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#62 May 26, 2014
William wrote:
<quoted text>It just means that he doesn't have it.

Knows how to get it though. Just won't go there.
Is this interpretation of yours on this subject infallible or is this one in error. How do you determine which one you might be in error on

I will assume you are in error on most since you are a low end protester.
bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#63 May 26, 2014
Mike the catholic church has a lot of good traditions such as Christmas and Easter. I celebrate them both every year, but they are only traditions and we should try to make them into more than they really are.

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#64 May 26, 2014
bobby wrote:
Mike the catholic church has a lot of good traditions such as Christmas and Easter. I celebrate them both every year, but they are only traditions and we should try to make them into more than they really are.
God defines what are good traditions.

Christmas and Easter aren't among New Testament traditions.

Christmas and Easter originated in organism and where modified by Catholicism.

Colossians 3:17

www.roysecitycoc.org
bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#65 May 26, 2014
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
God defines what are good traditions.
Christmas and Easter aren't among New Testament traditions.
Christmas and Easter originated in organism and where modified by Catholicism.
Colossians 3:17
www.roysecitycoc.org
No one knows the exact dates that these events occurred on and Christmas has it's roots in saint Nickolaus a mere human.

I have always thought that it is good to have a day set aside to honor the birth and death of Christ, however it is not required by scripture- it is a good tradition and I am not here to fight against it. There is no command to worship this event and it not a sacrilege to not do it in accordance with your catholic tradition.

There are things we do in our church that are good but we can change them without displeasing God.

For instance we have a tradition of having a prayer around the flag pole to honor our servicemen. We do that on Sunday not Monday. We usually have a car show on campus on fathers day, but this year we are doing something different.

Tradition is just that tradition, there is nothing necessarily holy in doing it- except in your case-the whole system would blow up if you ever changed it.
William

United States

#66 May 26, 2014
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
God defines what are good traditions.
Christmas and Easter aren't among New Testament traditions.
Christmas and Easter originated in organism and where modified by Catholicism.
Colossians 3:17
www.roysecitycoc.org
Paganism mixed in with elements of the birth and resurrection.

The Romans morphed both together to appeal to conquered people in their empire.

Christ Mass is the Feast of Saturnalia.

Easter is Eostre.

Google up both.

There is nothing new under the sun.

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#67 May 26, 2014
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
God defines what are good traditions.
Christmas and Easter aren't among New Testament traditions.
Christmas and Easter originated in organism and where modified by Catholicism.
Colossians 3:17
www.roysecitycoc.org
It is better to rejoice that they have become vehicles for celebrating the love of Christ.

You wear a pagan wedding ring, presume

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#68 May 27, 2014
bobby wrote:
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You are dumb as dirt when it comes to understanding the Holy Spirit indwelling....
Now Bobby we all should know one thing and admit it. We have no idea exactly how the Holy Spirit indwells the Christian. We may see the fruit of the Spirit but how it works is a mystery.
bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#69 May 27, 2014
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>Now Bobby we all should know one thing and admit it. We have no idea exactly how the Holy Spirit indwells the Christian. We may see the fruit of the Spirit but how it works is a mystery.
Traditionally the hard line coc has taken the same view on holy spirit indwelling as the catholics. I suspect that you are closer to Mike on this issue than me.
NewComer

Axton, VA

#70 May 27, 2014
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
God defines what are good traditions.
Christmas and Easter aren't among New Testament traditions.
Christmas and Easter originated in organism and where modified by Catholicism.
Colossians 3:17
www.roysecitycoc.org
Do you observe any holidays? Fathers Day? Mothers Day? Memorial Day? Let me take a stab at this and say you do because these are related to the Church so they are fine and dandy. You honor traditions just as much as everyone else, who are you kidding but yourself? I wonder why coc buildings resemble all other denominational buildings. Whence did this come from? Not the Bible.
bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#71 May 27, 2014
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
God defines what are good traditions.
Christmas and Easter aren't among New Testament traditions.
Christmas and Easter originated in organism and where modified by Catholicism.
Colossians 3:17
www.roysecitycoc.org
Heath you have traditions in your church that are not found in scripture. The early church did not have toilets or water fountains but yours does. The early church probably did not have an opening prayer or a closing prayers -songs sitting and others standing- plus you have a sound system. Is there anything wrong with the pattern/tradition you use to do church?, no. Neither is there anything wrong with sitting aside one sunday a year to celebrate the birth of Christ. Likewise there is nothing wrong with celebrating the death burial and resurrection of Christ.

