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BeWare

Henry, TN

#67 Dec 28, 2011
Actually they are called disparaging and erroneous statements against another pain management clinic.

Since: Aug 11

Redmond, OR

#68 Dec 28, 2011
BeWare wrote:
Again CHECK before making false statements. YOU don't know anything about the Preferred Pain Care Clinic just false statements as a rival clinic trying to
discredit a better clinic that has been checked and approved by those who DO matter.
I just told you the FACTS of what is sitting on my desk, sitting in front of me right this very moment and what I have seen happen. That clinic is not my rival. My clinic is far enough away that it is not a threat to mine. I DO know about it because I have had patients go straight to that one after being discharged from mine. I could care less because I DISCHARGED them for being dishonest, abusing their medications or testing positive for illicit drugs. But then I get a release of information from your clinic, one of them was the SAME DAY the person was discharged. Give me a break. A clinic like that is what gives pain management a bad name and makes it hard for people who truly need pain management to get it. Say what you want. I KNOW different. Money hungry people who have no clue what pain management is truly about.

Since: Aug 11

Redmond, OR

#69 Dec 28, 2011
BeWare wrote:
Actually they are called disparaging and erroneous statements against another pain management clinic.
Awwww....poor baby. Sue me...you would LOSE.
BeWare

Henry, TN

#70 Dec 28, 2011
..A request for information is NOT an acceptance to a pain management clinic, as you should know. It is a request for information to make a concerned
request for information on a patient and their previous medical history. If it is indeed still laying on your desk, why haven't you sent them the information
they requested so they may make that decision, the same way as you have stated you make decisions? Holding back information requests causes a
lot of the problems ALL pain management clinics seem to have when trying to make the decisions they need to make on acceptance to a new clinic.
The time you spend holding it on your desk is delaying the time they could be using to reject a new patient who has a bad record at another clinic.
Preferred Pain Care

Shelbyville, TN

#71 Dec 28, 2011
PS Here wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmm....I haven't heard many good things about it. A family member of the people who owned Breakthrough, after the way it was ran, and yes I have read the indictment, DOES give it a bad name. I know patients that have been discharged from my clinic for testing positive for illegal substances that turned right around and became patients there. I'm sorry, but that is not a "well run pain management clinic."
A person who tests positive for illicit drugs should not be accepted into another clinic. I have a request for records from your clinic sitting on my desk of a patient I discharged for falsifying medical documents AND tested positive for an illegal substance. Again, that is not well run. That is FACT. Now, sue me for slander. I have the proof.
We appreciated your concern for making sure clinics are run in a legitimate and professional manner. It seems you have gotten some incorrect information about this clinic and we may have sent you a request for a patient trying to get into this clinic. That's why we request those records because if we find the patient was discharged from another clinic due to aberrant behavior or misconduct, especially illicit drug use, then we will not accept them as a patient and they will never get a first visit. However, some patients are not happy with the clinic they are currently in for various reasons; distance, cost, insurance, personality conflict, etc. They should have the right to find the right clinic for themselves IF they are in fact good legitimate patients. I invite you to come see what we do or even give us a call. A provider will be more than happy to speak with you. Good clinics functioning in an ethical and legal fashion should work together and help to eliminate these pill mills that have done such an injustice to their patients leaving us to clean up their mess and causing the huge narcotic abuse problem in our community.

