Who do you support for U.S. Senate in...

“Frankly Real Estate”

Since: Oct 10

Poulsbo, WA

#87 Oct 15, 2010
Northie wrote......"home ownership, a secure retirement, access to health care...all are now going or gone, thanks to the corporate takeover of government that has been under way for the past thirty years"

We live in a capitalist society. One in which we enjoy more freedoms and access to more goods and services than any other country in the world. Our home individual ownership is more than any in the world....the quality, skill and the care delivered medically is the best in the world. All developed in a capitalist system....a free and open market. The more the government gets involved the more regulated, chocked and stifled it will become.

You also said " but it is also hugely unfair, with a third of Americans uninsured or underinsured, with insurance companies refusing anyone with a pre-existing condition and dropping anyone who gets sick. No other rich nation has these problems because they all regulate the industry; it's about time we do the same."

What would be an example of a "rich nation" England/UK...I can tell you they have people waiting in line for treatment. Canada....funny...they come across to our country to get treatment that is being put off in their country too. Granted...our system is not perfect but why are you so eager to through it all out...the grass is not greener. Where are you getting your information...it is so sweeping and totally wrong. Have you ever traveled abroad? Please do so and you will learn people in other countries would love to have what we have. Get out from behind your TV, talk to people outside your immediate sphere of influence and you will see you are actually living in a pretty great place.

“Seeker Of TRUE JUSTICE”

Since: Mar 08

Yakima

#88 Oct 15, 2010
From experiences with Government employees which is what they are, I do not trust them/ Look at any one and you hear lie's. See FACE BOOK JUSTICE SEEKERS AMERICA and see : my face book, Alex Como SR There is a total breakdown of America.
chad

Bainbridge Island, WA

#89 Oct 16, 2010
The lesser of two evils.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#90 Oct 16, 2010
FranklyRE wrote:
FranklyRE wrote:
"We live in a capitalist society. One in which we enjoy more freedoms and access to more goods and services than any other country in the world. Our home individual ownership is more than any in the world....the quality, skill and the care delivered medically is the best in the world. All developed in a capitalist system....a free and open market."
Frank, what would happen to your real estate sales if the Federal government eliminated the taxpayer subsidy of mortgage interest? How about if capital gains on property sales were once again taxed at the same rate as income for working people is? Or what if the Federal government had not bailed out the entire banking and real estate sector with trillions in loans, credits and outright handouts over the past three years?

You would likely be out of business if not for this taxpayer largesse, my friend. Don't preach free-market fundamentalism while suckling at the Federal tit. Although you sound like a well-meaning sort, I don't think you know just how hard hit the American consumer economy is, nor how much wealth most Americans have lost to the rich.

We are by far the hardest working people in the developed world, yet, hour for working hour, we now have less to show for our efforts than people in any other rich nation do--and that is about to hit home in a big way over the next two decades as the younger, larger end of the baby boom tries to retire, to put kids through college and to pay for health care extortion all at the same time.

Meanwhile, the richest one percent are enjoying wealth such as the world has never seen.

This is all new, Frank. Call it robbery, or class war or whatever you will. It sucks, and it won't improve until we fight together to improve it.
jerry

United States

#91 Oct 16, 2010
Rossi is a shill for the highest bidder.
Jobs

United States

#92 Oct 16, 2010
The poor need jobs so they do not slip into the abyss of violence and depression created by having no employment whatsoever and no hope for their future. A job , no matter how low paying can be a start, a way to build skills and a chance for more. College is great if you can afford rent, tuition and food and utilities - not always possible for the poor with children who comprise the majority of poor in our country. Jobs are destroyed by liberals. Give us jobs - We have seen first hand the difference those having jobs in Kenya live compared to those who do not. It is a matter of life and death in third world countries. I am sick of hearing liberals say poor people are happy when referring to the poor overseas. You are full of crap if you think that they do not bleed tears when their children die of starvation or diseases because they have no job and opportunity to provide for their families. You are misguided when you think commercialism is evil. Evil is when you hold the attitude that people have no hearts and do not need to have the chance at a better life even though you yourself do all you can to get that for yourself. I say those who are against commercialism, give up your job and become homeless so someone else you appreciates having a job can have your job.
Charley Buckley

