Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#62 May 21, 2013
Bobby wrote:
Mike, I think in some ways the catholic doctrine has morphed into something other than the intended concept God first designed. I also believe it is why many protestants have left the cc. If it is like you say that the cc is the early church and yet they have created horrible acts on humanity and have leaders who sin against God with alter boys-where do they get the doctrine to support that?
You need to know that those things do not get swept under the rug with christians in other denominations. If the pope and his hierarchy would start by openly condemning those sort of things I might give them a passing grade. We are not blind!
You can easily determine whether the CC has morphed at all. It is a provable statement. All you have to do is read and prove it to.

He are telling untruths and spreading misinformation by saying the the Popes have not commented or done anything about it pedophilia. All you have to do is read before you make comments that make you look like you have no knowledge on the subject.

When are you leaving the Baptist Church which full of pedophiles. This is from a Baptist newspaper. I wouldn't let my grand kids get close to a Baptist minister. Do you let yours? According to you all are guilty if one is.

Form the Associated Baptist Press, January 13, 2013

Clergy sex abuse and ‘the silence of the many’

The unmistakable message of silence and do-nothingness is that, among Baptists, clergy sex abuse is typically treated as “no big deal.”

n countless stories of Baptist clergy sex abuse, we have seen the sad truth of King’s words made manifest. Even with childhood histories of horrific abuse – of having been molested, raped and sodomized by Baptist preachers – many have said that the worst of their experience came when they tried to tell about the abuse within the faith community.

That was when they faced “the silence of the many.”

That was when the relational fabric of community, and often even of family, was torn asunder.

That was when faith itself was deemed a fraud.

Church after church has stood, not in solidarity with those who have been abused by clergy, but rather, with the accused minister-molesters. Often, the churches have stood with the ministers even when they admit their soul-murdering deeds, and sometimes even when they have been criminally convicted.

Church leaders have quietly allowed accused preacher-predators – even those with multiple accusations -- to hop to new churches – and to do so repeatedly.

Denominational leaders have sat back and claimed powerlessness. Simultaneously, they have stayed silent about Baptist pastors, including some high-profile pastors, who kept quiet about abuse allegations involving ministerial staff.

The unmistakable message of so much silence and do-nothingness is that, among Baptists, clergy sex abuse is typically treated as “no big deal.”

No one in Baptistland wants to hear the voices of those who were sexually abused by Baptist clergy. Indeed, in the Southern Baptist Convention, there does not even exist a basic structure to support the compassionate hearing of such wounded people. Instead, they are told that they must take their allegations to the church of the accused minister. This is like telling bloody sheep that, if they want help, they must go to the den of the wolf who savaged them. It is a system that does not work.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#63 May 21, 2013
Dave P wrote:
<quoted text>
Mike, God added to THE church daily those who were being saved. Ever since the church was born there have been imperfect people in it. The church IS the people btw, the church is a living organism, the Body of Christ. Being a Christian and being a Catholic are not necessarily the same thing. Jesus's church and the catholic church are not the same thing. Did Jesus fail? No. Were there people being saved through all the years the RCC dominated the scene? Yes. I imagine some of them were catholic, and I imagine some were what you would call heretics.
Our faith is to be in Jesus Christ, not a church organization or anything else. We aren't to worship the church-we are the church. All of the saved, NO MATTER WHAT ORGANIZATION THEY BELONG TO, are part of His church. Mike, ALL of our organizations fall short of perfection. His does not-and we must strive to be part of His. We do not believe, as you do, that RCC is His church.
Sola scriptura? So far, only that John Huss was burned at the stake for believing scripture alone is sufficient, and others declared heretics.
If the Church are people, how can they be the pillar and foundation of truth? Didn't Jesus say that the Church is. Which people in the 'church' are the pillar of Truth? You, Barnsweb, Bobby, Me, Osteen?

Jesus and the Apostle set up a hierarchy and a succession for the hierarchy.

The Church appointed leaders.

How does a church made of people get leaders?

