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William

Birmingham, AL

#102 Oct 23, 2013
xxx wrote:
No, I do not think it is significant that Paul refers to it as “his gospel”. I don’t think it was anymore Paul’s gospel than it was anyone else’s. I think he calls it his gospel because he personally identified with it because it saved him.
Are you bothered that Peter, Phillip, etc. never told those Jews in Acts 2-10 that Christ died for their sins?
xxx

Nashville, TN

#103 Oct 23, 2013
No, because Acts is historical commentary. Just because something is not listed does not automatically mean that it was not done. There were probably a lot of things said in the sermons listed in Acts that did not make it into the book just as John made note that his gospel was not an exhaustive account of the life of Jesus (John 21:25).
William

Birmingham, AL

#104 Oct 23, 2013
Peter went to great lengths to tell those Jews in Acts 2 a number of things. Don't you think that it's a bit odd that he never told them that Christ died for their sins, and was resurrected for their justification? Same thing with Philip in Acts 8.

It's also nowhere to be found in the so-called "great commission" of Mark 16, Matthew 28, and Luke 24.

Go ye therefore and teach all nations, he says, but he completely leaves out this critical information, later given to Paul.
xxx

Nashville, TN

#105 Oct 23, 2013
I believe all are saved by the same gospel, from Adam to those in the end times. The only difference is that Adam didn’t know the details of how God would end up redeeming him, same with Abraham.

Those in the OT were saved believing God WOULD make a way for them even though HOW He would do this may not have been completely revealed, but that did not mean they were any less saved.

We in the NT are saved believing God HAS made a way for us. The only difference is, we now know the details of HOW God HAS made a way already while those in the OT did not.

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#106 Oct 23, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text> Your quote shows your flaw. "Eventually became the Catholic church"...... The original church never became something else (If it did Christ spoke wrongly) called the catholic church mankind changed into the false RCC church as the bible said would happen.
He left men in charge. They named it the Universal Church. History proves this.
William

Talladega, AL

#107 Oct 23, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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He left men in charge. They named it the Universal Church. History proves this.
Catholic history

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#108 Oct 23, 2013
William wrote:
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Catholic history
The History of Western Civilization 101

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#109 Oct 23, 2013
William wrote:
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Catholic history
There is no other Christian history until 1500.

I bet if you want to can go to the Vatican with the right applications and view the most extensive collection of ancient books and manuscripts in the world.

The Church has kept great records over 2 Millennium. The good with the bad.

History and Sola Scriptura proved to me Protestantism is a Heresy and that it is not long for this world, thank goodness.

When it is over, it will have been the longest run heresy in Christian history and has done exponentially more harm to Christianity than any other.

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#110 Oct 23, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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There is no other Christian history until 1500.
I bet if you want to can go to the Vatican with the right applications and view the most extensive collection of ancient books and manuscripts in the world.
The Church has kept great records over 2 Millennium. The good with the bad.
History and Sola Scriptura proved to me Protestantism is a Heresy and that it is not long for this world, thank goodness.
When it is over, it will have been the longest run heresy in Christian history and has done exponentially more harm to Christianity than any other.
I learned some interesting prot stuff today. I've heard of smoking breaks, pee breaks, work breaks, praise bands even Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition but today I learned of "Praise Breaks." These occur during regular prot services, funerals and weddings. Lots of "Praise Breaks" are on Youtube! Cracks me up!
William

Grayson, GA

#111 Oct 23, 2013
Did you guys see the story today about this Catholic bishop in Germany and his $41M tab for the renovation of his residence? He is in Rome having to explain himself to Dad.

Well that wasn't even the best part of the article. It turns out that the German government collects taxes FOR the Catholic church.

Now that is a solid business model. Der Spiegel approves.

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#112 Oct 23, 2013
William wrote:
Did you guys see the story today about this Catholic bishop in Germany and his $41M tab for the renovation of his residence? He is in Rome having to explain himself to Dad.
Well that wasn't even the best part of the article. It turns out that the German government collects taxes FOR the Catholic church.
Now that is a solid business model. Der Spiegel approves.
Numerous European countries collect church tax for mostly prot denominations. It's not just done by Germany or exclusively for the Roman Catholic Church. Now you know the whole truth.
William

Grayson, GA

#113 Oct 23, 2013
Awesome racket these churches have going on there. If the US government can figure out a way to get a cut of this kind of deal, then we could pay for Obamacare and maybe have enough left over to pay for a war or two against whatever Muslim country needs attacking.

