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Dave P

Cleveland, GA

#1 Jan 28, 2014
I am finished posting on the Martinsville forum, any other forums, on any discussions. It has been enjoyable talking with you fellows. Dave P signing off.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#2 Jan 28, 2014
Your viewpoints will be missed. I've enjoyed our discussions...
Mike Peterson

Hattiesburg, MS

#3 Jan 29, 2014
Join an RCIA class. Learn what the Church really teaches and the fullness of the truth. There is no pressure to join.
Mike Peterson

Hattiesburg, MS

#4 Jan 29, 2014
One other thing. You might want to tell the people who show up at your Church, that what you preach about is just your personal interpretation of the truth and since you are infallible you are not doubt teaching them errors. You might want to tell them that their opinion is no better or worse than yours.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#5 Jan 29, 2014
On the run......
TheWiseMan

San Antonio, TX

#6 Jan 29, 2014
HEATH - 72 wrote:
On the run......
<> SHAWN HEATH PADEN CAUGHT in A LIE <>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/royse-city-tx...
William

Birmingham, AL

#7 Jan 30, 2014
Mike Peterson wrote:
Join an RCIA class. Learn what the Church really teaches and the fullness of the truth. There is no pressure to join.
Yeah the pressure comes after you join and start writing checks. Watch what happens when you stop doing both.

Since: Sep 13

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#8 Jan 30, 2014
William wrote:
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Yeah the pressure comes after you join and start writing checks. Watch what happens when you stop doing both.
You have no clue what you are talking about.

William

Anniston, AL

#9 Jan 30, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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You have no clue what you are talking about.
Sure I do. I live smack dab in the middle of the Bible Belt and have seen first-hand how religions like yours, Southern Baptists, Methodists, and the Church of Christ use guilt, fear, and intimidation to keep their flocks in line and the cash flowing.

You know how hard they want people. You shill for the RCC right here on this board and you are doing it for free. They own you like they own the building you worship in. Sane for all the other demominations. They operate on a cash basis, and you know it.
Jerry Taylor

Martinsville, VA

#10 Jan 31, 2014
yep. sad but true William. Take that cash flow away and it all would come tumbling own. I et the RCC is worth billions.
William

Anniston, AL

#11 Jan 31, 2014
Jerry Taylor wrote:
yep. sad but true William. Take that cash flow away and it all would come tumbling own. I bet the RCC is worth billions.
Spend ANY amount of time in a church outside of one trip as a visitor and immediately you are pressured into joining. Depending on how aggressive the pastor, preacher, or priest and his immediate staff are you will be exposed to The Business and shown very quickly that money is the real God there.

My favorite is always the opportunity to have you or your family's name on buildings, chapels, and stained glass windows for large sums of money. Less affluent people can still feel important by donating for pews and seat cushions. Or choir robes.

Get your name on the building and all the goodies inside. Now tell me, who is being glorified here.
Mike should I go into St. Paul' CC in downtown Birmingham this afternoon when I am nearby and take a few pictures of the stained glass with family names on them? Then I can head over to Homewood and photograph the Methodist church and its new building additions with a family name on them.

There are plenty of others.
William

Birmingham, AL

#12 Jan 31, 2014
And also check out the handy internet donation site:

https://parishpay.com/helpyourparish.asp

Fork over the cash from the comfort of your own home. No need for some pushy Sunday mafia standing over you. Do I need to find some for the low end Prots? They probably just operate off of PayPal.

Since: Sep 13

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#13 Jan 31, 2014
William wrote:
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Spend ANY amount of time in a church outside of one trip as a visitor and immediately you are pressured into joining. Depending on how aggressive the pastor, preacher, or priest and his immediate staff are you will be exposed to The Business and shown very quickly that money is the real God there.
My favorite is always the opportunity to have you or your family's name on buildings, chapels, and stained glass windows for large sums of money. Less affluent people can still feel important by donating for pews and seat cushions. Or choir robes.
Get your name on the building and all the goodies inside. Now tell me, who is being glorified here.
Mike should I go into St. Paul' CC in downtown Birmingham this afternoon when I am nearby and take a few pictures of the stained glass with family names on them? Then I can head over to Homewood and photograph the Methodist church and its new building additions with a family name on them.
There are plenty of others.
Name one Catholic Church that pressured you or anybody you know to join. It takes somebody a year or longer to become of member of the Church. Do you call that pressure. We lose many converts because you protestants require nothing because you just want a butt in the pew.

I have attended Mass in Homewood, Hoover and Trussville. Why does that bother you so much. No doubt those same rich people fed the hungry and clothed the naked.

Do you have a problem with rich people? You probably wouldn't have a job except for rich people. I know I have one because of some.

A CC truly is a house of the Lord.

