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curiosity killed the cat

Dickson, TN

#1 Apr 28, 2008
let me start by telling you that i am not here to rant but rather get some oppinions and advice. this all started about 2 years ago when this woman was pulled over and arrested during a routine traffic stop. she was charged with possesion of cocaine and marijuana. she was booked and givin a court date. at that time she was calling me constantly while messed up making threats and asking me for money. at that time she had one kid and the kid would be in the background screaming. then she got busted again for possession and ovi and put on house arrest and at that time she was ordered to either go to work or go to school and wouldnt do that or stay clean so they violated her probation and sent her to jail. the lucky ass got only 21 days because they didnt have room to house her and she was pregnant. so they let her out ater serving only 13 days of that sentence. meanwhile her kid was in the care of her mother who also is a crackhead. they drive around 15- 20 hours a day looking for a fix with a 2 yo and a 3 month old in the car. with gas prices out this world and no jobs how do you think that she is supporting this lifestyle? we are paying for it. she draws welfare and child support plus her bf gets SSI for being bipolar. this womans 2 year old son is violent, he attacks other children without being provoked, he walks around with his hands clasped cupping his mouth saying that he is " smoking choke". i personally bought him a toy set that contained bubbles and he decided he was going to take the bubble pipe and act like he was lighting the top of it with a lighter( make believe lighter i dont smoke). he also pounded the pipe on the table saying he was cleaing it. i also took the boy to the kentucky artisan center in berea kentucky and when we pulled up he asked if we were at the jail to visit mommy! myself i have called 241- kids at least 15 times about this and nothing has been done. this girls own father has called on her and they showed up at his 250 thousand dollar home and did nothing but ask to see the children. wtf can these people not do their job? what is going to happen when this crazy broad stiffs someone on some drugs and they kill her and she has her kids with her?
CURIOUS TOO

Fairfield, OH

#2 Apr 29, 2008
I too have called 241-kids to report a woman that not only does drugs, but sells them too. She also has various men living in her home, a different one every month to pay the rent till they catch on to her. She has a 5 month old baby girl that doesn't have any of her shots, has never even seen a pediatrican. 241-kids does nothing. Basically if the kids have food, they are good to go. And then everyone is shocked when these poor babies end up dead!!
It is heart-breaking. And when one of us finally does step up, nothing is done.
Its very sad......
curiosity killed the cat

Dickson, TN

#3 Apr 29, 2008
i know what you mean and i was actually told that parental drug abuse isnt child abuse but yet in some states you can lose your kids to the welfare for smoking tobacco around them. it is bad when you have 2 year old giving an 8 month old a beat down and telling you that there mommy had to go to fayes house ( faye apartments) to get some choke.

Since: Apr 08

Dickson, TN

#4 Apr 30, 2008
i would just like to thank the douche bags that work for child protective services for a job not done! thanks to those incompetent retards my son is going to be seriously scarred for life. i have reported my babys mama beth robben at least 20 times for not taking care of him. beth and that crackhead allen mounce drive around 18-20 hours a day with my 2 year old son in the backseat while they look for crack, pot, meth whatever they can get their next high on. they dont feed him , dont change his diaper, and they fight, have sex and smoke crack around him! my son is two and knows how to clean a bong! there is seriously something wrong with the retards that work for 241-kids
PLEASE HELP

