Debunking Catholicism
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Annoying Proxy

Chicago, IL

#212 Nov 13, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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More manure for the compost pile. Thanks!
You are the hardest working Catholic scholar and theologian I have ever seen bar none. What would the Catechism Of The Catholic Church be without your hard work?
Anonymous Proxy

San Jose, CA

#213 Dec 30, 2013
In the mail today I was asked to give to a charity called Boys Town. I saw it was a Catholic charity and thought before I gave that I should check it out. I goggled for scandals and there are plenty of them. Sad, I am sorry but have to pass on this one for a couple of reasons. First I want the money to go to the kids. I know the church has spent billions of dollars on these scandals. I don't want any of my money to go to pay their bills and I cannot be assured of that. Another reason is the Catholic Church has abundant wealth and can surely afford to feed these kids better than I. After all that is what they are supposed to be doing anyway. If the church is short of cash which they are not then I suggest the Pope hock some of the gold blink he always wears and feed/house the kids.

Akron, OH

#214 Jan 3, 2014
MCOC wrote:
When Catholics say that the Catholic Church gave us the Bible, they are in effect saying that this Church (along with its “Tradition”) is the final authority, and that we must submit to them. They are implying that the Bible gets its authority from that Church and only they have the authority to properly interpret it. But this is certainly not true. The universal church recognized the inspired writings. However, the Scriptures are not “church-breathed,” but God-breathed (2 Tim. 3:16-17)
Simply recognizing something (the canon) is not the same thing as being responsible for its existence. The Bible no more owes its existence to the Catholic Church than gravity owes its existence to Sir Isaac Newton.
The idea of the Catholic Church giving the Bible to the world is yet another boastful (but empty) claim coming from the Catholic side. One has to wonder… how many of the Catholic Church’s claims need to be exposed as false, before the “lay Catholic” in the pew will see the light? How many exaggerated claims from his leaders must he endure before he breaks free of the Catholic Church’s shackles? Hopefully, very few.
It's difficult to expose 1600 years of revisionist history into a post or page with 3000 characters. Much of what you've posted is right, and I love the gravity premise;-)

The foundation of the teachings of Jesus Christ being the focal point of what the Scriptures say according to the Author is what we need to note. And in line with this is that the accounts made by His original disciples should hold the primary accounts to which the others are held to. One example is Luke has Jesus saying we cannot be His disciples unless we hate relatives and such, but the Matthew account is that we cannot love others - even family members - more than Him if we are His disciples. Do we approach the word of God with focus on our love for Him or our hatred of others? This is but one example that shows the need to learn of Him from the original disciples He said would be enabled by the Holy Spirit to have total recall of all that He first taught them.

Have you read "Jesus' Words Only"? There are some ancient resources that say the first century Church only accepted books as Scripture that were written by the twelve - and they rejected Paul's writings as Scripture or authoritative.

We may be better off to quote Jesus when He taught about the need to believe what God has said and repent of man made doctrine.

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