Debunking Catholicism

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Tune in your antennae. Your focus is terrible. After Phillip had baptized the Samaritans, why did John and his fellow apostle walk all the way there to lay their hands on them?
I thought you were Catholic. Focus!!!! Did the bishop lay hands on you? Take your time.
Ignorance.
Some of the statements you said here are crazy and off the wall, but to think that Confirmation came from what you said is telling, you are not to bright, on history and facts. You have exposed yourself has a person who claims to be Catholic but no clue on the history of the CC. Where did the ritual of Baptism come from.

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Of course. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit started the Church. The HS sent the Church to the Eunuch. Phillip was a Deacon in the Church. He was in Samara at the time preaching, if I am not mistaken. He had converted a bunch of Jews and Paul and John had to go down there and lay hands on them to complete their conversion. That was the sacrament of confirmation.
The HS then told Philip to get on the Jerusalem to Gaza road.
This is very important in Salvation History.It wasn't who sent him but why was he sent. The only reason he sent Phillip is to show the world the Church taught scripture.
"How can I learn scripture unless somebody teaches me."
Scripture does not teach the Church.
No Sola Scriptura for 1.5 more millennium. Satan created that .
What was wrong that the HS had to give the instruction if the church you claim had already been established? Doesnt the HS give the pope the direction seems to have overlooked him in this and other instances.
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What was wrong that the HS had to give the instruction if the church you claim had already been established? Doesnt the HS give the pope the direction seems to have overlooked him in this and other instances.
The Church always listens to the HS in the area of faith and morals. The HS might have told Pope Francis to wear black shoes instead of red, but I think he just likes black shoes.

Who do you listen to?

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
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<quoted text> HA HA HA. Confirmation is the same ritual that the jews is do. It is the day you are responsible for your actions. The age of 13 you become a man. And to think you have the balls to say I am foolish. HA HA HA. I am also starting to think that your not Catholic also like I do with your partner.
PS. Jews today call it Bar Mitzvah, Christians call it Confirmation. CC leader wear a cape on their heads. Pooe , Cardianal, Arch Bishops, Bishop. Were did this come from. Still waiting for your answer on were did Baptism comes from. I'll give you enough time so that maybe you might have the balls to look it up and learn something. Your statemnets need "Your Antennas" adjusted. What you think are facts and what is really facts, are very difference. I personally think you know that your statements are way off base. You can't to that much in denial.
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<quoted text> PS. Jews today call it Bar Mitzvah, Christians call it Confirmation. CC leader wear a cape on their heads. Pooe , Cardianal, Arch Bishops, Bishop. Were did this come from. Still waiting for your answer on were did Baptism comes from. I'll give you enough time so that maybe you might have the balls to look it up and learn something. Your statemnets need "Your Antennas" adjusted. What you think are facts and what is really facts, are very difference. I personally think you know that your statements are way off base. You can't to that much in denial.
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Is he telling you your in denial? Again the rituals of Baptism on the forgiven of sin, where did it comes from. I think you had enough time to go and study it. Here;s the answer. It came from the Jews. It came from the pools of water that was use for a jew to use. They would walk in to cleans themselves and their sins before the sabbath day to repent. John the Baptise did this also, but by the waters of Jordan telling the people to repent, for the appointed time is near. Also, according to the prophecy, Elijah was to return "to pave the way for the anointed one" Question, who was Elijah during Jesus time. Need help, read Matthews Sermon on the Mount. You might be shock on this.

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<quoted text> Is he telling you your in denial? Again the rituals of Baptism on the forgiven of sin, where did it comes from. I think you had enough time to go and study it. Here;s the answer. It came from the Jews. It came from the pools of water that was use for a jew to use. They would walk in to cleans themselves and their sins before the sabbath day to repent. John the Baptise did this also, but by the waters of Jordan telling the people to repent, for the appointed time is near. Also, according to the prophecy, Elijah was to return "to pave the way for the anointed one" Question, who was Elijah during Jesus time. Need help, read Matthews Sermon on the Mount. You might be shock on this.
Beam him up Scotty!

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The Church always listens to the HS in the area of faith and morals. The HS might have told Pope Francis to wear black shoes instead of red, but I think he just likes black shoes.
Who do you listen to?
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
How come the church didnt know about this conversion. Because they did not send a teacher as you claim..... The HS sent the teacher. Not the church. How bout Paul why didnt the church know of his conversion? How bout Cornelius? The church knew of none of these as you claim it should have. Answer those please if you dare do so without lying.
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<quoted text>How come the church didnt know about this conversion. Because they did not send a teacher as you claim..... The HS sent the teacher. Not the church. How bout Paul why didnt the church know of his conversion? How bout Cornelius? The church knew of none of these as you claim it should have. Answer those please if you dare do so without lying.
I have no clue what you are talking about. The HS is not separate from the Church

The HS led Phillip to the Eunuch.

Phillip converted him by explaining the scripture. There was no Sola Scriptura here or anywhere in the Bible. He then baptized him.

Jesus himself converted Paul and sent somebody to baptize him. Jesus started the Church so you could say the Church converted Paul.