Do you go to a church or a the community of all believers in the world?
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#64 May 21, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
You can easily determine whether the CC has morphed at all. It is a provable statement. All you have to do is read and prove it to.
He are telling untruths and spreading misinformation by saying the the Popes have not commented or done anything about it pedophilia. All you have to do is read before you make comments that make you look like you have no knowledge on the subject.
When are you leaving the Baptist Church which full of pedophiles. This is from a Baptist newspaper. I wouldn't let my grand kids get close to a Baptist minister. Do you let yours? According to you all are guilty if one is.
Form the Associated Baptist Press, January 13, 2013
Clergy sex abuse and ‘the silence of the many’
The unmistakable message of silence and do-nothingness is that, among Baptists, clergy sex abuse is typically treated as “no big deal.”
n countless stories of Baptist clergy sex abuse, we have seen the sad truth of King’s words made manifest. Even with childhood histories of horrific abuse – of having been molested, raped and sodomized by Baptist preachers – many have said that the worst of their experience came when they tried to tell about the abuse within the faith community.
That was when they faced “the silence of the many.”
That was when the relational fabric of community, and often even of family, was torn asunder.
That was when faith itself was deemed a fraud.
Church after church has stood, not in solidarity with those who have been abused by clergy, but rather, with the accused minister-molesters. Often, the churches have stood with the ministers even when they admit their soul-murdering deeds, and sometimes even when they have been criminally convicted.
Church leaders have quietly allowed accused preacher-predators – even those with multiple accusations -- to hop to new churches – and to do so repeatedly.
Denominational leaders have sat back and claimed powerlessness. Simultaneously, they have stayed silent about Baptist pastors, including some high-profile pastors, who kept quiet about abuse allegations involving ministerial staff.
The unmistakable message of so much silence and do-nothingness is that, among Baptists, clergy sex abuse is typically treated as “no big deal.”
No one in Baptistland wants to hear the voices of those who were sexually abused by Baptist clergy. Indeed, in the Southern Baptist Convention, there does not even exist a basic structure to support the compassionate hearing of such wounded people. Instead, they are told that they must take their allegations to the church of the accused minister. This is like telling bloody sheep that, if they want help, they must go to the den of the wolf who savaged them. It is a system that does not work.
So as long as others denominations do it then that makes it ok for cc priest to get a free pass. Catholic Priest will not stop what they are doing until someone in authority sets their foot down and says NO MORE!
William

Warrior, AL

#65 May 21, 2013
They did not set up any hierarchy, or succession to a hierarchy. Believing that they did is no more sound than believing that the church spoken of in Acts 2 is a Catholic church.

It's most definitely a church alright, but that church is comprised entirely of believing Jews. There isn't a gentile anywhere in Acts 2, and Peter isn't telling them about any "body of Christ" comprising neither Jew nor gentile.

The Catholic church is a man-made creation, Mike.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#66 May 21, 2013
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>
So as long as others denominations do it then that makes it ok for cc priest to get a free pass. Catholic Priest will not stop what they are doing until someone in authority sets their foot down and says NO MORE!
Bobby did you read the article??????

Nothing makes it right. Just get off your high horse and stop pretending your religion doesntt have a problem, that it is just a Catholic issue.

What is the name of your Church? Maybe I can find some there.

The only reason I gave you that is you continue to bring it up child abuse and insinuate that only Priests do it. The Catholic Church put it foot down 11 years ago. They continue to put their foot down. I know I have been a part of that being on the parish council.

This article says Baptists still hide it. I can send you stuff just on Texas Baptist if you want.

Pedophilia exists everywhere. Little kids Daddies in private families are the worst.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#67 May 21, 2013
William wrote:
They did not set up any hierarchy, or succession to a hierarchy. Believing that they did is no more sound than believing that the church spoken of in Acts 2 is a Catholic church.
It's most definitely a church alright, but that church is comprised entirely of believing Jews. There isn't a gentile anywhere in Acts 2, and Peter isn't telling them about any "body of Christ" comprising neither Jew nor gentile.
The Catholic church is a man-made creation, Mike.
Name the man who created it and what year. Give me the facts. Jesus started the Catholic Church.

