Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#121 Apr 30, 2013
Dave P wrote:
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Was your other name 'Baptism is symbolism'? I recall seeing that one in older threads. I did register one name with topix, but its an aggravation really. As for security, I'm not sure any of us have that anymore. We are all probably right wing extremists, religious fanatics and domestic terrorists. I'd say our names are already on some govt. list somewhere. No matter.
I would like certain others to answer their charges. Far as I am concerned, you never turned away from Jesus, but left the coc-and those two are not necessarily mutually exclusive. From what I read, I can't blame you. We believe differently-but who doesn't?
Yes, you are correct on all points.

It is amazing that righteous living and being taught to treat others like we would like to be treated is considered by the extremest in the world as a threat. But, when i look at these threads I wonder myself. frankly, I have reservations trusting people-that ought not be so in the christian community.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#122 Apr 30, 2013
New Guy wrote:
On a side note, this is exactly why I have always urged caution using "early church fathers" to justify our modern positions. The non instrumentals quote these very men to attempt to prove that using instruments in worship is sin. Now then, to convince a Catholic that he is in error, you have to convince him that these early church fathers-the ones you quote to prove your non instrumental position-are in fact wrong and in error themselves.
All early Church Fathers were Catholic. Why wouldn't we quote them. There was only one Church for 1500 years. A Prot quoting Church Fathers support their views is like them quoting Cardinal Dolan in NY.

The earliest a Prot can quote from , is Father Luther, but very few quote him anymore, because Protesters continue to protest against each other.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#123 Apr 30, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
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Please show the text and the explination of Peter being picked by Christ. Also show the response of the others and how they follow the RCC examples of how to elevate a pope.
I am going to give you a geography lesson at the same time.

Jesus liked show and tell and parables to teach. He took his 12 and said lets go to Caesarea Philippi. It was way out of the way but all the Jews knew about this place. It was a huge rock with a city built on top of it.

In front of it was a pagan Roman Temple. In back of the temple was a cave and in that cave was hole that was so deep, nobody had found the bottom. It was called the Gates of Hades. Men were thrown down this hole as sacrifices to the pagan Gods.

It was this setting that Jesus took Simon and said Simon, you art Peter, a name that nobody in recorded history had every had, and upon this rock, Peter, I will build my Church and the Gates of Hades will never prevail. His Church would never be thrown down that hole. He then gave him the Keys to the Kingdom.

Jesus is awesome to teach like that so for 1500 years every Christian who ever lived believed that. Clear as a bell.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#124 Apr 30, 2013
"upon this rock, Peter, I will build my Church and the Gates of Hades will never prevail"

What is the rock? It is the firm foundation of Peters faith that Jesus is the Messiah. Jesus did not say that "Peter" will build my church. The church Jesus speaks of is not built with stone or wood, it is founded on a strong faith in each and every believer.

Peter, as an apostle, had no successor in his office nor was he bishop of Rome nor has the pope of Rome, either his office, or his doctrine. The office of pope is found no where in scripture.

http://www.gotquestions.org/pope-papacy.html

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#125 Apr 30, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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You tossed your salvation away too.
No he didnt. And that's not your call.
Dave P

Morehead, KY

#126 Apr 30, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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I am going to give you a geography lesson at the same time.
Jesus is awesome to teach like that so for 1500 years every Christian who ever lived believed that. Clear as a bell.
Perhaps history lessons are in order for you Mike.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#127 May 18, 2013
Hhhhhmmmmmm

www.roysecitycoc.org

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#128 May 18, 2013
You guys ready for my arrival in June?
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#129 May 18, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
You guys ready for my arrival in June?
Only if you name 1 COC member from 100 AD to 1800 AD. Just one that I can research.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#130 May 19, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
You guys ready for my arrival in June?
We didnt know you are pregnant.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#131 May 19, 2013
Acts 3:22-26.



"For Moses truly said to the fathers,'The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people." Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also foretold these days. You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with your fathers, saying to Abraham, "And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed." To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities."

