Initiative targets illegal immigrants

Sep 1, 2008 Full story: www.heraldnet.com 11

A group that fights illegal immigration is gathering signatures to submit an initiative that would toughen current laws, but leaders of the group say they're not sure how the initiative's vague language would ...

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Not PC

Corona, CA

#1 Sep 1, 2008
I wish I could read just one story where people that enter this country illegally are called what they are, illegal aliens, instead of the politically correct term, illegal immigrant. "Initiative targets illegal immigrants". Just once I would like to read a newspaper article, or hear television newscaster, call them what they really are. Do you suppose anyone, in any of the medias, will ever grow a set and do this?

Residents of Washington state, please keep on top of this issue, do not allow your beautiful state to end up like California, or as it will soon be called, Mexifornia.
Hand of Doom

Lakewood, NJ

#2 Sep 1, 2008
Respect Washington can't even hide its contempt for immigrant families. Went straight for the jugular. I wonder what benefits Washington state has for 14-year-olds

“Green card?”

Since: Jan 08

Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico

#3 Sep 1, 2008
Hand of Doom wrote:
Respect Washington can't even hide its contempt for immigrant families. Went straight for the jugular. I wonder what benefits Washington state has for 14-year-olds
Immigrant families? This article is not about "immigrant families, KURT, Its about illegal alien criminal scum.
pro-undocumented people

Fresno, CA

#4 Sep 1, 2008
people who enter the US "illegal" are not from outerspace. they're not aliens. they're undocumented people. we white people are not here legally. whose permission did our ancestors seek when they came here and raped women and killed children and destroyed their lands? even when our government set up treaties to attempt to make the genocide and occupation of the americas legal, the us gov't has broken every treaty. so we are here illegaly even by our own standards.

so think about who is really here illegally before you go blaming undocumented immigrants for society's problems.

furthermore, why are immigrants coming here? US gov't and corporations are ravaging the ecosystems of countries around the world, supporting brutal dictators and political oppression, and decimating peoples' abilities to make a living. why do you think people from these poor countries are coming here?

also, where did your great-grandparents come from? they weren't by any chance aliens, were they?

stop your fascist rhetoric. you sound like a good german.
the real scum

Fresno, CA

#5 Sep 1, 2008
rogerg-
nazi-like pieces of crap like you are the scum. you're a fascist tool. now go report me to the government, you good german.

ignorant, virulent anti-immigrant poor excuses for human beings like you should be lynched. or at least made to clean the toilets after the revolution.

Since: Apr 07

Columbus, OH

#6 Sep 2, 2008
the real scum wrote:
rogerg-
nazi-like pieces of crap like you are the scum. you're a fascist tool. now go report me to the government, you good german.
ignorant, virulent anti-immigrant poor excuses for human beings like you should be lynched. or at least made to clean the toilets after the revolution.
Nazis huh?
History repeats itself. Hitler invaded Poland and all of Europe. Hispanic & Muslim nations now invade the U.S.; world conquest is the Objective.
Hitler convinced the German People their neighbors were the cause of their economic problems. He convinced them the only way to recover was to recognize their inherent right to invade and take back land they had stolen from them. Germans were declared the supreme race and all others were inferiors who did not deserve to live. It was their heritage as proud Aryan people, it was their duty to take over the world and repopulate it with the master race.
Former Mexican President Vicente Fox, and current President Calderón both insist where a Mexican stands, is also Mexico. They insist they have a right to cross international borders to resolve economic crises they blame on their neighbor. They demand a union between all nations in the America’s for Mutual Prosperity and Security to honor the racial heritage of the latinos.
Mexican Consulate offices and affiliated political action groups like La Raza, La Voz de Aztlan, Mecha, http://www.ccir.net/mecha.html “MEChA receives tax funds. Per UCLA's JACQELINE CARRASCO, "Most chapters get their budget from the (tax funded) schools and sometimes from the associated students. Funds range from $100 to $8000 for larger schools such as Cal State Northridge."
Anti-American literature is published on multiple campuses featuring MEChA material. Some include El Popo, Aztlan News, Chispas, Gente de Aztlan (UCLA heros are Che Guevera, Augusto Cesar Sandino, Simon Bolivar and Salvadoran Stalinist, Farabundo Marti). Others are VOZ FRONTERIZA (U.C. San Diego), LA VOZ MESTIZA (U.C. Irvine) and LA VOZ BERKELEY referring to the U.S., as AMERIKKKA, celebrating the death of a Border Patrol agent and identifying conservative U.S. representatives as "Nazi Pigs." and other Hispanics Speak out CCIR quotes : http://www.americanpatrol.com/CCIR/MolinaOble... :
Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets: "Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock. Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over.”
Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. "They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They're right. We will take them over ... We are here to stay."
Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico : "The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot."
Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas "We have an aging white America . They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population. I love it. They are sh---ing in their pants with fear. I love it."
Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, "Remember 187--proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens--it was the last gasp of white America in California " Gloria Molina,Los Angeles County Supervisor, "We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country. I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, "I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back."
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/405...
Declare your war on national tv or stfu.
Belly bumping is all your doing,come on big guy declare your war.
Take the first swing.

“Green card?”

