Jews for Jesus member sues over park ejection

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A member of Jews for Jesus is suing the Town of Oyster Bay and others for violating her First Amendment rights when she was kicked out of a town park for disseminating information about the group.

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Manny

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Jul 4, 2007
 
All this talk about ejections and disseminating... there might be children reading (gasp!)
Dr No

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Jul 4, 2007
 
No religion should be pushed on anyone at anytime.
There should be no Parades of any kind, they serve no purpose.
They tie up traffic, cost taxpayers money and are a general nuisance.
carly

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Jul 4, 2007
 
Dr No wrote:
No religion should be pushed on anyone at anytime.
There should be no Parades of any kind, they serve no purpose.
They tie up traffic, cost taxpayers money and are a general nuisance.
you must be a barrell of laughs at parties too
You Go Girl

Brooklyn, NY

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Jul 4, 2007
 
Let me get this straight...this woman was escorted from the park for "disseminating information"....with no charge of harassment being made by another individual?....and at taxpayer expense?

I hope she sues TOB big-time and wins.

If this woman was not disturbing the peace or did not represent a threat to public safety there is no constitutional ground for law-enforcement officials to be involved....at all!

TOB already knows they blew it and also know they are about to pay for it....and well they should unless they have any ideas of trying such an act again in the future.

I'll be attending the Kansas concert in this park next week and hope this group is there so I can commend them on hanging tough!
Manny

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Jul 4, 2007
 
Bill The Butcher wrote:
Jews pay every day for the last 2000 years for turning there backs on Jesus
I'm $10 short this week, can I put the balance on my credit card ?
Yo Butcher Boy

Brooklyn, NY

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Jul 4, 2007
 
You say "Jews pay every day for the last 2000 years for turning there backs on Jesus"
If you read your New Testament you'll learn that the Jewish people...who were faithful to bring the Old Testament to the world...along with our Jewish Jesus Christ...are experiencing a period of denial which has become the opportunity for the rest of non-Jewish peoples to know God through the Saviour that they will themselves come to know in the fullness of time.
This is simple Christian doctrine.
Any genuine Christian also understands the Biblical teaching that God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse her.
In a day when Islamic militants would love to see Jews and Christians killed alike unless we bow to their Allah (we are both known as "People of the Book" to them)....it would be good to remember who your friends are.
James

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Jul 4, 2007
 
I implore everyone to join my cult: Koran-abiding Hinjews for Jesus. If anyone kicks me out of a park for passing out literature I'll label them an infidel who will have to mate with 36 cows in his afterlife.
Claim Boy

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Jul 5, 2007
 
Sounds like TOB messed up. They pass an ordinance saying no one can exercise their First Amendment rights in a public venue without permission from the Town, yet they have no procedure in place to grant permission, and are working on drafting one now. A real Catch 22.

Regardless of what you think of the group's message, it's pretty obvious what the Town did was unconstitutional. And let's get something straight -- in America, you do not have a right not to be confronted with a point of view you disagree with in a public place. That's not "liberal b/s" as someone suggested -- it's called free speech, something any patriotic American should support.
Montezuma

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#22
Jul 5, 2007
 
It's too bad there were no cops around in the Americas to kick the Spanish conquistadors out when they arrived peddling christianity.
THE FRITO BANDITO

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Jul 5, 2007
 
Richiemagoo wrote:
Why do these towns have all these unconstitutional laws on the books?!!!! Free speech....our most basic right...and here the government is, using cops paid for by us, the taxpayers, to squelch our rights!!! Disgusting!
HEY RICH: ARE YOU STILL MARRIED TO YA SISTA? WHY DON'T YOU GIVE THEM YOUR ADDRESS AND INVITE THEM OVER TO YA HOUSE FOR A LOVE-FEST?
Tom C

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#25
Jul 5, 2007
 
Of course, they only enforce these laws against Christian groups. If the Boy Scouts or the Little League were handing out leaflets, they'd have been welcome!
Lakiytroneth

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Jul 5, 2007
 
Bill The Butcher wrote:
Jews pay every day for the last 2000 years for turning there backs on Jesus
You are an ignorant jerk.

Since: Dec 06

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Jul 5, 2007
 
Claim Boy wrote:
Sounds like TOB messed up. They pass an ordinance saying no one can exercise their First Amendment rights in a public venue without permission from the Town, yet they have no procedure in place to grant permission, and are working on drafting one now. A real Catch 22.
Regardless of what you think of the group's message, it's pretty obvious what the Town did was unconstitutional. And let's get something straight -- in America, you do not have a right not to be confronted with a point of view you disagree with in a public place. That's not "liberal b/s" as someone suggested -- it's called free speech, something any patriotic American should support.
what they said was that they could have applied for a permit and set up a table in the park.
what they don't want, and i agree with is that while your having fun with your friends and family, you shouldn't be handed any type of solicitation.

this had nothing to do with religon, but everything to do with harrasment.
why didn't they apply for the proper permit?
personlly i wouldn't care if it was jews for jesus, greenpeace, or the red cross. when i'm at the park with my family, i want time with my family not someone trying to sell something.
Jamie

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#30
Jul 5, 2007
 
I have been approached many many times whie trying to relax at the beach.... these people do not have any courtesy. They interrupt your conversation and shove a flyer in your face... they should get a life!

i work hard all week and go to the beach to relax not to have some weirdos bothering me
Teresa

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#31
Jul 5, 2007
 
Next stop - Jehovah's Witnesses!
shameless-li

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#32
Jul 5, 2007
 
Jesus for Jews wrote:
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Do you even know what Jews For Jesus is? It is an organization/cult whose goal is to convert Jews to Christianity under the guise of Jews for Jesus.
Did you even read the story? The details are right in there, so go right ahead with your antisemitism when this is not about Jews but about converting Jews.
PS. Jesus was born, died, reborn a jew, kinda ironic that your savior was never any part of any religious movement other then Judaism, as a Rabbi non the less.
i suppose jesus is black too....
Pete

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Jul 5, 2007
 
shameless-li wrote:
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i suppose jesus is black too....
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Maybe, and next is "Jews for H-tler". That should take care of the Jesus problem....
Peter

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#34
Jul 5, 2007
 
My boss is still able to create quite a commotion.
tegster

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#37
Jul 5, 2007
 
Good Grief! Why all of this harrassment of the Jews for Jesus? No town can bridle the tongue of anyone about religion in the U.S.A. If the town big-wigs don't like it, they don't have to listen to it, but to control the tongues of people and make them fear to speak out about their faiths is really, really, Un-UN-American!!! Where's your respect of your neighbor's liberty? If he's not harming you in any way, why the hostility?

Since: Dec 06

massapequa, long island

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Jul 5, 2007
 
tegster wrote:
Good Grief! Why all of this harrassment of the Jews for Jesus? No town can bridle the tongue of anyone about religion in the U.S.A. If the town big-wigs don't like it, they don't have to listen to it, but to control the tongues of people and make them fear to speak out about their faiths is really, really, Un-UN-American!!! Where's your respect of your neighbor's liberty? If he's not harming you in any way, why the hostility?
you really should read the article. this has NOTHING TO DO WITH JEWS FOR JESUS AT ALL. it has to do with having the proper permits as is required by ANY GROUP.
i don't know about you but i find someone forcing ANYTHING AT ALL on me annoying when i'm relaxing with my family. religon, politics or charities.
if they want to go to a public place that's fine. it's their right. but it's my right and yours not to be bothered unless we want to.

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