Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32549 Aug 9, 2014
Oh! Under 'so on & so forth" I would like to specify that no one knows how many times Obama stated that he 'found out the same way' as everyone else about some sort of event in the news.
Does he not have a humongous number of czars, cabinet members, advisers, & deputies of whatever field that are supposed to be informing him of virtually everything going on in the world so that he should be aware B4 the press & therefore citizens? Citizens that HE is supposed to represent & protect.
IF these czars, cabinet members, advisers & assorted deputies are NOT keeping Obama informed, they should resign or be fired. But getting fired by the person whose butt you are covering is any thing but politically common.
Why does this NOT happen? It is part of "duck & cover" and "...you cover my butt & I'll cover your butt".
THIS President is a result of the residual effects of Chicago of the 1920's & 1930's.
But getting into Chicago historical political issues & status would be another page. A LONG page.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32550 Aug 9, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Your memory is faulty, and your story doesn't make sense. Obama never mentioned Seal Team 6 in his public statement. But they were a pretty obvious guess, for anyone that pays attention to counter terrorism...
Fair enough, DumBama didn't, but his sidekick did:

KUHNER: Who betrayed Navy SEAL Team 6?
Congress must discover how they were marked for death

What really happened to Navy SEAL Team 6? In August 2011, the elite special forces unit suffered the worst battlefield calamity in its history. A Taliban fighter shot down a Chinook helicopter carrying 22 Navy SEAL Team 6 members in Afghanistan. All 38 persons on board — the Navy SEAL warriors, other U.S. military personnel and seven Afghan soldiers — were killed. Grieving family members have been demanding answers. They may now get some as Congress finally opens an investigation.

Navy SEAL Team 6 has attained international prominence for one reason: They were responsible for killing Osama bin Laden. They are American heroes. Yet, their own government betrayed them. Several days after the bin Laden operation, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.— in a pathetic attempt to spike the football and gloat — publicly revealed their central role in the raid. His revelations put a giant target on the backs of every Navy SEAL Team 6 member. A covert unit, whose mission is to operate in the murky shadows, was exposed as the group that eliminated al Qaeda’s chief mastermind. Mr. Biden’s reckless actions — followed by President Obama’s own words acknowledging the secret unit’s operation — jeopardized the Navy SEALs’ safety. Jihadists bent on revenge began an intense manhunt. The hunters now became the hunted.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32551 Aug 9, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Pops, we know exactly where Obama was when Osama was killed --- monitoring the operation via a live video feed. Don't you remember the famous photo? Why do you try to demean Obama's success in achieving what we've all wanted since 9/11? What George W. had promised us, but was unable to deliver in 8 years of trying.
"Obama watched Bin Laden die on live video as shoot-out beamed to White House"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13828...
Timeline: The Intelligence Work Behind Bin Laden’s Death
By THE NEW YORK TIMES MAY 2, 2011 5:37 AMMay 2, 2011 8:24 am

Take note of the date here.

A timeline of the events and intelligence work that led to President Obama‘s dramatic late-night announcement on Sunday of the capture and killing of Osama bin Laden, the Al Qaeda leader responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks:

Four Years Ago: American intelligence for the first time uncovers the name of Bin Laden’s trusted courier but cannot locate him.

Two Years Ago: American intelligence identifies areas in Pakistan where the courier and his brother have operated but cannot pinpoint exactly where they live.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/02...

This is not Fox or Hannity or Limbaugh. This is the left leaning NY Times reporting that the mission was well in progress four years earlier--in 2007. Now who was President in 2007?

This was a mission started long before DumBama came to town with his Roman pillars.

It's not that DumBama doesn't deserve credit--he does. But to say that this mission was entirely his own doing is just plain false. Even Leon Panetta stumbled during an interview when asked if so-called "torture" helped lead to the execution of Bin Laden. If you need the recording, just ask, I have it in my trusty folder.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#32552 Aug 9, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Your memory is faulty, and your story doesn't make sense. Obama never mentioned Seal Team 6 in his public statement. But they were a pretty obvious guess, for anyone that pays attention to counter terrorism...
"During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."
It quickly leaked that SEAL Team Six had executed the raid, but this was hardly surprising as the SEALs are the principal Special Operations Forces in the Afghanistan/Pakistan theater, something that has been discussed in multiple news stories over the past several years and in bestselling books such as "Lone Survivor" by former Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell.
And the SEALs have hardly kept a low profile of late, cooperating in a movie "Act of Valor" that was released in theaters this year, which actually featured real SEALs playing the parts of the heroes of the movie.
Perhaps if you had absolutely no knowledge of the U.S. military, or indeed access to Wikipedia where SEAL Team Six has had an entry since 2004, it would be news to you that SEAL Team Six, along with the Army's Delta Force, are America's premier counterterrorism units. Obviously, a mission to take out bin Laden would not be entrusted to any other than these elite units.
So the notion that the public naming of the unit that killed bin Laden endangers the lives of its members and their families is overwrought. Members of SEAL Team Six are well able to take care of themselves and their families. And who first leaked the involvement of SEAL Team Six in the bin Laden operation remains unclear."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/17/opinion/bergen-...
EXCLUSIVE: Parents of SEAL Team Six member say unit endangered by Obama administration statements