Cincinnati, OH

#5 Dec 11, 2008
Oct 29, 2007
i need to get some info on what i can do in ref situation with my 12 year old son.recently I started nursing school 08/2006 & graduated 6/07/07 when i first started nursing school i put my 12yr in care of my exstepmom Debora wingrove in Vincent,OH,Washington co. i signed a poa for medical & school purposes only.March 14th i received a phone call from my brother concerned about a phone call that my biological mother received from Debora wingrove wanting my mother sally Webb to testify against me in court for her to be able to gain full custody of my son. this was a temporary situation for the time that i was in school only. this was to help Zachary be more stable during the situations that was going on in my life at the time. i was still going through custody for my 3 year with my ex husband Kenneth gabbard and also starting nursing school. i was afraid that i wouldn't have the time to do everything that Zachary would need during the school year as far as his extra activities after school and his homework along with mine, plus the situation going on with my ex husband at the same time. this lady had been in my life since i was a little girl i trusted her with everything down to keep my personal items at her house along with all my jewelry and family possessions that had been handed down through out the years. i had even went as far as trusting my money in her bank account which she gave me access too. i had my 12 year old social security direct deposited into her account and i also would put all of my pay roll and loan checks into her account so that there was money there if anything was needed for my son. i also had access to this if i needed to get money for bills and etc also. the problems all started in January 2007 when i couldn't afford to put my loan checks into her bank account this time. which was 1600.00. i had to pay my attorney that had handled my divorce and the custody for my 3 year old which i currently have. i also had to pay some personal bills that i had at the time. i then went and applied for assistance and found out that Debora wingrove had been collecting welfare benefits on my 3 year old and myself along with Zachary and herself at the address in Vincent Ohio. i was a full time student at butler tech in fairfield Ohio. my classes were Monday through Friday from 8 am to 330pm every day. i would work every other weekend and then go to visit my son on the opposite weekends. then after thanksgiving Debora started breaking contact with my son and i. she would either not answer the phone or say that Zachary had other plans and wasn't available for me to visit her. then on my visit at Christmas time she said that Zachary was sick and i only got to spend about 4 hours with him and she never took him to the doctor but yet i find out later that she was allowing him to go out and play on the four wheeler on the farm. then the Friday the 16th of march after i received the phone call from my brother i went to pick up my son from his school and Zachary stood in the hallway yelling and saying that he wasn't allowed to be with me or talk with me and wasn't allowed to go with me.
REST OF STORY POSTED HERE: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/vincent-oh/T8...
PLEASE HELP

Cincinnati, OH

#6 Dec 11, 2008
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/vincent-oh/T8...
please read the above link I miss my son and dont know what else to do I am treated worse then a drug abuser or criminal PLEASE SOMEONE OUT THERE PLEASE HELP I MISS MY CHILD AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM
DEA

Cincinnati, OH

#7 Jan 1, 2009
I have called before too only when i felt the situatuion is serious.Also I do not mean to be rude or upset anyone but children protective services are not a "revenge" service.I'm not saying anyone here is doing it in spite but all to often I've seen people over and over again just call them out of revenge.If you put into mind that there going into homes where there is no need for them to be where a child is just perfect but then usually have to start a case and start services and all that when there is no need for any of it and then that take their time away from getting to the real bitches and bastard we see in the news everyday that like to leave there kids at home and so forth.In the cases its usually too late to rehab the family back to norm and the poor children suffer cause they could not get service they need and prevention with parents because there out else where having cases against parents that are very well adjusted who take of there children and they can not get to real children who need there help.I have a dealt with a revenge call against myself and well what do you know the person is sitting behind bars for harrasment and false report.Which that person's child no longer is in there care because it turned out there were serverly neglecting their own child.It breaks my heart and puts tears in my eyes to know that there are children who really need the help and just can't get it because of the misuse of the sevice.Maybe if it wasnt abused by spiteful people we might just see less stories of children being abused or neglected on the news.
tyrone

Evansville, IN

#8 Jan 1, 2009
I think every call should be checked into.
jlg

Cincinnati, OH

#9 Apr 23, 2009
DEA wrote:
I have called before too only when i felt the situatuion is serious.Also I do not mean to be rude or upset anyone but children protective services are not a "revenge" service.I'm not saying anyone here is doing it in spite but all to often I've seen people over and over again just call them out of revenge.If you put into mind that there going into homes where there is no need for them to be where a child is just perfect but then usually have to start a case and start services and all that when there is no need for any of it and then that take their time away from getting to the real bitches and bastard we see in the news everyday that like to leave there kids at home and so forth.In the cases its usually too late to rehab the family back to norm and the poor children suffer cause they could not get service they need and prevention with parents because there out else where having cases against parents that are very well adjusted who take of there children and they can not get to real children who need there help.I have a dealt with a revenge call against myself and well what do you know the person is sitting behind bars for harrasment and false report.Which that person's child no longer is in there care because it turned out there were serverly neglecting their own child.It breaks my heart and puts tears in my eyes to know that there are children who really need the help and just can't get it because of the misuse of the sevice.Maybe if it wasnt abused by spiteful people we might just see less stories of children being abused or neglected on the news.
How did you get this taken care of? I am at a loss. I dont know where to turn with the system and I miss my child desperately I lay awake and cry at night and catch myself crying in front of my little one and dont know how to explain this all to him. My 2 boys should be together. It is drastic that 2 brothers are apart like this. PLAESE HELP IF YOU CAN