Since: Aug 11

Redmond, OR

#72 Dec 29, 2011
Preferred Pain Care wrote:
<quoted text>
We appreciated your concern for making sure clinics are run in a legitimate and professional manner. It seems you have gotten some incorrect information about this clinic and we may have sent you a request for a patient trying to get into this clinic. That's why we request those records because if we find the patient was discharged from another clinic due to aberrant behavior or misconduct, especially illicit drug use, then we will not accept them as a patient and they will never get a first visit. However, some patients are not happy with the clinic they are currently in for various reasons; distance, cost, insurance, personality conflict, etc. They should have the right to find the right clinic for themselves IF they are in fact good legitimate patients. I invite you to come see what we do or even give us a call. A provider will be more than happy to speak with you. Good clinics functioning in an ethical and legal fashion should work together and help to eliminate these pill mills that have done such an injustice to their patients leaving us to clean up their mess and causing the huge narcotic abuse problem in our community.
I appreciate your response and I apologize for being harsh. I will keep an open mind from here out about Preferred Pain. If I have been misinformed then again, my apologies. I have heard about so many places (and unfortunately Preferred Pain came up) that do nothing but run patients through like cattle to make as much money as they can, not concerned with the patient or their health. I agree that all legit pain management clinics should work together to eliminate the problems the pill mills have created. Unfortunately the new regulations are not only going to close some bad clinics, they are also going to close some legit ones. I myself am extremely frustrated with the State with the way they have handled this and know there is a better way that will benefit both them and the legit clinics. I am in the process of working on a few things that I hope others will join in on so we can show the State that pain management can be accomplished appropriately. Unfortunately there is no way to catch everyone that is involved in illegal activities with the narcotics they are prescribed but, hopefully, in the near future the State, DEA and clinics will all be able to work together, instead of against each other. After all, the bottom line and most important thing is the health and welfare of the legitimate pain patient.

Since: Aug 11

Redmond, OR

#73 Dec 29, 2011
BeWare wrote:
..A request for information is NOT an acceptance to a pain management clinic, as you should know. It is a request for information to make a concerned
request for information on a patient and their previous medical history. If it is indeed still laying on your desk, why haven't you sent them the information
they requested so they may make that decision, the same way as you have stated you make decisions? Holding back information requests causes a
lot of the problems ALL pain management clinics seem to have when trying to make the decisions they need to make on acceptance to a new clinic.
The time you spend holding it on your desk is delaying the time they could be using to reject a new patient who has a bad record at another clinic.
I am not "holding" the records. It remains sitting on my desk for many reasons. First, I have been just a little busy with making sure all the i's are dotted and t's are crossed at my own clinic. Second, there were shorter hours and days the clinic were closed for the holidays. Third, our records are EMR which means they have to be printed out before they can be faxed. And last, but certainly not least, and most important, this is the THIRD request for this patients records from as many clinics in the past two months. Considering this person was involved in illegal activities which we caught him/her at, thus why he/she was discharged, I am under no obligation to make it my top priority to yet again print this persons records and then fax them. That takes not only time, but paper, ink and then the charges to fax them. Rest assured, it will get done, but not until the other more important things the people in my office have to do, are done. I'm sure the other clinic understands that there are sometimes a delay in records for many reasons and a clinic is not going to hold open an appointment time for someone they don't have records for, so all it is doing is delaying this person getting denied yet again.
BeWare

Henry, TN

#74 Dec 29, 2011
.. When you are complaining about the other clinics being so "unprofessional" and " Money hungry people who have no clue what pain management is truly about"
by accepting the patients you kicked out for illegal activities, you should want to stop those people from even being considered by making sure your replies are
timely. Sure all the other clinics have the same bills to pay that you do, but being responsible and getting information out as soon as possible when requested
would be a great help when "After all, the bottom line and most important thing is the health and welfare of the legitimate pain patient."
Watchdog

Manchester, TN

#75 Dec 29, 2011
To P S Here:

It appears that you have backed down a bit trying to explain yourself to this Preferred Pain. Your reasoning for not turning in your paperwork seemed reasonable if you are indeed trying to weed out those patients who are not legitimate. It sounds as though Preferred Pain and others are pushing you to add yet another illegal patient into their web so please do not fall prey. You were on the right track when you spoke of the definition of slander and the facts you feel you know. Please allow me to elaborate and possibly help your cause.



The legal definition of slander is in which someone tells one or more persons an untruth about another that which the untruth will harm the reputation of the person defamed. The key word is untruth.



You were somewhat correct when you brought up the brother aspect. The brother of certain persons arrested at the Breakthrough clinic is the one who bought the building permit for Preferred Pain. This is public record which in turn makes this fact. He is the husband of the current owner of the Preferred Pain clinic. The owner of Preferred Pain is also public record which makes this fact. Employees currently working at Preferred Pain also worked at Breakthrough due to them trying to keep this business within the family. Employment records and marriage licenses make these statements factual.



