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A Mom

Dayton, OH

#44 Oct 23, 2010
PENNIS GANNON wrote:
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it is impossible to be both a fascist and a socialist.
YOU ARE A TOTAL MORON.
Au contraire, they are one and the same if you understand their true nature.
The Circle of Socialism
Most Westerners believe that fascism is extreme-right and socialism is far-left. Perhaps a more realistic model would be a circle at the top of which stands a free market economy, private enterprise, and a limited constitutional government with a bill of rights for the individual as a cornerstone of freedom. At the bottom of the circle rests a dictatorship, individual or oligarchic, sham rights revocable at any time by the state, and where the rule of law means everything is state controlled. The only practical difference between fascism and socialism is that in a communist society government owns all property and directs all enterprise, whereas in a fascist society private property ownership continues, but entrepreneurs must submit to government's ideologies and goals - chief of which is the task of funding government programs with the proceeds of private enterprise. Today's socialism is striving to straddle both models.
Socialism and fascism only appear different when they're sliding down the outside of their respective circles. Once they arrive at the bottom, both are functionally and historically alike. Both societies believe in total government control of the economy, education, and morals, suppression of free speech and other rights, imposition of a politically correct ideology, subordination of citizens' rights to the goals of the state or collective, and the use of law to coerce and prosecute those who dissent.
Bottom line: At the top of the circle is a free state, where the laws protect the people from government. At the bottom of the circle is a socialist or fascist state, where the laws protect government from the people.
100% Successful Failure
Much of public debate today is not about whether we're going to have a free society vs. state control, but simply about which side of the circle we're going to slide down during the move away from freedom towards a global, state-controlled society. Despite socialism's 100% track record of failure, the entire Western world seems determined to do it again, sliding down the left side of the circle, screaming epithets at fascism as it disappears around the curve, unaware that its current course leads to a head-on encounter with fascism going the other way at the bottom. Thereafter, both movements unite, causing their citizens to live miserably ever after. Few apprehend the inherent evil and diminishing rights in the emerging political structures or understand why they are inimical to the free society they are happily leaving behind. Since we're heading towards a global pantheistic socialism, it might be advisable to examine its three fundamentals: elitism, expropriation, and exemption.
1) Elitism
Genuine socialists are, above all, elitist. Socialists conceive themselves to be bright shining Quijotes,1 tilting with windmills, saving humanity from itself, the planet from humanity, the economy from capitalism, and from everything else except big government, which socialists love. On the other hand, they view the putrid pile of pusillanimous pus we call society as the unwashed ignorant who must be saved from themselves. In this capacity, the opinions of the unwashed are to be ignored.
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kurt grieshop

Coldwater, OH

#45 Oct 28, 2010
Why on earth would any sane person vote for John Boehner ? He's against national health coverage EVEN THOUGH he gets it [he's a chain smoker too ]--at the expense of every taxpayer that he's saying "no" to.He was the great pusher of NAFTA to appease his rich friends at the expense of REAL WORKING PEOPLE.He gets on his stump and whines about professional politicians--that IS the pot calling the kettle black.He's completely and totally out of touch with his home district--he WOULDN'T even return to debate with the competition.He's banking on buying another term---kick his losing a$$ out !!!
kurt grieshop

Coldwater, OH

#46 Oct 28, 2010
Conservative wrote:
Will any union member please explain as it was to them by union leaders why free trade is bad?
Businesses aren't taking your job away they're moving THEIR BUSINESS. You only performed a task they no longer are willing to pay for.
You want a job? Start a business, invest your money in it and THEN you can say YOUR JOB otherwise it's someone's money, not yours, their risk, their creativity and you work for them as long as they need you.
EXPLAIN why business had to go to government [ that they NOW decry ] in order to pass NAFTA.We now have a manufacturing base that caters to other manufacturers instead of consumers.There is nothing wrong with free trade except that under NAFTA-our citizens were made the biggest losers out of the deal.Falling wages have out-stripped falling costs--unless you're a mouth-piece like Boehner.Congress can vote themselves a raise WITHOUT direct voter influence---does THAT resemble "free-trade" ? Republican voters are brainwashed because of moral issues and so....they go with status quo.Why didn't these "courageous" republicans go after PUBLIC UNIONS [ for which they are responsible ]--instead of the PRIVATE sector unions ?Government,BY LAW,is to be NEUTRAL on unions-neither promoting them or busting them- EXPLAIN that TO YOUR "FREE-TRADE" COWARDS.America would have been much further ahead getting rid of public unions as oppossed to tilted trade legislation.Bush knew it,boehner knows it....but like ALL republicans,they talk out of both sides of their mouth
kurt grieshop