Since: Jan 08

Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico

#7 Sep 2, 2008
pro-undocumented people wrote:
people who enter the US "illegal" are not from outerspace. they're not aliens. they're undocumented people. we white people are not here legally. whose permission did our ancestors seek when they came here and raped women and killed children and destroyed their lands? even when our government set up treaties to attempt to make the genocide and occupation of the americas legal, the us gov't has broken every treaty. so we are here illegaly even by our own standards.
so think about who is really here illegally before you go blaming undocumented immigrants for society's problems.
furthermore, why are immigrants coming here? US gov't and corporations are ravaging the ecosystems of countries around the world, supporting brutal dictators and political oppression, and decimating peoples' abilities to make a living. why do you think people from these poor countries are coming here?
also, where did your great-grandparents come from? they weren't by any chance aliens, were they?
stop your fascist rhetoric. you sound like a good german.
Maybe you could explain why the get busted for having "documents" then?
No. the are criminal illegal aliens, I prefer the legal term.
"whose permission did our ancestors seek when they came here and raped women and killed children and destroyed their lands?
My family is American Indian, Irish, and Mexican, would you care to rephrase your question?
"why do you think people from these poor countries are coming here?"
Let me see, to sneak in, hide, use false documents, sell dope, rape, steal, rob, lie, molest children, drive drunk and kill people, am I close?

“Green card?”

Since: Jan 08

Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico

#8 Sep 2, 2008
the real scum wrote:
rogerg-
nazi-like pieces of crap like you are the scum. you're a fascist tool. now go report me to the government, you good german.
ignorant, virulent anti-immigrant poor excuses for human beings like you should be lynched. or at least made to clean the toilets after the revolution.
Revolution? Better get jumpin' cause your army is on it's way back here to Mexico, and that is sad for Mexico. We managed to send or influence the vast majority of our trash to head north, but, alas, they are returning in droves now. Are you one of those the Mexican government managed to get rid of?
"anti-immigrant" no anti-illegal alien invader, yes. Get a green card (like me) or get your butt out, scum!
Not PC

Corona, CA

#9 Sep 2, 2008
pro-undocumented people wrote:
people who enter the US "illegal" are not from outerspace. they're not aliens. they're undocumented people. we white people are not here legally. whose permission did our ancestors seek when they came here and raped women and killed children and destroyed their lands? even when our government set up treaties to attempt to make the genocide and occupation of the americas legal, the us gov't has broken every treaty. so we are here illegaly even by our own standards....
Actually, there were no immigration laws in 1492 when the Europeans came here so, they weren't illegal. The American Indian welcomed the Europeans, even though it cost them dearly by doing so. And yes, three of my great-grandparents immigrated here, LEGALLY, the fourth one was born here. Whatever laws we didn't have then doesn't negate the fact that we do have immigration laws now. Any person entering this country without permission is a criminal and is breaking the law, just like a burglar breaking into your home would be. Were there immigration laws in Mexico when the Spaniards invaded it? So what does that make them? Did they not rape, murder, steal and plunder? Next you'll be telling us that America stole this land from Mexico, right?
Now, regarding your reference to an alien being from outer space. That may also be true but, aliens from outer space are not the ones bleeding this country dry economically and savaging it socially. It's true, most Americans don't want the "veggie" picking jobs but, what about the middle of the road blue collar jobs? The factory jobs? And especially, what about all the construction jobs? Sure, "greedy" business owners have hired them, so fine them, make it so punitive that they quake in their boots to even think about doing it. Stop with the free citizenship for squat and drops kids, stop with the freebies of ALL kinds. Then, help them to straighten out their own government, help them get their own country on its feet. We, speaking of BOTH countries, would be far better served to do this than suffer the mess we have now. Yes, I am speaking primarily about Mexico because, face it, they outnumber illegal aliens from other countries by about oh... let's say 20,000, and probably more than that, to one.
Oh, just in case you're interested, here's the definition of the word alien in the Merriam Webster's dictionary
Used as an adjuctive:
1alien
Pronunciation:\ˈ& #257;-lē-ən, ˈāl-y&#6 01;n
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin alienus, from alius
Date: 14th century
1 a: belonging or relating to another person, place, or thing : strange b: relating, belonging, or owing allegiance to another country or government : foreign c: exotic 12: differing in nature or character typically to the point of incompatibility
Used as a noun:
Main Entry:
2alien
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1: a person of another family, race, or nation
2: a foreign-born resident who has not been naturalized and is still a subject or citizen of a foreign country; broadly : a foreign-born citizen
Used as a transitive verb:
Main Entry:
3alien
Function: transitive verb
Date: 14th century
Another interesting fact, have you checked out Mexico's immigration policy regarding persons entering their country both LEGALLY AND ILLEGALLY? If we used Mexico's immigration laws we wouldn't have hardly any problems with the invasion of illegal aliens.
So enough with the "oh poor immigrant" b.s. from you? How about we fix our own country first, then, we go help them fix theirs?
Not PC

Corona, CA

#10 Sep 2, 2008
pro-undocumented people wrote:
people who enter the US "illegal" are not from outerspace. they're not aliens. they're undocumented people. we white people are not here legally. whose permission did our ancestors seek when they came here and raped women and killed children and destroyed their lands? even when our government set up treaties to attempt to make the genocide and occupation of the americas legal, the us gov't has broken every treaty. so we are here illegaly even by our own standards.
so think about who is really here illegally before you go blaming undocumented immigrants for society's problems.
furthermore, why are immigrants coming here? US gov't and corporations are ravaging the ecosystems of countries around the world, supporting brutal dictators and political oppression, and decimating peoples' abilities to make a living. why do you think people from these poor countries are coming here?
also, where did your great-grandparents come from? they weren't by any chance aliens, were they?
stop your fascist rhetoric. you sound like a good german.
Here's something you might find interesting. This video was shot by a young man pretending to be for the elimination of "white people" in America at a rally supporting the "rights" of illegal aliens.

Lou Voren

Costa Mesa, CA

#11 Sep 2, 2008
The title reads"

"Initiative targets illegal immigrants"

Rather than targeting illegal aliens with "initiatives", maybe they should be targeted through the cross-hairs of a rifle scope when they cross the boarder illegally!

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