There have also been statements made by a family member, working at Preferred Pain, in public. Apparently this employee indulges in drinking in public and shares her involvement and her families involvement with the two clinics and their many illegitimate acts. Depending on which person you ask makes this a known fact. It is unfortunate for Preferred Pain but helpful to the public to have this kind of information being spread around due to their own employees. Due to my professionalism I will not list any names. However, as I have said, this is all public record.

I have involvement with this cause due to my profession. My secretary and I keep track of these forums and try to assist in such cases. I applaud you and others for trying to help those in true need and assist in informing people of clinics such as Preferred Pain that are only in the business for the money. They can try to hide behind words speaking of truth and values but these are only misleading...they are not fact. That would be irony. Eventually names will come out, the truth will be known and they will be shut down again. Unfortunately, there will be people hurt in the process. Those of you who truly need help know who you are and should seek medical assistance elsewhere.
Preferred Pain Care

Cottontown, TN

#76 Dec 29, 2011
Watchdog wrote:
To P S Here:
It appears that you have backed down a bit trying to explain yourself to this Preferred Pain. Your reasoning for not turning in your paperwork seemed reasonable if you are indeed trying to weed out those patients who are not legitimate. It sounds as though Preferred Pain and others are pushing you to add yet another illegal patient into their web so please do not fall prey. You were on the right track when you spoke of the definition of slander and the facts you feel you know. Please allow me to elaborate and possibly help your cause.
The legal definition of slander is in which someone tells one or more persons an untruth about another that which the untruth will harm the reputation of the person defamed. The key word is untruth.
You were somewhat correct when you brought up the brother aspect. The brother of certain persons arrested at the Breakthrough clinic is the one who bought the building permit for Preferred Pain. This is public record which in turn makes this fact. He is the husband of the current owner of the Preferred Pain clinic. The owner of Preferred Pain is also public record which makes this fact. Employees currently working at Preferred Pain also worked at Breakthrough due to them trying to keep this business within the family. Employment records and marriage licenses make these statements factual.
There have also been statements made by a family member, working at Preferred Pain, in public. Apparently this employee indulges in drinking in public and shares her involvement and her families involvement with the two clinics and their many illegitimate acts. Depending on which person you ask makes this a known fact. It is unfortunate for Preferred Pain but helpful to the public to have this kind of information being spread around due to their own employees. Due to my professionalism I will not list any names. However, as I have said, this is all public record.
I have involvement with this cause due to my profession. My secretary and I keep track of these forums and try to assist in such cases. I applaud you and others for trying to help those in true need and assist in informing people of clinics such as Preferred Pain that are only in the business for the money. They can try to hide behind words speaking of truth and values but these are only misleading...they are not fact. That would be irony. Eventually names will come out, the truth will be known and they will be shut down again. Unfortunately, there will be people hurt in the process. Those of you who truly need help know who you are and should seek medical assistance elsewhere.
The only thing I will say is we welcome you and anyone into our clinic anytime to see what we do here. We are welcoming to all law enforcement and the state of Tennessee without warning. We have nothing to hide.

Since: Aug 11

Redmond, OR

#77 Dec 29, 2011
BeWare wrote:
.. When you are complaining about the other clinics being so "unprofessional" and " Money hungry people who have no clue what pain management is truly about"
by accepting the patients you kicked out for illegal activities, you should want to stop those people from even being considered by making sure your replies are
timely. Sure all the other clinics have the same bills to pay that you do, but being responsible and getting information out as soon as possible when requested
would be a great help when "After all, the bottom line and most important thing is the health and welfare of the legitimate pain patient."
Responsibility...I have plenty of that and if you are so concerned about one patient who is not legit then so be it. I have enough to do without bowing to this persons multiple attempts to obtain medication that they don't need. It is MY TIME and MY MONEY that has to pay for this persons records to be sent again. I will get to it when the more important issues are taken care of. End of discussion about this person. I've had enough of them.