"And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people."

How much hearing is enough?
"Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you."

This is why John left us II John 9-11

You sure won't hear this from any Evalgelical that I've ever heard - but it's Scripture.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#132 May 19, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
Acts 3:22-26.
"For Moses truly said to the fathers,'The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people." Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also foretold these days. You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with your fathers, saying to Abraham, "And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed." To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities."
"And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people."
How much hearing is enough?
"Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you."
This is why John left us II John 9-11
You sure won't hear this from any Evalgelical that I've ever heard - but it's Scripture.
I case you have forgotten you, Jesus came to fulfill the law and to forgive sin-not to continue to push it forward another few years. Jesus life is the embodiment of the grace of God-that is what he died for.

If man could have overcome his sin and completely obeyed the law of Moses then there was no need for Jesus to offer his life for sinners!

The doctrine of Christ is summed up in the cross-the doctrine of love. He loved us enough to die for us while we were yet sinners.

We can strive to keep the 613 commands/laws of God but we will fail- perfection cannot be earned except through the blood of the one man Jesus the Christ. The doctrine of Christ is clearly about who he is and why he came to redeem us.

If Yeshua is the Living Torah, then the Law DID die. If the Law died, then it is no longer in effect. If you are a Law ‘keeper’, are you going to come back and say that the Law rose from the dead? Are you going to pick the Law apart like you do to ‘keep’ it? Can you pick Yeshua apart and say that only ‘parts’ of the Word were put to death? Was the Law resurrected? Borrowed
what

Chicago, IL

#133 May 19, 2013
Bobby wrote:
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I case you have forgotten you, Jesus came to fulfill the law and to forgive sin-not to continue to push it forward another few years. Jesus life is the embodiment of the grace of God-that is what he died for.
If man could have overcome his sin and completely obeyed the law of Moses then there was no need for Jesus to offer his life for sinners!
The doctrine of Christ is summed up in the cross-the doctrine of love. He loved us enough to die for us while we were yet sinners.
We can strive to keep the 613 commands/laws of God but we will fail- perfection cannot be earned except through the blood of the one man Jesus the Christ. The doctrine of Christ is clearly about who he is and why he came to redeem us.
If Yeshua is the Living Torah, then the Law DID die. If the Law died, then it is no longer in effect. If you are a Law ‘keeper’, are you going to come back and say that the Law rose from the dead? Are you going to pick the Law apart like you do to ‘keep’ it? Can you pick Yeshua apart and say that only ‘parts’ of the Word were put to death? Was the Law resurrected? Borrowed
Matthew, Chapter 10, 33: But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Is Jesus your redeemer?

Yes or No?

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#134 May 19, 2013
what wrote:
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Matthew, Chapter 10, 33: But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Is Jesus your redeemer?
Yes or No?
Nobody has denied Jesus as their redeemer on this thread.

What are you trying to say?
what

Chicago, IL

#135 May 19, 2013
Olethros wrote:
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Nobody has denied Jesus as their redeemer on this thread.
What are you trying to say?
1 Peter, Chapter 3, 15: But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

Matthew, Chapter 10, 33: But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Is Jesus your redeemer?

Yes or No?
what

Chicago, IL

#136 May 19, 2013
All these people I asked to confess Jesus and did not...you can see as according to the written word of God.

They denied Jesus.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#137 May 19, 2013
Nobody here has denied Jesus. If any person has then it is up to you to show us who.
what

Chicago, IL

#138 May 19, 2013
Olethros wrote:
Nobody here has denied Jesus. If any person has then it is up to you to show us who.
Is Jesus your redeemer?

Yes or No?
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#139 May 19, 2013
Olethros wrote:
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Nobody has denied Jesus as their redeemer on this thread.
What are you trying to say?
This is that same troll only with a different name and location.
what

Chicago, IL

#140 May 19, 2013
Bobby wrote:
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This is that same troll only with a different name and location.
Are you aware that you have denied acknowledging that Jesus is your redeemer?

Yes or no?

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