Since: Apr 09

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#10 Apr 26, 2009
241 kids is a f'n joke, I have a 2yr old girl and her mom burns her with cigerattes and does various pills and drinks on top of doing them. She has her b/f potty train my lil girl, while the court denies me any help and 241 kids will not do any follow up investigation. I have a Dr. stating they are burns from a cig or some thing similar (cigerallo) or something like that. So good luck to anyone needing help with their children in Cincinnati.
awsome dad

West Milton, OH

#11 Jul 8, 2009
hey just wondering how these revenge calls work. ive had custody of my child for two years now only cause her mom asked that my wife and i dont seek support. in fact my daughters mom text her saying" ill sign my rights away before ill ever pay ur dad suooprt that means ill no longer b ur mom " WTF??now she wants custody cause we have a support order and she called 241-kids on our two youngest?? I was forced to call on her cause of them taking all their kids down to buy crack in the middle of the night in 07 including my daughter. And they keep telling my daughter they wil buy her a car lol when shes 16..thats funny cause my daughters mom and 6 others share 1 vehicle when my wife and i have 5 cars ...any way any suggestions??
justin case

Murfreesboro, TN

#12 Jul 8, 2009
i have no idea how a revenge call works but 241 kids is fucking useless! they claim that they investigate every call within 48 hours but they dont or else half of the kids in the hood would be in the system. i know a woman in montford heights that drugs her grandchildren so they will sleep while she has her boyfriends over. she has a 3 year old on ritalin and breaks the pills in half and gives them to his 1 year old brother. that bitch should be in jail!
reality lost

Franklin, OH

#13 Jul 8, 2009
awsome dad wrote:
hey just wondering how these revenge calls work. ive had custody of my child for two years now only cause her mom asked that my wife and i dont seek support. in fact my daughters mom text her saying" ill sign my rights away before ill ever pay ur dad suooprt that means ill no longer b ur mom " WTF??now she wants custody cause we have a support order and she called 241-kids on our two youngest?? I was forced to call on her cause of them taking all their kids down to buy crack in the middle of the night in 07 including my daughter. And they keep telling my daughter they wil buy her a car lol when shes 16..thats funny cause my daughters mom and 6 others share 1 vehicle when my wife and i have 5 cars ...any way any suggestions??
Most of the time once they see children are just fine, they go away. If you have nothing to hide, you should not be worried. My sons' dad tried that once and 241kids did not even make it into my house, of course I was furious because there really are kids that need help and hear they were on a Sunday morning none the less at my door. My kids came out yelling about being woke up and pretty much that was the end of it. People like your daughters mom and my sons' father irritate me, simply because they are childish and do not realize, nor care I'll bet, that they are putting other children at risk.
reality lost

Franklin, OH

#14 Jul 8, 2009
jlg wrote:
<quoted text>How did you get this taken care of? I am at a loss. I dont know where to turn with the system and I miss my child desperately I lay awake and cry at night and catch myself crying in front of my little one and dont know how to explain this all to him. My 2 boys should be together. It is drastic that 2 brothers are apart like this. PLAESE HELP IF YOU CAN
Unfortunately once children are in any kind of system or custody has been turned over, it is often difficult for anyone to get them back. Even biological parents. Our child service systems are completely out of whack. No matter what the reason you gave custody of your child over to someone else, a court has to look at it as you gave them up. Continually moving children back and forth is not acceptable in any courts eyes. It sucks, but the only advice I can give is keep trying. I know first hand how awful it can feel but if you do not give up. You are going to need to get a really good attorney and be able to prove that not only will YOUR child be better off now with you, but also that are stable and will not look to give custody over again.
WHATAJOKE