Coldwater, OH

#47 Oct 29, 2010
Who pays for Boehner's health care ? You betcha---the guy who has NONE the day he's laid-off.If John Boehner is REALLY for smaller government,why doesn't he practice what he preaches ? Because he's a Republican.Republicans write the rules as they go and anything is subject to change,as long as it's in their favor.LIARS LIARS LIARS !!! How's that "trickle-down" working ? 35 years and waiting.....
A Mom

Dayton, OH

#48 Oct 29, 2010
kurt grieshop wrote:
Who pays for Boehner's health care ? You betcha---the guy who has NONE the day he's laid-off.If John Boehner is REALLY for smaller government,why doesn't he practice what he preaches ? Because he's a Republican.Republicans write the rules as they go and anything is subject to change,as long as it's in their favor.LIARS LIARS LIARS !!! How's that "trickle-down" working ? 35 years and waiting.....
Well no, the guy who isn't working isn't paying any taxes so he is not paying for Boehner's health care.
kurt grieshop

Coldwater, OH

#49 Oct 30, 2010
A Mom wrote:
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Well no, the guy who isn't working isn't paying any taxes so he is not paying for Boehner's health care.
My point being that health-care should not be the burden OR the privilege of the employer.On one hand,employers directly pay for idle folks that do get sick but don't produce.On the other hand,you've got employees that are working more efficiently than ever before but not getting raises because of the increased cost of health care.Employers should propose plans that force hospitals to deliver a 2 tier system.FACT:A working person pays for an ambulance ride,a person dependant on the government does not.FACT:Go into an emergency room sometime--90% of the folks in there are NOT insured but think a hangnail is life threatening.Again,I do not want ANYONE,pro or con on national health care making decisions when they,in fact,are immune from the present system.I mst re-iterate : WHO pays for JOHN BOEHNER'S health care ? The working fellow who has to pay a deductible,the working fellow who doesn't have as good of coverage as the politcos.UNLESS REPUBLICANS ARE WILLING TO PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH [ and join the ranks of working Americans ],they have NO BUSINESS making decisions on it.Boehner talks of free market policies but like a typical LIBERAL,he remains blind to the costs--now let's talk about the thousands of other perks.Regardless of political affiliation,citizens must agree to take away Congresses power to award themselves raises.They work for us,not the other way around.
A Mom

Dayton, OH

#50 Oct 30, 2010
I don't know how you plan to take away their ability to vote themselves raises when all appropriations begin in Congress. Terms limits, but they aren't going to pass that either.
I don't want government controlled health care in any form.
Truthenders

Charlotte, NC

#51 Oct 30, 2010
A Mom wrote:
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So a representative is worthwhile only if he brings home the pork, i.e. other people's money? Money stolen from the middle class by the government?
Apparently golfing is a crime if one is a Republican. Having a tan is utterly irrelevant. Only a lib would judge somebody by their appearance. Perhaps you need to post a photo of yourself so we can judge if you are attractive enough to be taken seriously?
As for his "working class" district, there you go again. Only "working" people, union people, matter. Indeed, the implication is that only union people are sufficiently noble, or righteous enough, to matter.
But you have given yourself away. You are not from southern Ohio or you would know that Boehner's district is the richest in the state and his constituents are mostly just like him. They have worked very, very hard for what they have.
Furthermore, I mean that very literally. Boehner is from very humble beginnings and worked his butt off to get where he is. The exact same thing can be said for the majority of the people in his district. They know him very well. They are him.
Mariah, I suggest in the future you check the veracity of the talking points you are told to use on this forum. Right now you are looking, umm, shall we say, "uninformed"?
Suppose you check your facts. Know who you are voting for and who did what. Just because Boehner came from a large family so did a lot of us back then. That is no big deal. Humble beginnings Ha!
Truthenders

Charlotte, NC

#52 Oct 30, 2010
kurt grieshop wrote:
Why on earth would any sane person vote for John Boehner ? He's against national health coverage EVEN THOUGH he gets it [he's a chain smoker too ]--at the expense of every taxpayer that he's saying "no" to.He was the great pusher of NAFTA to appease his rich friends at the expense of REAL WORKING PEOPLE.He gets on his stump and whines about professional politicians--that IS the pot calling the kettle black.He's completely and totally out of touch with his home district--he WOULDN'T even return to debate with the competition.He's banking on buying another term---kick his losing a$$ out !!!
Boehner is out for himself. What is he doing to get jobs for Ohio? Making promises or bashing the other guy. Ask him what his health care plan is for you and yours. All I heard him say and do is try to scare people and he talks down to them like he is smart and all knowing and you are stupid.This man speaks with forked tongue.
A Mom