Heath your positions on this is flat out wrong. In fact it is nothing more than pure legalism. If it helps you ego a little bit, I would say that your form of legalism is no where near as offensive as Mike's. I could go to your church, but I would feel a little out of place with some of your traditions-been there done that...

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#72 Jun 16, 2014
bobby wrote:
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Heath you have traditions in your church that are not found in scripture. The early church did not have toilets or water fountains but yours does. The early church probably did not have an opening prayer or a closing prayers -songs sitting and others standing- plus you have a sound system. Is there anything wrong with the pattern/tradition you use to do church?, no. Neither is there anything wrong with sitting aside one sunday a year to celebrate the birth of Christ. Likewise there is nothing wrong with celebrating the death burial and resurrection of Christ.
Heath your positions on this is flat out wrong. In fact it is nothing more than pure legalism. If it helps you ego a little bit, I would say that your form of legalism is no where near as offensive as Mike's. I could go to your church, but I would feel a little out of place with some of your traditions-been there done that...
lol toliets are traditions.....hmmm

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#73 Jun 16, 2014
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>lol toliets are traditions.....hmmm
Isn't that great Theology?

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#74 Jun 16, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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Isn't that great Theology?
Yep bout like beads and hail marys.

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#75 Jun 16, 2014
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>Yep bout like beads and hail marys.
Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.

Direct from the Bible.
Jerry Taylor

Axton, VA

#76 Jun 16, 2014
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#77 Jun 16, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Direct from the Bible.
That does not make Mary the co-redemptrix, mediatrix and advocate as the catholics teach

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#78 Jun 16, 2014
Bobby wrote:
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That does not make Mary the co-redemptrix, mediatrix and advocate as the catholics teach
Says Bobby, an admitted error teacher of the Bible.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#79 Jun 16, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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Says Bobby, an admitted error teacher of the Bible.
Teach that to me from the scripture...

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#80 Jun 16, 2014
Bobby wrote:
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Teach that to me from the scripture...
You are your own teacher. After all the HS has graced you with this knowledge. It took almost 2000 years for the world to wait for you to teach us.

After all, if you dont believe the verses that says Baptism now saves you, faith without works is dead, i will change your name to Peter and I will build my Church upon you and i will be with you until the end of ages, unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you will not have eternal life, your sins will be forgiven in heaven if they are forgiven on earth, why would Jesus' mother mean anything to you/

And to top if off, it is a Catholic book that you teach from. Completely bizarre. You are your own cult.

The good thing is that when we our dead and gone your beliefs will go with you and be forgotten, because they are yours. The Church that teaches me will still be here because it is from Jesus
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#81 Jun 16, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are your own teacher. After all the HS has graced you with this knowledge. It took almost 2000 years for the world to wait for you to teach us.
After all, if you dont believe the verses that says Baptism now saves you, faith without works is dead, i will change your name to Peter and I will build my Church upon you and i will be with you until the end of ages, unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you will not have eternal life, your sins will be forgiven in heaven if they are forgiven on earth, why would Jesus' mother mean anything to you/
And to top if off, it is a Catholic book that you teach from. Completely bizarre. You are your own cult.
The good thing is that when we our dead and gone your beliefs will go with you and be forgotten, because they are yours. The Church that teaches me will still be here because it is from Jesus
I can not change your mind and you can't change my mind. One day we will both know-hope you have done enough good works to stay out of purgatory.

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