also make them clean up all the litter along the hiway and roads and parks.
And how about starting and maintaining a community garden to help out seniors and poor people, delivering food from neighborhood center etc., mowing and taking care of the parks in town, cleaning town hall and school etc., cleaning windows and sidewalks and painting downtown etc., shoveling sidewalks. There are a million things they could be doing to save the taxpayers' money and making our community a better place. But it will never happen because our elected officials can't think out of the box, all they can think about is raising our taxes and not providing the services that we have already paid for and asking us to do the jobs we have already paid to have done. We are all in difficult times which need a different kind of thinking to overcome, instead of business as usual, which has gotten us in this mess to begin with. Put these criminals on house arrest and make them contribute to the society they have hurt by their criminal actions. Jails wouldn't be overfilled and that right there would save a ton of money and your right it shouldn't just be criminals, anyone on any type of government assistance should be made to do these things to off set the cost of their assistance. If you get $100 in assistance you should have to work enough hours in the community to off set that $100. Doing this also might lead to them getting jobs and definitely give them some job skills and experience for a resume. Putting them in jail or giving people a government handout does not do anything to really improve their situation. I'm not overly religious but it does say in the bible, give a man a fish feed him for a day teach him how to fish feed him for a lifetime. We need to start "teaching" these people how to fish instead of just handing them fish to eat, but again that requires thinking out of the box. Our community "could" be such a better place if these things were implemented.
Waitinginthedark

Massena, NY

#9 Jan 1, 2013
This year the DPW was to lazy to put the marker polls next to the fire hydrants. Now there is a hydrant buried in my yard, by their plows, and it should be quite interesting to see what happens when they find it with a front end loader while removing snow to widen the road!
Too bad

Middleport, NY

#10 Jan 1, 2013
You have a hydrant in your yard. Where is this at?
Crazy

Massena, NY

#11 Jan 1, 2013
Still on my High Horse wrote:
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Exactly, Pay your Debt to Society for your crimes. Should also make them clean up all the litter along the hiway and roads and parks.
maybe the people in this county would like a house fire w out a hydrant clear yet. would your own laziness help then? You are unrealistic. Maybe we should raise taxes to accomplish all you want.... Just another old fart who wants more for less.....if it seems to good to be true it is!!!!!
Crazy

Massena, NY

#12 Jan 1, 2013
community service wrote:
<quoted text>And how about starting and maintaining a community garden to help out seniors and poor people, delivering food from neighborhood center etc., mowing and taking care of the parks in town, cleaning town hall and school etc., cleaning windows and sidewalks and painting downtown etc., shoveling sidewalks. There are a million things they could be doing to save the taxpayers' money and making our community a better place. But it will never happen because our elected officials can't think out of the box, all they can think about is raising our taxes and not providing the services that we have already paid for and asking us to do the jobs we have already paid to have done. We are all in difficult times which need a different kind of thinking to overcome, instead of business as usual, which has gotten us in this mess to begin with. Put these criminals on house arrest and make them contribute to the society they have hurt by their criminal actions. Jails wouldn't be overfilled and that right there would save a ton of money and your right it shouldn't just be criminals, anyone on any type of government assistance should be made to do these things to off set the cost of their assistance. If you get $100 in assistance you should have to work enough hours in the community to off set that $100. Doing this also might lead to them getting jobs and definitely give them some job skills and experience for a resume. Putting them in jail or giving people a government handout does not do anything to really improve their situation. I'm not overly religious but it does say in the bible, give a man a fish feed him for a day teach him how to fish feed him for a lifetime. We need to start "teaching" these people how to fish instead of just handing them fish to eat, but again that requires thinking out of the box. Our community "could" be such a better place if these things were implemented.
I agree but then you would complain they are taking away jobs for people. Which do you want?
Crazy

Massena, NY

#13 Jan 1, 2013
Too bad wrote:
You have a hydrant in your yard. Where is this at?
i have seen markers all over town starting in late October.
nobody cares

Ogdensburg, NY

#14 Jan 1, 2013
community service wrote:
<quoted text>And how about starting and maintaining a community garden to help out seniors and poor people, delivering food from neighborhood center etc., mowing and taking care of the parks in town, cleaning town hall and school etc., cleaning windows and sidewalks and painting downtown etc., shoveling sidewalks. There are a million things they could be doing to save the taxpayers' money and making our community a better place. But it will never happen because our elected officials can't think out of the box, all they can think about is raising our taxes and not providing the services that we have already paid for and asking us to do the jobs we have already paid to have done. We are all in difficult times which need a different kind of thinking to overcome, instead of business as usual, which has gotten us in this mess to begin with. Put these criminals on house arrest and make them contribute to the society they have hurt by their criminal actions. Jails wouldn't be overfilled and that right there would save a ton of money and your right it shouldn't just be criminals, anyone on any type of government assistance should be made to do these things to off set the cost of their assistance. If you get $100 in assistance you should have to work enough hours in the community to off set that $100. Doing this also might lead to them getting jobs and definitely give them some job skills and experience for a resume. Putting them in jail or giving people a government handout does not do anything to really improve their situation. I'm not overly religious but it does say in the bible, give a man a fish feed him for a day teach him how to fish feed him for a lifetime. We need to start "teaching" these people how to fish instead of just handing them fish to eat, but again that requires thinking out of the box. Our community "could" be such a better place if these things were implemented.
Listen to you talking, like you know what your talking about. They already have a program where you have to work for your benifits, it is called workfare, which all able bodied people must do to get thier benifits. We also have a community garden it is down by the fort. In one of your sentences you say help the poor, then you put down the poor. What do you mean paint downtown, those are all private buildings, and they can paint thier own damm building, they own it. Cleaning windows, just sounds stupid, and does not require a response.
oh please