Dayton, OH

#53 Oct 30, 2010
Truthenders wrote:
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Boehner is out for himself. What is he doing to get jobs for Ohio? Making promises or bashing the other guy. Ask him what his health care plan is for you and yours. All I heard him say and do is try to scare people and he talks down to them like he is smart and all knowing and you are stupid.This man speaks with forked tongue.
Boehner doesn't owe me a healthcare plan. In fact, I don't want the government anywhere near my health care.
US_ ARMY_RETIRED

Carrollton, TX

#54 Oct 30, 2010
When the REPS where incharge of all three houses. They where hand a surplus.When the Dems got control they where handed a busted ecomony.A wall street crash. a housing market crash.Should I go on.The DEMS only hold 58 seats in the SEN.And it take 60 vote to pass or move a bill.The DEMS hold 256 seats in the congress.And every time they pass a bill with out REP help. Because Rep voted no .That bill was sent to the SEN for a final passage vote. BUT sence the DEM only holds 58 seats. And you need 60 vote for final passage. The REP block it there to. I vote for poeple who are willing to work with each other. No matter what THEIR differences are.We all breath the same air in this country.Buy from the same stores. And probably drink the same type of beer.I just can’t vote for a person or persons. That Divides this country by parties. By spreeding hate.Spreading fear,Telling lies.Just to get your vote.And is not willing to work with the other side.For people rights. Right to work,Right to health care,Right to vote,Right to have SSI there for me and you on our retirement age,Right to fair wadges to take care of my family. John Boehner on Jobs Voted NO on increasing minimum wage to $7.25.(Jan 2007. See i look at all the facts before i cast my vote.And so should you.Vote your merit. Not theirs.Vote past the hate, the lies ohio.By the way I’m a American.And proud of it.
US_ ARMY_RETIRED

Carrollton, TX

#55 Oct 30, 2010
Here you go Ohio look for your self Don't let John Beohner Lie to you no more.Heres his vote record John Boehner on Civil Rights Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination based on sexual orientation.(Nov 2007)
John Boehner on Corporations Voted NO on letting shareholders vote on executive compensation.(Jul 2009) Voted YES on more funding for nanotechnology R&D and commercialization.(Jul 2009)
Voted NO on allowing stockholder voting on executive compensation.(Apr 2007)
Voted YES on replacing illegal export tax breaks with $140B in new breaks.(Jun 2004)
Voted YES on Bankruptcy Overhaul requiring partial debt repayment.(Mar 2001)
Rated 100% by the US COC, indicating a pro-business voting record.(John Boehner on Energy & Oil Voted NO on enforcing limits on CO2 global warming pollution.(Jun 2009)
Voted NO on tax credits for renewable electricity, with PAYGO offsets.(Sep 2008)
Voted NO on tax incentives for energy production and conservation.(May 2008)
Voted NO on tax incentives for renewable energy.(Feb 2008)
Voted NO on investing in homegrown biofuel.(Aug 2007)
Voted NO on criminalizing oil cartels like OPEC.(May 2007)
Voted NO on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies.(Jan 2007)
Voted NO on keeping moratorium on drilling for oil offshore.(Jun 2006)Voted YES on implementing Bush-Cheney national energy policy.(Nov 2003)
Voted NO on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR.(Aug els.(Aug 2001)2001)
Voted NO on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol.(Jun 2000)
John Boehner on Free Trade Voted YES on promoting free trade with Peru.(Nov 2007)
Voted NO on assisting workers who lose jobs due to globalization.(Oct 2007)
Voted YES on implementing CAFTA, Central America Free Trade.(Jul 2005)
Voted YES on implementing US-Australia Free Trade Agreement.(Jul 2004)
Voted YES on implementing US-Singapore free trade agreement.(Jul 2003)
Voted YES on implementing free trade agreement with Chile.(Jul 2003)
Voted NO on withdrawing from the WTO.(Jun 2000)
Voted YES on 'Fast Track' authority for trade agreements.(Sep 1998)
John Boehner on Government Reform
Voted NO on protecting whistleblowers from employer recrimination.(Mar 2007)
Voted NO on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions.(Feb 2002)
Voted NO on banning soft money and issue ads.(Sep 1999) John Boehner on Health Care Voted NO on regulating tobacco as a drug.(Apr 2009)
Voted NO on expanding the Children's Health Insurance Program.(Jan 2009)
Voted NO on overriding veto on expansion of Medicare.(Jul 2008)
Voted NO on giving mental health full equity with physical health.(Mar 2008)
Voted NO on Veto override: Extend SCHIP to cover 6M more kids.(Jan 2008)
Voted NO on adding 2 to 4 million children to SCHIP eligibility.(Oct 2007)
Voted NO on requiring negotiated Rx prices for Medicare part D.(Jan 2007)
Voted YES on denying non-emergency treatment for lack of Medicare co-pay.(Feb 2006)
Voted YES on limiting medical malpractice lawsuits to $250,000 damages.(May 2004)
Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients.(Nov 2003)
Voted NO on allowing reimportation of prescription drugs.(Jul 2003)
Voted YES on subsidizing private insurance for Medicare Rx drug coverage.(Jun 2000) John Boehner on Jobs Voted NO on overriding presidential veto of Farm Bill.(Jun 2008)
Voted NO on restricting employer interference in union organizing.(Mar 2007)
Voted NO on increasing minimum wage to $7.25.(Jan 2007)
Voted YES on end offshore tax havens and promote small business.(Oct 2004)
John Boehner on Social Security Voted NO on strengthening the Social Security Lockbox.(May 1999) John Boehner on Tax Reform Voted NO on extending AMT exemptions to avoid hitting middle-income.(Jun 2008)
Voted NO on paying for AMT relief by closing offshore business loopholes.(Dec 2007)
Voted YES on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends.(Dec 2005)
kurt grieshop