You give me any denomination and I can tell you what man started it
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#68 May 21, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Name the man who created it and what year. Give me the facts. Jesus started the Catholic Church.
You give me any denomination and I can tell you what man started it
Roman Ceasers, to maintain control through their Church when their empire collapsed.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#69 May 21, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Bobby did you read the article??????
Nothing makes it right. Just get off your high horse and stop pretending your religion doesntt have a problem, that it is just a Catholic issue.
What is the name of your Church? Maybe I can find some there.
The only reason I gave you that is you continue to bring it up child abuse and insinuate that only Priests do it. The Catholic Church put it foot down 11 years ago. They continue to put their foot down. I know I have been a part of that being on the parish council.
This article says Baptists still hide it. I can send you stuff just on Texas Baptist if you want.
Pedophilia exists everywhere. Little kids Daddies in private families are the worst.
The pope is the highest person in power and if he says nothing and does nothing, then maybe he is only a figure head. Or maybe he agrees with it. Celibacy may be contributing to the problem. I agree that it is a problem that reaches other churches, but I thought the only true church could solve it in their own midst. I have been in a bible church for many years, I have not heard of any issues-does not mean that none exist.

If it was not for your high headed, better than thou power structure, we might find we have a lot in common. For instance I like Bill O'riely and Shawn Hanity.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#70 May 21, 2013
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>
The pope is the highest person in power and if he says nothing and does nothing, then maybe he is only a figure head. Or maybe he agrees with it. Celibacy may be contributing to the problem. I agree that it is a problem that reaches other churches, but I thought the only true church could solve it in their own midst. I have been in a bible church for many years, I have not heard of any issues-does not mean that none exist.
If it was not for your high headed, better than thou power structure, we might find we have a lot in common. For instance I like Bill O'riely and Shawn Hanity.
Why haven't the Popes done anything about. What nonense.

"Bobby: Maybe he (the Pope) agrees with it" That is a sad ignorant statement. What is the name of your church. I will check it out for you to see if it is safe for kids.

opbaptistpredators.org/index.htm

It is not a power structure, it is a Truth structure.

Jesus and his Apostles were celibate. They gave up everything to follow Christ.

Celibacy bears no causal relation to any type of deviant sexual addiction including pedophilia. In fact, married men are just as likely as celibate priests to sexually abuse children (Jenkins, Priests and Pedophilia). In the general population, the majority of abusers are regressed heterosexual men who sexually abuse girls. Women are also found to be among those sexual abusers. While it´s difficult to obtain accurate statistics on childhood sexual abuse, the characteristic patterns of repeat child sex offenders have
been well described. The profiles of child molesters never include normal adults who become erotically attracted to children as a result of abstinence
(Fred Berlin, "Compulsive Sexual Behaviors" in Addiction and Compulsion
Behaviors [Boston: NCBC, 1998]; Patrick J. Carnes, "Sexual Compulsion:
Challenge for Church Leaders" in Addiction and Compulsion; Dale O´Leary,
"Homosexuality and Abuse").
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#71 May 21, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Why haven't the Popes done anything about. What nonense.
"Bobby: Maybe he (the Pope) agrees with it" That is a sad ignorant statement. What is the name of your church. I will check it out for you to see if it is safe for kids.
opbaptistpredators.org/index.htm
It is not a power structure, it is a Truth structure.
Jesus and his Apostles were celibate. They gave up everything to follow Christ.
Celibacy bears no causal relation to any type of deviant sexual addiction including pedophilia. In fact, married men are just as likely as celibate priests to sexually abuse children (Jenkins, Priests and Pedophilia). In the general population, the majority of abusers are regressed heterosexual men who sexually abuse girls. Women are also found to be among those sexual abusers. While it´s difficult to obtain accurate statistics on childhood sexual abuse, the characteristic patterns of repeat child sex offenders have
been well described. The profiles of child molesters never include normal adults who become erotically attracted to children as a result of abstinence
(Fred Berlin, "Compulsive Sexual Behaviors" in Addiction and Compulsion
Behaviors [Boston: NCBC, 1998]; Patrick J. Carnes, "Sexual Compulsion:
Challenge for Church Leaders" in Addiction and Compulsion; Dale O´Leary,
"Homosexuality and Abuse").
Why are you taking a defensive position? The one thing I get out of this is that the tempter/deceiver is very active in our world-even in the church.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#72 May 21, 2013
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you taking a defensive position? The one thing I get out of this is that the tempter/deceiver is very active in our world-even in the church.
Because you just said that the Successor of Peter, the Vicar of Christ, and the leader of the Church Jesus agreed with Pedophillia.