United States

#93 Oct 16, 2010
I think we get more balanced legislation with equal representation between Dems and Reps. The Dems lose control with their spending habits when they are in the majority. I vote for equal representation.
Shawn

Seattle, WA

#94 Oct 16, 2010
Rossi has no interest in helping anyone but his business cohorts and Tim Eyman. I am voting for Murray but I am also voting NO on all of those awful initiatives as well.

“Frankly Real Estate”

Since: Oct 10

Poulsbo, WA

#95 Oct 16, 2010
Northie wrote:
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Frank, what would happen to your real estate sales if the Federal government eliminated the taxpayer subsidy of mortgage interest? How about if capital gains on property sales were once again taxed at the same rate as income for working people is? Or what if the Federal government had not bailed out the entire banking and real estate sector with trillions in loans, credits and outright handouts over the past three years?
You would likely be out of business if not for this taxpayer largesse, my friend. Don't preach free-market fundamentalism while suckling at the Federal tit. Although you sound like a well-meaning sort, I don't think you know just how hard hit the American consumer economy is, nor how much wealth most Americans have lost to the rich.
We are by far the hardest working people in the developed world, yet, hour for working hour, we now have less to show for our efforts than people in any other rich nation do--and that is about to hit home in a big way over the next two decades as the younger, larger end of the baby boom tries to retire, to put kids through college and to pay for health care extortion all at the same time.
Meanwhile, the richest one percent are enjoying wealth such as the world has never seen.
This is all new, Frank. Call it robbery, or class war or whatever you will. It sucks, and it won't improve until we fight together to improve it.
I'm not sure what handouts or government help you are referring to regarding real estate. Most real estate practitioners are working twice as hard and making half the pay. upwards of 40% have left the business in our area. Yes, eliminating the interest deduction would hurt our business but more importantly it would hurt the average american who owns a home. I feel like you are swapping sides here Northie. This is the government that you seem to want more of that has mishandled the so called bail out. You also again refer to "rich nations" What are you holding out as a standard for a rich nation? Regardless of the balance....or in some cases the mis-balance we are still the most fortunate country in the world. Having said that we do seem to be standing on the precipice of greater government intervention. This bail out was mishandled, government run health care is looking not only very expensive but ill-conceived and inefficient...just about everything the government does becomes full of access and waste. Less government, more free enterprise.

I think it is important to look at the big picture. Is our generation...you and me..better off than our parants generation....I would say yes. Next, will our children be better off than we are. I still think yes though the big challenges facing them are Healthcare, immigration and education. All of which are broken but this health care package that has been passed is not the answer....no one has guts enough to handle the immigration challenge and the unions are too strong to allow what needs to be done within the education system....and wow this conversation has stayed......good one though..Thank you.
j

Bremerton, WA

#96 Oct 16, 2010
Patty Murray supported the horrible health care bill, has horrible spending habits, and taxes succesful business (which supply jobs, thus they fire people cuz they can't afford it,cauzing more unemployment, which has a trickle down effect). This happens just because she spends so god damn much money.

Since: May 09

Marysville, WA

#97 Oct 16, 2010
Dino is for smaller government and less taxes. Makes sense in a faultering, failing economy.
Gordon

Seattle, WA

#98 Oct 16, 2010
Alex Como Sr wrote:
From experiences with Government employees which is what they are, I do not trust them/ Look at any one and you hear lie's. See FACE BOOK JUSTICE SEEKERS AMERICA and see : my face book, Alex Como SR There is a total breakdown of America.
You are Correct. The CFR runs the country, and almost every elected official is just a sold out scardy cat puppet. Our military takes it orders from the Queen of England and the Rothschild Illuminati, Bilderberg banksters. They are all criminals. I would rather die poor than burn in hell with them. I feel sorry for them. Hell is waiting.