Coldwater, OH

#56 Oct 31, 2010
A Mom wrote:
I don't know how you plan to take away their ability to vote themselves raises when all appropriations begin in Congress. Terms limits, but they aren't going to pass that either.
I don't want government controlled health care in any form.
Self-voted raises are NOT appropriations.If you really want to see how Congress operates [ regardless of party] look at the total votes on those raises.The ones most willing to accept those raises DON'T VOTE--they make sure they have other "priorities" that week---like getting to their home district to campaign instead of doing their job.WHY WOULDN'T Boehner debate Coussolue 2 weeks ago but "found the time" to get back a week later to drum up support in districts that are strongly-based Republican footholds ? It's quite obvious that he wants this vote to become one of popularity/money instead of addressing issues and finding common ground with his opponents.Just because there are 2 major parties does not make every issue black vs.white,wrong vs.right.This polarization of ideas IS what has led to a non-functioning government and I can think of no-one better than Boehner to illustrate this fact
Truthenders

Charlotte, NC

#57 Oct 31, 2010
A Mom wrote:
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Boehner doesn't owe me a healthcare plan. In fact, I don't want the government anywhere near my health care.
Why not-- you owe for his and pay for his. You will want the government when you get ill and find out when you health care drops you for using it because they had pay your hospital and doctor bills. Then wait till you see how the drug companies rip you off the high price for medication. My health care plan last year paid $6,700 of my medication and I paid $2600 out of pocket. My wife paid more cause she was hospitalized for 3 days. Health care plans review how much they spent on you and then say you can have coverage for yourself and one family member for $460 a month. My neighbor told me 6 months ago he got a good health care plan for $500 a month. Unless your as wealthy as Boehner. I want a plan like he has.

I sure love people (not) who like to pass the buck and blame people for wanting handouts. It relieves you of any responsibility to not understand what is happening with the health care business and how its price gouging the people. Health care plans stopped paying like they used too. Boehner is depending on people like you who don't know the facts and believe anything he says. He has been asked over and over about his health care plan and he never tells you just says its better.

I find it interesting how the governor of my state during the time the gas prices sky rocketing and the trucks didn't get to our city so gas was limited and the governor sends out the police to every gas station to check and see if the gas stations were price gouging the people and if they were they were to be written up and later prosecuted. But our big government will allow, due to lobbyist lining their deep pockets, the drug companies and health care insurance to price gouge and its ok.

You don't dare in this day and age ever get a credit card. That is the biggest rip off to the people there is. Unless you work for a big company like I did and they issue you one. Cause there are no finance charges or interest rates then. Wonder if it works that way with the politicians. I had to have it for travel so you need one for hotels, plane tickets--travel expense.