Why do you deceive then? You make general statements without anything to back it up. That is willfully deceiving.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#73 May 21, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Because you just said that the Successor of Peter, the Vicar of Christ, and the leader of the Church Jesus agreed with Pedophillia.
Why do you deceive then? You make general statements without anything to back it up. That is willfully deceiving.
Wrong, there is no successor of Peter. I said by doing nothing that can be taken as agreeing with it.

Here is deception:
Church Legislation:(Canons 1391, 1399 1400) the faithful are not permitted to read vernacular translations of the Bible
which do not have the approval of the Holy See (Pope) and are not published under the vigilance of the bishops. For the
Catholic, the private interpretation of the individual is regarded as worthless, and only the authoritative verdict of the
infallible (Catholic) Church, exercising in this sphere its divine commission to teach, is valid.“If anyone believes any
scriptures beyond those which the Catholic Church has received are to be regarded as authoritative or held in esteem, let him
be anathema.”
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#74 May 21, 2013
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong, there is no successor of Peter. I said by doing nothing that can be taken as agreeing with it.
Here is deception:
Church Legislation:(Canons 1391, 1399 1400) the faithful are not permitted to read vernacular translations of the Bible
which do not have the approval of the Holy See (Pope) and are not published under the vigilance of the bishops. For the
Catholic, the private interpretation of the individual is regarded as worthless, and only the authoritative verdict of the
infallible (Catholic) Church, exercising in this sphere its divine commission to teach, is valid.“If anyone believes any
scriptures beyond those which the Catholic Church has received are to be regarded as authoritative or held in esteem, let him
be anathema.”
No successor of Peter and no Bible for 350 years? Find out the history of the Bible.

That is better post. You used some back up. Unfortunately what you quoted is wrong for those Canons. Were you trying to deceive again? If you to want to quote what the Church teaches you can go to the CCC free online or the Vatican website and I think they have just about every document in existence about the Church. Here are the Canons you cited.

What site did you use? Satancatholicchurch.com ?

.Enjoy

1390 §1. A person who falsely denounces before an ecclesiastical superior a confessor for the delict mentioned in &#8658; can. 1387 incurs a latae sententiae interdict and, if he is a cleric, also a suspension.

§2. A person who offers an ecclesiastical superior any other calumnious denunciation of a delict or who otherwise injures the good reputation of another can be punished with a just penalty, not excluding a censure.

§3. A calumniator can also be forced to make suitable reparation.

Can. 1391 The following can be punished with a just penalty according to the gravity of the delict. 1/ a person who produces a false public ecclesiastical document, who changes, destroys, or conceals an authentic one, or who uses a false or altered one;
2/ a person who uses another false or altered document in an ecclesiastical matter;
3/ a person who asserts a falsehood in a public ecclesiastical document.

Can. 1399 In addition to the cases established here or in other laws, the external violation of a divine or canonical law can be punished by a just penalty only when the special gravity of the violation demands punishment and there is an urgent need to prevent or repair scandals.

Can. 1400 §1. The object of a trial is:

1/ the pursuit or vindication of the rights of physical or juridic persons, or the declaration of juridic facts;

2/ the imposition or declaration of a penalty for delicts.