Obama = Bush

Where is Bin Laden ?

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#99 Oct 17, 2010
Gordon wrote:
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You are Correct. The CFR runs the country, and almost every elected official is just a sold out scardy cat puppet. Our military takes it orders from the Queen of England and the Rothschild Illuminati, Bilderberg banksters. They are all criminals. I would rather die poor than burn in hell with them. I feel sorry for them. Hell is waiting.
Obama = Bush
Where is Bin Laden ?
"Gordon"
What have you been smoking? What a loon.
Where is bin Laden? Ask former president Bill Clinton, he had 3 opportunities to take him and refused because of legal reasons. He cared about legalities? An admitted liar.
President Nobama = Failure
Peace
Edward

Seattle, WA

#100 Oct 17, 2010
Dino is only running to support his business cronies and further cripple public spending on things we do need like education.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#101 Oct 17, 2010
Shawn wrote:
Rossi has no interest in helping anyone but his business cohorts and Tim Eyman. I am voting for Murray but I am also voting NO on all of those awful initiatives as well.
Agreed, and most of the initiatives do reek of corporate payola. However, you might consider voting for I-1098.

It shifts tax burdens in the other direction, for a change, cutting property taxes and B&O taxes in favor of a strictly limited income tax on the wealthiest 1.2% of households. It's about time, in my view; we're one of only six states without an income tax, and, of those, one of only two that don't rely on oil and mining royalties to fund state government. In other words, an income tax on multi-millionaires is way overdue here. The money I-1098 raises is dedicated to education and health care, both of which need help.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#102 Oct 17, 2010
FranklyRE wrote:
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I'm not sure what handouts or government help you are referring to regarding real estate...Is our generation...you and me..better off than our parants generation....I would say yes. Next, will our children be better off than we are....no one has guts enough to handle the immigration challenge and the unions are too strong to allow what needs to be done within the education system.
1) The real estate and banking industries would now be half their present size if not for subsidies and bailouts--both recent efforts like TARP and long-term subsidies like tax breaks for mortgage interest and capital gains. Most businesses don't enjoy those bennies, and we're losing our shorts right now. Especially if we depend on consumer spending, as most US businesses do.

2) Our generation is NOT better off than our parents were at the same age. Median wages began falling in 1974, and they've declined ever since! For the first time in history, the S&P has dropped for an entire decade! My mother didn't have to work, but my wife does..and this despite the fact that I work longer and harder than my father did, and I worked harder and longer at education as well. And I'm doing better than most!

3) Immigration is a distraction, blaming poor foreigners to divert our attention from the big-time bandits right here at home.
Patriot

Stockton, CA

#103 Oct 17, 2010
She helped write and pass the health bill they crammed down our throats! She is also one of the pro amnesty crowd!!
Greg Elseth

United States

#104 Oct 17, 2010
conservative, has respect for our constitution

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#105 Oct 17, 2010
Northie wrote:
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Agreed, and most of the initiatives do reek of corporate payola. However, you might consider voting for I-1098.
It shifts tax burdens in the other direction, for a change, cutting property taxes and B&O taxes in favor of a strictly limited income tax on the wealthiest 1.2% of households. It's about time, in my view; we're one of only six states without an income tax, and, of those, one of only two that don't rely on oil and mining royalties to fund state government. In other words, an income tax on multi-millionaires is way overdue here. The money I-1098 raises is dedicated to education and health care, both of which need help.
"Northie"
You must live in La La Land. Pass the inititive to tax the "wealthy" is just a foot in the door for the more tax is better crowd. If 1098 is passed in two years our tax and spend legislature will adjust the tax and place it on any and all tax brackets.
You vote for more taxes I will vote for any inititive that lowers or removes a tax.
Peace
Antonio Mcmicheal

Glen Cove, NY

#106 Oct 17, 2010
I believe in the democratic process of implementing government regulations, that assures the safety of Americans and affordable health care for all Americans. The process to an prospering America is not instant, we all have to bear a burden and Patty Murray made it clear to everyone.

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