Its seem my rights are being taken away bit by bit. Capitalism is crossing the line of being legal crooks ripping off the consumer. Never before in my lifetime has it been this way. But similar was going in the 30's.
kurt grieshop

Coldwater, OH

#58 Nov 1, 2010
I would also like to add that GWB had the same attitude about SSI that Boehner has about health care---"I'm going to thwart changes in programs----that don't affect me" TYPICAL REPUBLICAN "IDEOLOGY".Either you're part of the solution or you're part of the pproblem.Only Republicans think they can ride the crest and claim to be neither
A Mom

Dayton, OH

#59 Nov 2, 2010
kurt grieshop wrote:
I would also like to add that GWB had the same attitude about SSI that Boehner has about health care---"I'm going to thwart changes in programs----that don't affect me" TYPICAL REPUBLICAN "IDEOLOGY".Either you're part of the solution or you're part of the pproblem.Only Republicans think they can ride the crest and claim to be neither
What Bush and the Republicans wanted to do, and need to do, is allow young people, those just beginning their careers, to have the option of setting aside the money that would have gone to SSI in their own private accounts, if they want to.
Naturally the Dems. did not want such a system, the SS fund is empty and they need every penny the young contribute to pay their current obligations. That is why some are suggesting the government now grab everybody's 401k accounts; they want to spend that money now.

The SSI is a Ponzi scheme, it requires increasing amounts of money flowing in at the bottom level to fund the top. It was created by the Democrats without sufficient foresight. One cannot add to the number of those receiving SSI, coupled with a declining birth rate and stay solvent.
The Democrats only solution to the problem of the SSI impending bankruptcy is to grab still more money. In fact, grabbing still more money to spend is their only solution to every problem.
truthenders

Charlotte, NC

#60 Nov 2, 2010
A Mom wrote:
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What Bush and the Republicans wanted to do, and need to do, is allow young people, those just beginning their careers, to have the option of setting aside the money that would have gone to SSI in their own private accounts, if they want to.
Naturally the Dems. did not want such a system, the SS fund is empty and they need every penny the young contribute to pay their current obligations. That is why some are suggesting the government now grab everybody's 401k accounts; they want to spend that money now.
The SSI is a Ponzi scheme, it requires increasing amounts of money flowing in at the bottom level to fund the top. It was created by the Democrats without sufficient foresight. One cannot add to the number of those receiving SSI, coupled with a declining birth rate and stay solvent.
The Democrats only solution to the problem of the SSI impending bankruptcy is to grab still more money. In fact, grabbing still more money to spend is their only solution to every problem.
Dream on---only in a perfect world. Just like all that money invested in 401K and there went people's savings. Where do you suggest they save this money? Banks and the banks go belly up one day as in the depression.

There is no money but there sure is billions being tossed around to our politicians for campaigns and lobbyist for their votes. But all the American people ever hear from republicans is we are broke.

Talk about nothing new under the sun--same ole rhetoric that goes around and around.

Republicans have a new threat and its Sara Palin. They were warned about TeaParty that it could backfire on them. Who did Sara support--the tea party, the secessionist, Alaskan Independent Party who hate the government and blame them for killing one of their own years back and that means all of the republicans and democrats. Its not the Palinites who are joining the republicans its the republicans who they want to support their ideas. So hop on board republicans--you have a new leader and the name is not any seated republican.
kurt grieshop

Coldwater, OH

#61 Dec 9, 2010
Mom,SSI is not a ponzi scheme.It went bankrupt because a] we tied A.D.C.[Aid to Dependent Children ] to it,we tied W.I.C. to it.We allow folks working a mere 5 years at the end of their career to draw from it.We give out COLA allowances even though 35 % of the recipients have pension plans...401K's...investments-- -all of this at the cost of the 40 year worker who won't draw for another 15 years.SSI is going broke because THOSE WHO MAKE DECISIONS on its future DON'T DRAW FROM IT.This is another example of why government employees should no longer remain IMMUNE from these programs.Privatize SSI ??? Ha Ha Ha.The most crooked game on earth is the NYSE and Republicans fidget when Obama attempted to clean it up.Republicans are lying thieving malcontents
Good Wine

United States

#62 Dec 14, 2010
I don't know much about Boehner, other than his small moments on the national news. However, after watching him CRY on this past weekends 60 Minutes, I have serious doubts about his Mental Stability. I cannot imagine this guy in the Oval Office, with his finger on the Nuclear Trigger...should something happen to Obama and Biden. I would have to compare him to Sarah Palin...in terms of someone who exudes the Extremes.

I understand he represents a mostly rural district in Ohio. I also live in the boondocks, and in my State, the local farmers, etc., are blessed with a high degree of Common Sense. I cannot imagine our area voting for someone so seemingly unstable as this guy. Someone in his position should demonstrate the highest level of self control. If he cries over childhood memories, what does he do when faced with a Real Problem???
Mags

Marysville, OH

#63 Dec 26, 2010
ballot1 wrote:
Boehner is the one of very few Senators who has never taken an earmark....can any of the other dems say that????????
You're an idiot. He's a Representative, not a Senator.

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