§2. Nevertheless, controversies arising from an act of administrative power can be brought only before the superior or an administrative tribunal.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#75 May 21, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
No successor of Peter and no Bible for 350 years? Find out the history of the Bible.
That is better post. You used some back up. Unfortunately what you quoted is wrong for those Canons. Were you trying to deceive again? If you to want to quote what the Church teaches you can go to the CCC free online or the Vatican website and I think they have just about every document in existence about the Church. Here are the Canons you cited.
What site did you use? Satancatholicchurch.com ?
.Enjoy
1390 §1. A person who falsely denounces before an ecclesiastical superior a confessor for the delict mentioned in &#8658; can. 1387 incurs a latae sententiae interdict and, if he is a cleric, also a suspension.
§2. A person who offers an ecclesiastical superior any other calumnious denunciation of a delict or who otherwise injures the good reputation of another can be punished with a just penalty, not excluding a censure.
§3. A calumniator can also be forced to make suitable reparation.
Can. 1391 The following can be punished with a just penalty according to the gravity of the delict. 1/ a person who produces a false public ecclesiastical document, who changes, destroys, or conceals an authentic one, or who uses a false or altered one;
2/ a person who uses another false or altered document in an ecclesiastical matter;
3/ a person who asserts a falsehood in a public ecclesiastical document.
Can. 1399 In addition to the cases established here or in other laws, the external violation of a divine or canonical law can be punished by a just penalty only when the special gravity of the violation demands punishment and there is an urgent need to prevent or repair scandals.
Can. 1400 §1. The object of a trial is:
1/ the pursuit or vindication of the rights of physical or juridic persons, or the declaration of juridic facts;
2/ the imposition or declaration of a penalty for delicts.
§2. Nevertheless, controversies arising from an act of administrative power can be brought only before the superior or an administrative tribunal.
I have you figured out Mike. You must think those poor ignorant heathens just do not know how much they need us catholics. We have the only truth and they cannot find it except through us.

Nothing any of us have to say will ever resonate with you, you are like talking to a stump.
Dave P

Versailles, KY

#76 May 21, 2013
Much Ashdod talk coming from the catholic corner.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#77 May 22, 2013
We are to know who is in Christ by their fruits and whether or not they keep to and abide in His words that lead to eternal life. I'll agree that child molestors are likely in most any Church, as are sinners of other things God has declared to be evil.

We can all see from history that there was little work of God in the RCC Pope politics and intrigue for bad men lining up to take the top position of ruling over the RCC. Absolute power corrupts - ever hear that saying? This is best evidenced by the string of Popes that seemed to only desire to out-do the previous pope in cruelty towards those who didn't bow to their rule and rules.

But since I believe it's the truth that matters most - I look at the doctrines taught as truth and see if the 'Original Jesus' is being upheld.

He said if one dies in their sins that they could not be where He was going - yet indulgences - paying ones friend/family member out of the justice of God - was something that could be done with money! Talk about flaunting the Holy justice of God with false doctrines to line the pocket of greed in the name of God!!!

And isn't it strange to note that Peter wasn't sitting in a ruling position at the Jerusalem Church? Peter supremacy? Give us a break and come up with SOMETHING true. All the apostles celibate? This is as rank as the previous claim, as the Scriptures evidence they had wives.

If you're going to tout a Church as 'the' Church, at least tell the truth - after all it is you who say the CC is the pillar of truth;-) The pillar of whose truth? Satan is the father of lies and liars... that's another thing Jesus taught.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#78 May 22, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
<quoted text>
Roman Ceasers, to maintain control through their Church when their empire collapsed.
St Ignatius, taught by the Apostle John, in 110 AD said that where ever the the Bishop is there is the Catholic Church, He was on the way to Rome to be killed by the Ceasar because he was Catholic.

So that couldn't be right. You maybe are confusing making Catholicism legal. Constantine did that to help control the population. Christians were a good example for the pagans.

The Church was on their 33rd Pope when Constantine legalized Christianity. Look it up

Protestants get confused with History, because History proves Protestantism is heretical.

Christianity = Catholicism for the first 1500 years
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#79 May 22, 2013
In the Western world this is largely so from the RCC viewpoint of itself. I've found serious issues with many of the historians of the early Church, so I don't take their words as gospel truth. Early on there were a number of 'Councils' that took place that many good men would not take part in because of what they were leading towards.

Those first generations, as well as ourselves today, need to stay with the truth as given by the Messiah - this is what 'Abide in My word' is all about.

Yes, I'd say many Protestants have wandered away from the principle of 'abiding', and thus end up teaching things that just are not so. The same can be said for the CC. CC upholding beliefs not soundly centered in the Scriptures are ample proof of that matter.

No man - not even Jesus Christ as a man on earth doing the will of the Father - has the authority to over-ride any word of God and bind anything upon Him.

The trees of deception have continued to grow through the centuries, and by now it's quite a wonder that anyone can see anything with so many beams in the eyes of the judges.