By Catherine Herridge, Pamela Browne
·Published September 11, 2012
·FoxNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/10/pa...
ino

Waverly, OH

#32553 Aug 9, 2014
MARION, Ohio — Democratic gubernatorial nominee Ed FitzGerald sent his second email to supporters today in the last three days, this one to “apologize once again for any mistakes I made, which took the focus off the crucial issues Ohio is facing."

“Instead, attention shifted to my carelessness, and that’s entirely my fault.”

In the last eight days, reports have surfaced that FitzGerald was found one early morning two years ago in a parked car with a woman who was not his wife, and that he drove cars for 10 years without a driver’s license.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local...
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#32554 Aug 10, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Fair enough, DumBama didn't, but his sidekick did:
KUHNER: Who betrayed Navy SEAL Team 6?
Congress must discover how they were marked for death
What really happened to Navy SEAL Team 6? In August 2011, the elite special forces unit suffered the worst battlefield calamity in its history. A Taliban fighter shot down a Chinook helicopter carrying 22 Navy SEAL Team 6 members in Afghanistan. All 38 persons on board — the Navy SEAL warriors, other U.S. military personnel and seven Afghan soldiers — were killed. Grieving family members have been demanding answers. They may now get some as Congress finally opens an investigation.
Navy SEAL Team 6 has attained international prominence for one reason: They were responsible for killing Osama bin Laden. They are American heroes. Yet, their own government betrayed them. Several days after the bin Laden operation, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.— in a pathetic attempt to spike the football and gloat — publicly revealed their central role in the raid. His revelations put a giant target on the backs of every Navy SEAL Team 6 member. A covert unit, whose mission is to operate in the murky shadows, was exposed as the group that eliminated al Qaeda’s chief mastermind. Mr. Biden’s reckless actions — followed by President Obama’s own words acknowledging the secret unit’s operation — jeopardized the Navy SEALs’ safety. Jihadists bent on revenge began an intense manhunt. The hunters now became the hunted.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter
Nice source there 'moonie'.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#32555 Aug 10, 2014
ino wrote:
<quoted text>By your idiotic reply we can see you didn't watch it.
Maybe because it's just another conspiracy site that only fools cite as sources:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Journalism_Cent...
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32556 Aug 10, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Nice source there 'moonie'.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times
Nice deflection there Troll.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#32557 Aug 10, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice deflection there Troll.
For pointing out the "FACT" that it's a rag owned by the Moonies. A cult no less, that you use as a source.
ino

Waverly, OH

#32558 Aug 10, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe because it's just another conspiracy site that only fools cite as sources:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Journalism_Cent...
That changes the video How? There was a well known person from your town there when it happened and had photos posted on Facebook. Do you deny those too?
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32559 Aug 10, 2014
ino wrote:
<quoted text>
That changes the video How? There was a well known person from your town there when it happened and had photos posted on Facebook. Do you deny those too?
It's your typical liberal tactic of attacking the source and not the story. Happens all the time.

Nine times out of ten times, these libs won't even bother to click the link. You can always tell when they didn't read it because in most cases, the stories are complete with hyperlinks and sources where they got their information from.
ino