Since: Aug 11

Redmond, OR

#78 Dec 29, 2011
Watchdog wrote:
To P S Here:
It appears that you have backed down a bit trying to explain yourself to this Preferred Pain. Your reasoning for not turning in your paperwork seemed reasonable if you are indeed trying to weed out those patients who are not legitimate. It sounds as though Preferred Pain and others are pushing you to add yet another illegal patient into their web so please do not fall prey. You were on the right track when you spoke of the definition of slander and the facts you feel you know. Please allow me to elaborate and possibly help your cause.
The legal definition of slander is in which someone tells one or more persons an untruth about another that which the untruth will harm the reputation of the person defamed. The key word is untruth.
You were somewhat correct when you brought up the brother aspect. The brother of certain persons arrested at the Breakthrough clinic is the one who bought the building permit for Preferred Pain. This is public record which in turn makes this fact. He is the husband of the current owner of the Preferred Pain clinic. The owner of Preferred Pain is also public record which makes this fact. Employees currently working at Preferred Pain also worked at Breakthrough due to them trying to keep this business within the family. Employment records and marriage licenses make these statements factual.
There have also been statements made by a family member, working at Preferred Pain, in public. Apparently this employee indulges in drinking in public and shares her involvement and her families involvement with the two clinics and their many illegitimate acts. Depending on which person you ask makes this a known fact. It is unfortunate for Preferred Pain but helpful to the public to have this kind of information being spread around due to their own employees. Due to my professionalism I will not list any names. However, as I have said, this is all public record.
I have involvement with this cause due to my profession. My secretary and I keep track of these forums and try to assist in such cases. I applaud you and others for trying to help those in true need and assist in informing people of clinics such as Preferred Pain that are only in the business for the money. They can try to hide behind words speaking of truth and values but these are only misleading...they are not fact. That would be irony. Eventually names will come out, the truth will be known and they will be shut down again. Unfortunately, there will be people hurt in the process. Those of you who truly need help know who you are and should seek medical assistance elsewhere.
Exactly. I don't have to make that person's paperwork my top priority when I have legitimate patients that need prior authorizations and insurance papers that need to be filled out.

If a clinic is legit I wish them well. If not, I hope they close. I want pain management to have a decent name so people understand that there ARE people that need care.

Thanks for the information :)
Princess

Nashville, TN

#79 Jan 4, 2012
Preferred Pain Management you are rediculous, first off, making someone else look bad does not make you look good. I have been to your clinic and you have the nerve to talk about someone else. I am new to pain management and all you are saying about your competition is a lie. Now for you, what real professional is on here slamming another one can I say PROFESSIONAL which you are not. I will discharge myself from your clinic in the morning because if this is how you run yOur after hours as a new patient and new to this I don't want to be a patient any place that is so unprofessional. So I will call in the morning and discharge myself.
Shonuff5

Hermitage, TN

#80 Jan 5, 2012
PS Here wrote:
<quoted text>
"Reaching out to those who have no other options??" You are not helping anyone with with the fees you charge. This is not google nor is it your website. You want to advertise on there then fine, go right ahead. But this is not the place to do it.
You cannot effectively monitor a patient that comes to you from out of state. And if you cannot effectively monitor them, or do not require a referral or documented medical need for pain management then you are not legit. And I'm not talking about people bringing their medical records in themselves. Anyone can get fake records online.
When did you become CEO of topix? Who are you to tell what, when, or where is the place to advertise? lol WOW
Shonuff5

Hermitage, TN

#81 Jan 5, 2012
I will say that after reading this thread the only clinic I would even consider going to from the ones in this thread is Georgia Wellness. As far as preferred pain care goes I was seriously considering this clinic until I read this thread. it appears all anyone will get from preferred pain care is treated like a junkie or criminal. No thanks.