'One of the biggest stumbling blocks for many fundamentalists is the beautiful but opulent churches that are so commonly associated with the Catholic faith. The common refrain goes along of the lines of “look at all that money they wasted on building a church when they could have put it to use helping the poor.”

“Mary then took a pound of very costly perfume of pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped His feet with her hair; and the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. But Judas Iscariot, one of His disciples, who was intending to betray Him, said,“Why was this perfume not sold for three hundred denarii and given to poor people?“Now he said this, not because he was concerned about the poor, but because he was a thief, and as he had the money box, he used to pilfer what was put into it. Therefore Jesus said,“Let her alone, so that she may keep it for the day of My burial. For you always have the poor with you, but you do not always have Me.”(John 12:3-8 NASB)

Those who would criticize the Catholic church for its supposed vast riches and it’s use of large sums to built huge, ornate churches sound very much like the Apostle Judas, who criticized Jesus for allowing himself to be “pampered” with scented oil. Specifically, Judas lamented the fact that the oil could have been sold and given to the poor. That argument sounds oddly familiar, doesn’t it?"

http://catholicchristianity.wordpress.com/201...

Since: Sep 13

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#14 Jan 31, 2014
William wrote:
And also check out the handy internet donation site:
https://parishpay.com/helpyourparish.asp
Fork over the cash from the comfort of your own home. No need for some pushy Sunday mafia standing over you. Do I need to find some for the low end Prots? They probably just operate off of PayPal.
I wish my Parish had that. The only check I write is one to the Church each month.

The Church is growing so fast in my area, a new Parish started last week and the Church will be built 2 miles from me. I will definitely ask for something like that.

Since: Sep 13

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#15 Feb 1, 2014
When Jesus returned to Jerusalem with His Apostles, he witnesses scores of of rich people flaunting their blessings and making a show of giving huge gifts to the temple. He also saw a poor widow place two small copper coins, all that she had to offer, into the temple treasury. He made a point to make the apostles aware of this and said that she had put more into the treasury than all of the rich people, because she gave everything she had:

“And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury. And He saw a poor widow putting in two small copper coins. And He said,“Truly I say to you, this poor widow put in more than all of them; for they all out of their surplus put into the offering; but she out of her poverty put in all that she had to live on.”(Luke 21:1-4 NASB)

The temple treasury existed for the upkeep of the temple itself; it wasn’t a poor box or place for almsgiving. It existed solely for the purpose of maintaing this opulent house of worship. And yet this Jesus, whom some would have us believe would hate the grand basilicas of the Catholic Church, commended the poor widow for giving all she had to this purpose. This flies in the face of the notion that big, beautiful churches are evil or are somehow abhorrent to God.
William

Alexander City, AL

#16 Feb 1, 2014
And what became of that man-made temple.
William

Alexander City, AL

#17 Feb 1, 2014
Warmed-over Judaism.

That's all your religion really is. It is staring you right in the face yet you continually refuse to see it. Same thing for the protestant religions, who just haven't been at it as long.

Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, and Church of Christ buildings all over the south that practice warmed-over Judaism in buildings that look like bad versions of pagan Greek temples.

Money pits.

Since: Sep 13

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#18 Feb 2, 2014
William wrote:
Warmed-over Judaism.
That's all your religion really is. It is staring you right in the face yet you continually refuse to see it. Same thing for the protestant religions, who just haven't been at it as long.
Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, and Church of Christ buildings all over the south that practice warmed-over Judaism in buildings that look like bad versions of pagan Greek temples.
Money pits.
You are a perfect example of the bottom rung of low end Protestantism. The Bible and Me. The arrogance and pride of 1 man 2.000 years later thinking that from reading a book that he alone has the fullness of the Truth and the Holy Spirit is giving him this.

You are just believing what you want to to believe. For some psychological reason, you think you alone are stronger than the Body of Christ.

You are decapitating Jesus from his body. The Bible clearly states the Church is the Body of Christ.

But it is the Bible and You . Jesus and you.

Asinine.
William

Albertville, AL

#19 Feb 2, 2014
Better get that Catholic book out and study, Mike. You are one day closer to that final exam today.

You ready?

Since: Sep 13

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#20 Feb 3, 2014
William wrote:
Better get that Catholic book out and study, Mike. You are one day closer to that final exam today.
You ready?
I am working out my salvation. I have been saved, I am working on salvation, and I hope to be saved. But there will be no exam. Jesus explicitly tells us what we have to do.

Here is the final test.

Matthew 25:31-46.

The Judgment of the Nations.*
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f “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne,
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g and all the nations* will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
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He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
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Then the king will say to those on his right,‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
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h For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,
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naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’
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Then the righteous* will answer him and say,‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
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When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?
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When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’
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i And the king will say to them in reply,‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’
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* j Then he will say to those on his left,‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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k For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
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a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’
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* Then they will answer and say,‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’
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He will answer them,‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’
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l And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

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