London, KY

#15 Aug 24, 2009
241-KIDS DON'T DO THERE JOBS I KNOW A WOMEN WITH 3 KIDS WHO DOES DRUGS,SELL, THEM LETS ALL KIDS OF MEN STAY WITH HER 241-KIDS HAVE BEEN CALLED ON HER HUNDREDS OF TIME BY NEIGHBOR AND RELATIVES SHE LOSES HER KIDS 4 MAYBE 2 OR 3 MONTHS THEN THEY ALWAYS GIVE THEM BACK SHE ALWAYS CHOOSES THE MAN IN HER LIFE OVER THEM SHE GETS WELFARE AND CHILD SUPPORT SHE LEAVES THE CHILD HOME ALONE 5 7 AND 8 YET SHE STILL GETS THEM BAVK SHE THINKS THERE A JOKE 2 SHE SAID SHE WOULD HAVE 2 KILL ONE OF THEM BEFORE SHE WOULD LOSE THEM THERE IS PHYLLISICAL AND MENTAL ABUSE I WISH SOME ONE WOULD DO SOMETHING
No justice_Just us

Covington, KY

#16 Aug 29, 2009
I to am going thru the same problems several ppl including Me have called 241 kids for the same child and nothing has been done the mother neglects the poor boy leaves him with different ppl for months at a time when me and the childs father get the child he comes with scratches and cuts hes only 2!!! the mother disappears for weeks no call no show when its time to pick up her child when she drops him off she brings nothing but toys and maybe a few diapers and maybe one outfit and after she decides to come and get him she calles the police and says we child napped him and that we wont give him back. The mothers own sister called on her and nothings been done WTF they should be shut done. where is the justice in that - no justice Just US! im going to put together a petition to have the child takin away if nothing else works if you would like to help reply to this message i will be checking it every day. if needed i will send a copy to your address sign and send back too me thank you ..
realitylost

Franklin, OH

#17 Aug 30, 2009
"they should be shut done. where is the justice in that - no justice Just US! im going to put together a petition to have the child takin away if nothing else works if you would like to help reply to this message i will be checking it every day. if needed i will send a copy to your address sign and send back too me thank you"

I will gladly sign any petition that will save a child. However, in order to save more than the one child, a bigger issue needs to be addressed. 241-kids obviously cannot handle their case load, because so many kids are being returned to unfit parents. Maybe a petition that has the agency looked into and determines whether or not their program is really helping people may be a bigger help. In the meantime, any time you have the child or get the child with scratches and bruises, call the police to make the report. It is more work for them, but they probably do not want to be the ones to find that child if something worse happens. Any documented proof you have can help, especially if you would try to obtain custody.
old friend

Dickson, TN

#18 Sep 17, 2009
241 kids has done it again. Someone called in a false report on my friend claiming that she hit her daughter with a belt back in june and they just removed her 2 weeks ago. They placed the kid with his putative fathers mother, a woman who has no legal rights to her. That woman has 3 other kids placed by 241 kids and was allowing this child to stay in Dayton with her alleged father who has a long history of domestic violence. My friend got her daughter back but I think she should sue
rude dude

Alexandria, KY

#19 Sep 17, 2009
When I was fighting for custody of my then 2 year old daughter CCCPS did nothing. I had a drug/alcohol/and cig. free home. She was living in a nasty roach infested home with her mother. I actually had a CPS worker tell me roaches and filth are not harmfull and that if my child grew up in that she would adapt to it. I later found out that Clermont Co. CPS had fired the investigator for my case do to his alcoholism. He was drunk on the job for years and evryone working there knew it.
Dawn Evans

Cincinnati, OH

#20 Mar 16, 2010
podunk hillbilly wrote:
241 kids is a f'n joke, I have a 2yr old girl and her mom burns her with cigerattes and does various pills and drinks on top of doing them. She has her b/f potty train my lil girl, while the court denies me any help and 241 kids will not do any follow up investigation. I have a Dr. stating they are burns from a cig or some thing similar (cigerallo) or something like that. So good luck to anyone needing help with their children in Cincinnati.
I have to agree whole heartly with you 241-kids and jfs is a joke my two grand kids are in the same sisuation jfs sent a letter a month in advance telling them exactly when they would be knocking on their door and what needed to be done in their home. You would think after marcus fiesel they would be on top of things, I just wonder how many more choldren have to die before they become compatent in their jobs.

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