Since: Aug 11

Ooltewah, TN

#82 Jan 5, 2012
Shonuff5 wrote:
<quoted text>
When did you become CEO of topix? Who are you to tell what, when, or where is the place to advertise? lol WOW
I wasn't trying to be "CEO" of topix. You go right ahead and go to Georgia Wellness if that's where you want to go.$400 a visit....guess you enjoy being ripped off. I don't care for Preferred Pain either but for a place in Georgia to basically be begging people from Tennessee (and who knows where else) to go down there is absolutely pathetic. It should be illegal to go into another state to get narcotics, at least until a nationwide controlled substance database is started. It's hard enough to monitor what is prescribed in Tennessee but then to have to worry that same person is going to Georgia makes it harder to tell legit patients from ones who are pill seeking or getting them to sell. Getting control of the problem on the street starts within each State.
Shonuff5

Höst, Germany

#83 Jan 6, 2012
PS Here wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't trying to be "CEO" of topix. You go right ahead and go to Georgia Wellness if that's where you want to go.$400 a visit....guess you enjoy being ripped off. I don't care for Preferred Pain either but for a place in Georgia to basically be begging people from Tennessee (and who knows where else) to go down there is absolutely pathetic. It should be illegal to go into another state to get narcotics, at least until a nationwide controlled substance database is started. It's hard enough to monitor what is prescribed in Tennessee but then to have to worry that same person is going to Georgia makes it harder to tell legit patients from ones who are pill seeking or getting them to sell. Getting control of the problem on the street starts within each State.
I can appreciate your concern as I have 2 lil girls and my biggest fear is something happening to one of them or one of them getting strung out on drugs but what everyone has to understand is that no Clinic or DEA agent alone can fix this problem. This is a problem that only each individual will have to fix themselves. This is big business and no matter what the government claims, the fact is they're making way too much money for drugs in this country to ever end.

Best thing any clinic can do is stay in compliance and not go over the top cause it will only fuel the fire. Have to let people make their own decisions. Look out for your children and family and stop trying to change people who don't want change.

Since: Aug 11

Ooltewah, TN

#84 Jan 7, 2012
Shonuff5 wrote:
<quoted text>
I can appreciate your concern as I have 2 lil girls and my biggest fear is something happening to one of them or one of them getting strung out on drugs but what everyone has to understand is that no Clinic or DEA agent alone can fix this problem. This is a problem that only each individual will have to fix themselves. This is big business and no matter what the government claims, the fact is they're making way too much money for drugs in this country to ever end.
Best thing any clinic can do is stay in compliance and not go over the top cause it will only fuel the fire. Have to let people make their own decisions. Look out for your children and family and stop trying to change people who don't want change.
You are right. The only was a person is going to change is if they want to. The unfortunate thing about drugs is they have been around for a long time and there will always be some kind of problem. If they took oxycodone off the market it would be something else. The only way to even TRY to get some kind of handle on the problems is for clinics to stay in compliance, as you said, and for the clinics and law enforcement to work together. Unfortunately the regulations here in Tennessee need a little tweaking. They are good but there are still some things that need to be added and/or changed. We will get them there, just gonna take some more work. Work that involves everyone. I have four girls, all grown now, One got involved in drugs and we got her the help she needed when she came to her senses and realized what she was doing to herself. She was a legal adult when it started. All we can do is teach our children good values but in the end it will be up to them whether they apply those values to their own lives or not. All four girls are happy and healthy now. I can't ask God for much more than that.:)
Have a good one.
boywonder

Manchester, TN

#85 Jan 8, 2012
BeWare wrote:
The owners are absolutely denying that statement. As we said previously know your FACTS before you make a statement regarding something you know
nothing about. It is safer than making a blank statement with no knowledge of the truth.
U wer provd wrong on that eh?
Its me again

Greer, SC

#87 Jan 10, 2012
I live near GA state line and I go to ga pain clinic I do get treated different as if I wer drug seller c I live 19 miles from the line in Tn! Some pharmacies won't fill my scripts cause it's from out of state so I have to travel around to pharmacies c who will fill em wich sucks case it takes days sometimes :( it's not like I was from far away states like I have seen from Indiana ! That's little too far to travel unless ur dealing!!!!!! Grrrrrrrrr

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