Who taught you scripture?

Who converted you? Your parents kept you pagan for a long time.
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Beam him up Scotty!
To be honest with you, I am not a Star Trek fan. Here a question, why are the Avenger, Batman and Superman movies always so popular.

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I have no clue what you are talking about. The HS is not separate from the Church
The HS led Phillip to the Eunuch.
Phillip converted him by explaining the scripture. There was no Sola Scriptura here or anywhere in the Bible. He then baptized him.
Jesus himself converted Paul and sent somebody to baptize him. Jesus started the Church so you could say the Church converted Paul.
Who taught you scripture?
Who converted you? Your parents kept you pagan for a long time.
Of Course you have no idea for that is not what the RCC teaches you. Here are the facts of these conversions. The HS was the person directing the teachers to go teach not the Church as you claim. Show me where the church knew about Cornelius and his household being taught? They did not for Peter had to come back and explain it to the church. How about Paul the church was afraid of him after his conversion. How could that be if the church had sent someone to convert and teach Paul. The fact is the church at this time was not the RCC as you say and never functioned as the RCC as you claim. Dont let me confuse you with the facts.

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I have no clue what you are talking about. The HS is not separate from the Church
The HS led Phillip to the Eunuch.
Phillip converted him by explaining the scripture. There was no Sola Scriptura here or anywhere in the Bible. He then baptized him.
Jesus himself converted Paul and sent somebody to baptize him. Jesus started the Church so you could say the Church converted Paul.
Who taught you scripture?
Who converted you? Your parents kept you pagan for a long time.
NO way Jesus converted Paul. That would prove Christ and the bible to be a liar. You do know that the ministry of Christ was left to those on earth after his death or do you not understand the text of Hebrews that is clear on this. You should review the testator and death of one and what is sealed at that time. If you dont have time to review I would not trust the pope on this one.:)

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Of Course you have no idea for that is not what the RCC teaches you. Here are the facts of these conversions. The HS was the person directing the teachers to go teach not the Church as you claim. Show me where the church knew about Cornelius and his household being taught? They did not for Peter had to come back and explain it to the church. How about Paul the church was afraid of him after his conversion. How could that be if the church had sent someone to convert and teach Paul. The fact is the church at this time was not the RCC as you say and never functioned as the RCC as you claim. Dont let me confuse you with the facts.
Of course, it was the Church of Christ denomination back then! Cracks me up!
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killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> To be honest with you, I am not a Star Trek fan. Here a question, why are the Avenger, Batman and Superman movies always so popular.
It is because a Messiah like addiction that we human have to think that we can't fix mankind, it take a "super"being to fix the world. This is why these movies are popular.

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Of course, it was the Church of Christ denomination back then! Cracks me up!
What cracks you up is you can not answer the question.

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<quoted text>What cracks you up is you can not answer the question.
The Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church could provide you an answer with original documentation and it wouldn't be good enough for you. We know all you want to do is ask questions, never accept the answers then rate them as spam!
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<quoted text>NO way Jesus converted Paul. That would prove Christ and the bible to be a liar. You do know that the ministry of Christ was left to those on earth after his death or do you not understand the text of Hebrews that is clear on this. You should review the testator and death of one and what is sealed at that time. If you dont have time to review I would not trust the pope on this one.:)
He said,“Who are you, sir?” The reply came,“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.e
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Now get up and go into the city and you will be told what you must do.”

I really don't believe you even know what you are talking about.

Once again, Jesus started what? A Bible? nope. Protesters? nope.

A Church? Yes. What is the pillar of Truth? Paul said the Church was.

What was the only Church for 1500 years. Catholic.

High End Prots agree with this. Its just since 1800 and you low prots invented.

You were a pagan for a long time even though you were born to Prot parents.

Who converted you?

Who taught you scripture?
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JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>What cracks you up is you can not answer the question.
Do you think a person who never laid eyes on a Bible much less read and interpreted it can be saved?
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He said,“Who are you, sir?” The reply came,“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.e
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Now get up and go into the city and you will be told what you must do.”
I really don't believe you even know what you are talking about.
Once again, Jesus started what? A Bible? nope. Protesters? nope.
A Church? Yes. What is the pillar of Truth? Paul said the Church was.
What was the only Church for 1500 years. Catholic.
High End Prots agree with this. Its just since 1800 and you low prots invented.
You were a pagan for a long time even though you were born to Prot parents.
Who converted you?
Who taught you scripture?
Just to let you know again, the liar appears to be Jesus and says it's OK to teach gentles difference and not my words or the Father. Conflict of interest on what Paul said and what the Apostles said. I think I'll stick with the Apostles instead of Paul.
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<quoted text> Just to let you know again, the liar appears to be Jesus and says it's OK to teach gentles difference and not my words or the Father. Conflict of interest on what Paul said and what the Apostles said. I think I'll stick with the Apostles instead of Paul.
You will stick with Sola Scriptura which means what you stick with means nothing.

Only to you.

Can you imagine Jesus telling the Apostles they can believe anything they want to?

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