Waverly, OH

#32560 Aug 10, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
It's your typical liberal tactic of attacking the source and not the story. Happens all the time.
Nine times out of ten times, these libs won't even bother to click the link. You can always tell when they didn't read it because in most cases, the stories are complete with hyperlinks and sources where they got their information from.
I know. I check the hyperlinks all the time. But I know for a fact the video in the link I provided did happen.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#32561 Aug 10, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Not to mention that few remember the aftermath of Bin Laden.
DumBama won his bragging rights about having Bin Laden killed but shot his mouth off that it was Seal Team 6 that executed the terrorist.
Several months later, terrorists targeted and shot down the Seal Team 6 helicopter killing many of it's members and injuring others. That's the thanks they got for doing such a great job and making DumBama look like a hero in the eyes of his followers.
More unadulterated Rush Limbaugh bullshit from the delivery boy.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#32562 Aug 10, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> I didn't remember that being a LIVE viewing in the situation room even tho I remember Hillary being aghast...understandably. Why were cameras there to film it or were those WH films that were released later?
I do NOT give Obama much credit because of the 8 yrs that you mention. 8 yrs that set up the entire ending, an ending which could NOT have happened without those 8 yrs. After all, Osama was making every effort to evade as he should have. He saw what happened to Saddam. Then it turns out that Pakistan was hiding him. WE & The World are blessed that Osama had been found without more time & resources. Did Obama give any credit to GW, the CIA, or our allies intelligence services? None that I know of. If you present a link, I will read it with an open eye.
I have repeatedly given Obama credit for giving the order to capture or kill Osama which is more than Clinton did. But O's 'fans' sound off like Obama was there in combat gear which of course is wrong.
We have had narcassistic presidents B4 & will again but Obama takes the prize for now. He is the King of Duck & Cover for the bad things & the 1st in front of cameras & mic's for the good things.
Examples of bad: the IRS did NOT have a 'smidgen' of impropriety when the investigation is ongoing.(duck) then there's the 'Rev Wright' B.S. AND that the repubs won't 'compromise' when it takes 2 to compromise. It is difficult to compromise when one has to "sit in the back". When he was called on for bowing to foreign heads of state he was tying his shoe or some other weak azz excuse. So on & so forth.
I do not know if McCain or Romney or Johnson would have been better, I do know that Obama could be better.
Well, if you don't remember it, it must not have happened, eh Pops? And tell us exactly how Bush's pointless war in Iraq had any bearing whatsoever on the death of bin Laden.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#32563 Aug 10, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Fair enough, DumBama didn't, but his sidekick did:
KUHNER: Who betrayed Navy SEAL Team 6?
Congress must discover how they were marked for death
What really happened to Navy SEAL Team 6? In August 2011, the elite special forces unit suffered the worst battlefield calamity in its history. A Taliban fighter shot down a Chinook helicopter carrying 22 Navy SEAL Team 6 members in Afghanistan. All 38 persons on board — the Navy SEAL warriors, other U.S. military personnel and seven Afghan soldiers — were killed. Grieving family members have been demanding answers. They may now get some as Congress finally opens an investigation.
Navy SEAL Team 6 has attained international prominence for one reason: They were responsible for killing Osama bin Laden. They are American heroes. Yet, their own government betrayed them. Several days after the bin Laden operation, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.— in a pathetic attempt to spike the football and gloat — publicly revealed their central role in the raid. His revelations put a giant target on the backs of every Navy SEAL Team 6 member. A covert unit, whose mission is to operate in the murky shadows, was exposed as the group that eliminated al Qaeda’s chief mastermind. Mr. Biden’s reckless actions — followed by President Obama’s own words acknowledging the secret unit’s operation — jeopardized the Navy SEALs’ safety. Jihadists bent on revenge began an intense manhunt. The hunters now became the hunted.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter
Because, of course, there was no one in Afghanistan trying to kill American soldiers prior to bin Laden's death.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32564 Aug 10, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
More unadulterated Rush Limbaugh bullshit from the delivery boy.
Yeah, I know, when your gun is out of bullets, just say Limbaugh, Fox, Hannity.......

You libs are so predictable.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#32565 Aug 10, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, I know, when your gun is out of bullets, just say Limbaugh, Fox, Hannity.......
You libs are so predictable.
Since everything those people utter is garbage, that is all the rebuttal that is needed. How about this? If you want to assert that President Obama in some way contributed to the deaths of Seal Team 6 members, instead of simply regurgitating what you heard on Limbaugh, try offering some facts.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32566 Aug 10, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, if you don't remember it, it must not have happened, eh Pops? And tell us exactly how Bush's pointless war in Iraq had any bearing whatsoever on the death of bin Laden.
I don't remember you being born so does that mean that you weren't born?
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32567 Aug 10, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, if you don't remember it, it must not have happened, eh Pops? And tell us exactly how Bush's pointless war in Iraq had any bearing whatsoever on the death of bin Laden.
My preceding post was meant in humor. This post is more serious.
Bush has NOT been in the WH for 66 months! Five & a half years! QUIT deflecting Obama discussions to something NOT about Obama decisions, & talking points of current events! WOW! Talk about 'pointless'
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32568 Aug 10, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Because, of course, there was no one in Afghanistan trying to kill American soldiers prior to bin Laden's death.
You have a point there. They very likely had terrorist training camps but so does Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia & more. Sadly, most of the 911'ers were from Saudi Arabia. One of the most secretive countries in the world.
Another reason that we need energy independence. But Obama won't help that along either.
Now in hindsight, it seems that we left Iraq too soon. I won't blame Obama for not having a crystal ball but the typical U.S. citizen does not have access to all of the info that he does. Heck, there are still secrets from WWII that haven't been released so we'll never know about Obama's so called 'most transparent presidency' in our life times if ever.

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