United States

#15 Jan 1, 2013
Problem with welfare and criminals shoveling is when they fake an injury they will go on disability forever. Help yourself out. Shovel the hydrant out. Takes 10 minutes and may save your life
community service

Massena, NY

#16 Jan 1, 2013
Crazy wrote:
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maybe the people in this county would like a house fire w out a hydrant clear yet. would your own laziness help then? You are unrealistic. Maybe we should raise taxes to accomplish all you want.... Just another old fart who wants more for less.....if it seems to good to be true it is!!!!!
We have had a lot of bad storms where the hydrants have been cleared because our taxes already pay for that. I don't want something for nothing, I want what I have already paid for. How exactly do you think the hydrants have been cleared preciously. I can't believe you are ignorant enough to be saying these things. Let me know where you live, I will charge you to clear your driveway and then not do it and then on top of it tell you you have to do it yourself, pure ignorance on your part. Why would you do something yourself when you have already paid to have it done, only an idiot would do that. Get your shovel out and start clearing all of them seeing you want to pay for something and then do it yourself anyways. That will never happen I bet you haven't even cleared the one closest to your house and definitely not your neighbors, all talk not action. If my house burns down because the DPW didn't do their job that they have already been paid to do then my wallet is going to get a lot fatter, if you know what I mean. Insurance companies are always looking for someone to alleviate their financial liability, so, if the DPW doesn't do their job the insurance company will go after them to recoup their loss and then I will sue them for damages, pain and suffering. It's been five days since the storm why aren't even the main road hydrants cleared already. We just paid almost $100,000 for a new sidewalk plow, where are they hiding it.
nobody cares

Ogdensburg, NY

#17 Jan 1, 2013
Still on my High Horse wrote:
Then tell the public and private plow operators to stop burying the hydrants on purpose. Plus there are plenty of "volunteer" firemen who can drive around and dig them out, rather than hang out and just drink beer and play cards and watch TV.
Wait, I got the BEST solution. How about making those on Welfare, EBT, Food Stamps and Unemployment go out and earn their entitlement by shoveling the snow?
Also, why dont kids shovel old people's driveways and sidewalks and hydrants for money anymore?
When I was a kid, I used to make a ton of money raking yards and shoveling snow.
Really they are doing it on purpose, how stupid can you get. Volunteer firemen, not in Ogdensburg. Unemployment is something that is earned, and it is an insurance, not a handout. Why don't you go and shovel your own sidewalk, and quite waiting for some kid to come along and do it for you.
nobody cares

Ogdensburg, NY

#18 Jan 1, 2013
Crazy wrote:
You both should run for Mayor I think I would vote for one of you!
All three of you are the same person. It doesn't take a smart person to figure that out. You do not get my vote, you don't even know what your talking about.
nobody cares

Ogdensburg, NY

#19 Jan 1, 2013
community service wrote:
<quoted text>The DPW is already paid to do this storm clean up they shouldn't be asking others to do their job. If others need to do their job we shouldn't be paying them. Another colossal failure by the DPW.
If you don't want to take five minutes to shovel a hydrant, then don't, but don't bitch when your house burns down. We don't give a shit, if your house burns, hopefully you will be in it when it does. Maybe your hoping for a fire insurance check, all your doing is trying to beat the system. Get off of your lazy ass and go shovel.
community service

Massena, NY

#20 Jan 1, 2013
nobody cares wrote:
<quoted text>If you don't want to take five minutes to shovel a hydrant, then don't, but don't bitch when your house burns down. We don't give a shit, if your house burns, hopefully you will be in it when it does. Maybe your hoping for a fire insurance check, all your doing is trying to beat the system. Get off of your lazy ass and go shovel.
I already paid the DPW to do it, if my house burns down they are liable for it. Anyone who wishes that someone dies in a fire is no one, any one, should be listening to. It shows your moral character, which apparently you don't have any. What about all the senior citizens that can't do it, I suppose you think they should all die too, what kind of a person are you. We pay taxes so things like that don't happen and you are wishing it on people, talk about a scumbag, loser.
nobody cares

Ogdensburg, NY

#21 Jan 1, 2013
community service wrote:
<quoted text>We have had a lot of bad storms where the hydrants have been cleared because our taxes already pay for that. I don't want something for nothing, I want what I have already paid for. How exactly do you think the hydrants have been cleared preciously. I can't believe you are ignorant enough to be saying these things. Let me know where you live, I will charge you to clear your driveway and then not do it and then on top of it tell you you have to do it yourself, pure ignorance on your part. Why would you do something yourself when you have already paid to have it done, only an idiot would do that. Get your shovel out and start clearing all of them seeing you want to pay for something and then do it yourself anyways. That will never happen I bet you haven't even cleared the one closest to your house and definitely not your neighbors, all talk not action. If my house burns down because the DPW didn't do their job that they have already been paid to do then my wallet is going to get a lot fatter, if you know what I mean. Insurance companies are always looking for someone to alleviate their financial liability, so, if the DPW doesn't do their job the insurance company will go after them to recoup their loss and then I will sue them for damages, pain and suffering. It's been five days since the storm why aren't even the main road hydrants cleared already. We just paid almost $100,000 for a new sidewalk plow, where are they hiding it.
Go ahead and sue, then the taxes will go up further, and give you just a little more to bitch about.

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