Sign me up for another tour of duty. I can still pass that physical.

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#114 Oct 23, 2013
William wrote:
Awesome racket these churches have going on there. If the US government can figure out a way to get a cut of this kind of deal, then we could pay for Obamacare and maybe have enough left over to pay for a war or two against whatever Muslim country needs attacking.
Sign me up for another tour of duty. I can still pass that physical.
All churches here, by being tax exempt, are getting a major subsidy from taxpayers. At the local level, for example, churches pay nothing for police and fire protection etc. What's the difference? At least in some European countries it appears the taxpayer can specify which denomination gets the funds but a few have state sponsored prot churches which get it all.
William

Grayson, GA

#115 Oct 23, 2013
It's like registering for Obamacare! Just sign up and send your money in. Easy payment options are available.

No wonder atheism is wildly popular in Europe with this scam in place.
Annoying Proxy

Manassas, VA

#116 Oct 23, 2013
William wrote:
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Are you bothered that Peter, Phillip, etc. never told those Jews in Acts 2-10 that Christ died for their sins?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.(Kenneth Kitchen)

Acts 8:32 the eunuch questions Philip about what he was reading in Isaiah 53 specifically verse 7. I seriously doubt he read that verse and that verse only in Isaiah. In close proximity are these words (verses 4&5 in our bibles). I believe it is saying Jesus died for our sins.



Isa 53:4 Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted.
Isa 53:5 But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed.
Annoying Proxy

Manassas, VA

#117 Oct 23, 2013
William wrote:
Did you guys see the story today about this Catholic bishop in Germany and his $41M tab for the renovation of his residence? He is in Rome having to explain himself to Dad.
Well that wasn't even the best part of the article. It turns out that the German government collects taxes FOR the Catholic church.
Now that is a solid business model. Der Spiegel approves.
Now what I really came here for, the Catholic bash. The German government collecting for the Catholic churches doe snot surprise me.

http://www.bing.com/images/search...

Papa must have been pretty upset with Bishop "Bling" redirecting the money to his flat that Papa thought should be spent on his Vatican "crib". Mike said this money came from donations or something like that with his vow of poverty Catholic claims. A vow of poverty for a high end Catholic driving a Mercedes instead of a Rolls-Royce so that they won't have to cut back on their caviar. Things can be rough when you have to do without like the low enders know as common men.

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#119 Oct 24, 2013
Annoying Proxy wrote:
<quoted text>Now what I really came here for, the Catholic bash. The German government collecting for the Catholic churches doe snot surprise me.
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
Papa must have been pretty upset with Bishop "Bling" redirecting the money to his flat that Papa thought should be spent on his Vatican "crib". Mike said this money came from donations or something like that with his vow of poverty Catholic claims. A vow of poverty for a high end Catholic driving a Mercedes instead of a Rolls-Royce so that they won't have to cut back on their caviar. Things can be rough when you have to do without like the low enders know as common men.
Being a low end Prot have nothing to do with money. Many of them are millionaires with private planes.

But they are paupers in their worship of God.

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#120 Oct 24, 2013
Annoying Proxy wrote:
<quoted text>Now what I really came here for, the Catholic bash. The German government collecting for the Catholic churches doe snot surprise me.
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
Papa must have been pretty upset with Bishop "Bling" redirecting the money to his flat that Papa thought should be spent on his Vatican "crib". Mike said this money came from donations or something like that with his vow of poverty Catholic claims. A vow of poverty for a high end Catholic driving a Mercedes instead of a Rolls-Royce so that they won't have to cut back on their caviar. Things can be rough when you have to do without like the low enders know as common men.
FYI Roman Catholic Bishops and Priests, unless they are members of a religious order like the Franciscans, do not take vows of poverty. I have told you this before but typically you keep spreading the lie. Do the Sprouls take vows of poverty? Hell no.

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#121 Oct 24, 2013
William wrote:
It's like registering for Obamacare! Just sign up and send your money in. Easy payment options are available.
No wonder atheism is wildly popular in Europe with this scam in place.
In England, property owners in certain towns and villages are finding out their centuries old deeds require them to maintain the local CofE church often involving thousands of pounds in roof/stone repairs etc.
William

Birmingham, AL

#122 Oct 24, 2013
"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.(Kenneth Kitchen)"

"Sure it is.(William)"

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