Jesus said to dig down to the bedrock of His word and be hearers and doers of the teachings from God that He gave us, which is what the original apostles did - they gave us His words because the Holy Spirit enabled them to recall all He had first taught them. There was not two gospels, there is only one gospel, and it is that gospel which has been from the beginning.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#80 May 22, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
We are to know who is in Christ by their fruits and whether or not they keep to and abide in His words that lead to eternal life. I'll agree that child molestors are likely in most any Church, as are sinners of other things God has declared to be evil.
We can all see from history that there was little work of God in the RCC Pope politics and intrigue for bad men lining up to take the top position of ruling over the RCC. Absolute power corrupts - ever hear that saying? This is best evidenced by the string of Popes that seemed to only desire to out-do the previous pope in cruelty towards those who didn't bow to their rule and rules.
But since I believe it's the truth that matters most - I look at the doctrines taught as truth and see if the 'Original Jesus' is being upheld.
He said if one dies in their sins that they could not be where He was going - yet indulgences - paying ones friend/family member out of the justice of God - was something that could be done with money! Talk about flaunting the Holy justice of God with false doctrines to line the pocket of greed in the name of God!!!
And isn't it strange to note that Peter wasn't sitting in a ruling position at the Jerusalem Church? Peter supremacy? Give us a break and come up with SOMETHING true. All the apostles celibate? This is as rank as the previous claim, as the Scriptures evidence they had wives.
If you're going to tout a Church as 'the' Church, at least tell the truth - after all it is you who say the CC is the pillar of truth;-) The pillar of whose truth? Satan is the father of lies and liars... that's another thing Jesus taught.
It is amazing how Mike has unified the rest of us. I completely agree with your assessment above.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#81 May 22, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
In the Western world this is largely so from the RCC viewpoint of itself. I've found serious issues with many of the historians of the early Church, so I don't take their words as gospel truth. Early on there were a number of 'Councils' that took place that many good men would not take part in because of what they were leading towards.
Those first generations, as well as ourselves today, need to stay with the truth as given by the Messiah - this is what 'Abide in My word' is all about.
Yes, I'd say many Protestants have wandered away from the principle of 'abiding', and thus end up teaching things that just are not so. The same can be said for the CC. CC upholding beliefs not soundly centered in the Scriptures are ample proof of that matter.
No man - not even Jesus Christ as a man on earth doing the will of the Father - has the authority to over-ride any word of God and bind anything upon Him.
The trees of deception have continued to grow through the centuries, and by now it's quite a wonder that anyone can see anything with so many beams in the eyes of the judges.
Jesus said to dig down to the bedrock of His word and be hearers and doers of the teachings from God that He gave us, which is what the original apostles did - they gave us His words because the Holy Spirit enabled them to recall all He had first taught them. There was not two gospels, there is only one gospel, and it is that gospel which has been from the beginning.
You are confusing church historians with history. If a Christian, Justin Marty, writes a letter to the Roman Emperor about how Christians worshiped in the 2nd Century he is not historian. He is merely telling the Emperor how he worships. A historian comes along and finds these documents, records them and may or may not give his explanation of those documents.

The Early Church Fathers were not historians. They were leaders of the Church and you can learn from the letters they wrote what life was about the. Just like reading the letter of a Civil War soldier to see what his life was like.

BTW, here is the letter Justin Marty wrote the Emporere shortly before he was killed by him for being a Catholic.

St Justin Martyr’s Letter to the Pagan
Emperor Antoninus Pius (c. AD 155)

In this letter St Justin explains the worship of the Christians.
On the day we call the day of the sun, all who dwell in the city or country gather in the same place. The memoirs of the apostles and the writings of the prophets are read,as much as time permits. When the reader has finished, he who presides over those gathered admonishes and challenges them to imitate those beautiful things.
Then we all rise together and offer prayers for ourselves... and for all others, wherever they may be... Then someone brings bread and a cup of water and wine mixed together to him who presides over the brethren. He takes them and offers praise and glory to the Father of the universe, through the name of the Son and of the Holy Spirit... When he has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all present give voice to an acclamation by saying: Amen. When he who presides has given thanks and the people have responded, those whom we call deacons give to those present the eucharisted bread, wine and water and take them to those who are absent.

Go to mass today and you can follow along with this letter.

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