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Unions want money

Sunbury, OH

#43 Mar 5, 2011
Public worker wrote:
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When the power to negotiate salary is in total control of the state, that is taking our voice away. It is not OK to change starting salary (in my district) from 33k to 18k...when the state requires teachers to obtain multiple degrees to teach, they should be paid accordingly. Who wants to enter a profession that requires on average 100k education and only starts at 18k? Education will go down the drain!
Education is already down the drain and you lie about the wages , also if teachers can not teach they do not deserve a raise simple as that, Public workers pay are known and you are so full of it they are the upper class and beyond that so go lie to some fools at the union party.
Public worker

Springfield, OH

#44 Mar 5, 2011
Unions want money wrote:
<quoted text>Education is already down the drain and you lie about the wages , also if teachers can not teach they do not deserve a raise simple as that, Public workers pay are known and you are so full of it they are the upper class and beyond that so go lie to some fools at the union party.
how can I lie about wages when its public knowledge? I agree if teachers cannot teach they shouldn't get a raise, but merit pay (which is in the bill undefined) will not work for teachers. I am not upper class making 55k pre tax. Way to be mature hiding behind your monitor insulting others. You are a model citizen!
ron

Columbus, OH

#45 Mar 5, 2011
Post 911 era begins . Tea baggers attack middle class . The " we will never forget the sacrifices made by first providers " is forgotten . Tea party throws hopes and aspirations of working class and middle class into the harbor . This is not a revolution . This is tyranny paid for with corporate dollars . Make wall st pay for the disaster that they created not working people .
ron

Columbus, OH

#46 Mar 5, 2011
123hzl wrote:
The rest of us (non-union) have had to adjust and take either a pay cut, no increase, or well less then cost of living raise for the past 4 or so years. Why should unions be exempt from feeling the crunch that the rest of us have had.
Is any body on Wall st feeling the pinch ? NO ,. They created this problem and so has free trade , oil imports , outsourcing , downsizing and bad dovernment . Maske public employees pay for the excess of the rich is scaprgoating and avoiding the real issue Globilazation is a crime against the american way of life .: Why shouldnt other people suffer like I do" is a question only a sadomasochist should ask .
ron

Columbus, OH

#47 Mar 5, 2011
wwiz wrote:
Wall street companies are making record profits, why would anybody think its time to let workers unions get eradicated. I guess some non union employs just think it would make their disposition in the work place seem more bearable. Screw big business environmental nightmare, competitive wage (with China) asses.
We defeated the nazis and japan in WWII communism when the Berlin wall fell and now we face something worse than communism and that is the Tea Baggers . The next election may spell the end of american democracy . Corporations helped the governors party outspend the opposition five to one ,The next may be the last .
ron

Columbus, OH

#48 Mar 5, 2011
Stoptheinsanity wrote:
No teacher has ever gotten a 5% raise. In fact, in most cases we may get a 1-2% raise over two or three years. The media and the powers that be are so misinformed and shamefully reporting these myths to the public. This bill strips basic constitutional rights from Americans. Over 300.000 Ohioans lost their voice today and many families will be devastated, and those in favor say it's a necessary evil??? So were unions!!!
The tea bggers are asking us to suffer along with them . I would be interested to find out how much they have spent in this misinformation campaign . If they can eliminate collective bargaining they will surely be encouraged to fill out their right wing agenda . What next ?
tomuchtaxz

Columbus, OH

#49 Mar 5, 2011
"55k pretax" for not even a years worth of work....I say that's B.S.
ron

Columbus, OH

#50 Mar 5, 2011
Public worker wrote:
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how can I lie about wages when its public knowledge? I agree if teachers cannot teach they shouldn't get a raise, but merit pay (which is in the bill undefined) will not work for teachers. I am not upper class making 55k pre tax. Way to be mature hiding behind your monitor insulting others. You are a model citizen!
Yeah quit hiding behind your monitors apron strings . Thats tellin them .
tomuchtaxz

Columbus, OH

#51 Mar 5, 2011
Ron why are you resorting to name calling?? Can't you debate without the mud?
mantis

Lincoln Park, MI

#52 Mar 5, 2011
The unions built the middle class, without them it will be lost and then our children can fight for it again. Is that what some of you on this board want? If so that is just sad. No one is saying that the union folk should not take concessions, they are saying that they should not have their collective bargaining rights taken away. If all these big money lackeys just asked for concessions, they would get them, but they want rights and that will be fought against tooth and nail.
Doug

Olmsted Falls, OH

#53 Mar 6, 2011
It;s a shame that unions are taking this hit. The focus should be on jobs that went overseas, tax breaks for buisness and the golden parachutes of ceo's not to mention the banking crisis no one has gone to jail for. there needs to be a balance that nobody seems to be able to find.
ron

Columbus, OH

#54 Mar 6, 2011
tomuchtaxz wrote:
Ron why are you resorting to name calling?? Can't you debate without the mud?
Like Col Lipton said years ago If it stores like a tea bag , steeps when its boiled its a tea bag Otherwise its a %%##<)(^&% ing republican corporate clone parading as a member of an independent reform group . Rxcuse my dyslexic english usage I find it an effective pain reliever when faced with loss of benefits a cut in pay or loss of job .
Roger

Munroe Falls, OH

#55 Mar 10, 2011
I think people need to realize that most of the state corrections officers are most concerned about bargaining rights because of safety issues. The state and management are ALWAYS trying to find ways to cut posts at the prisons. The union has been a big factor in preventing dangerously low staffing levels. We have already taken pay freezes and other con sessions. We are willing to work with management to solve some of this crisis but so far that hasn't happened. We are plenty aware that we answer to the tax payers as we are taxpayers to. Also remember that not everyone could do this job. We have certain standards and qualifications we must complete every year. Alot of things we see and do would never happen in your everyday jobs. And remember we are always hiring so please feel free to apply and see how our pay and benefits compare to the jobs and situations we handle professionally everyday.

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