What is the gospel - really?

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Barnsweb

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May 24, 2013
 
This guy brings up some good points to consider:

http://119ministries.com/videoteachings.aspx...

I've never heard it put this way...

Thoughts?
William

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May 25, 2013
 
I'm glad that he points out that there are more than one gospel in the Bible.

Gospel of the Kingdom
Gospel of the circumcision
Gospel of the uncircumcision
Gospel of God
Gospel of the Grace of God
Gospel of Jesus Christ
"My gospel" as stated by Paul
The everlasting gospel

So we better rightly divide the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15), in order to figure out which one of them applies to us.
Dave P

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May 25, 2013
 

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Watched several minutes so far. Pointed out some good stuff. Especially like the festival ideas and how they proclaim certain aspects of Christs' work. So far not bad, just not a believer of the millenial viewpoint. But otherwise, not bad. Finish today or tomorrow if my daughter lets me :)

She's almost two, is a lapdog and likes playing with the ipad when Daddy's working on it :)

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May 25, 2013
 
1 Cor. 15:1-10

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Bobby

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May 25, 2013
 

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Dave P wrote:
Watched several minutes so far. Pointed out some good stuff. Especially like the festival ideas and how they proclaim certain aspects of Christs' work. So far not bad, just not a believer of the millenial viewpoint. But otherwise, not bad. Finish today or tomorrow if my daughter lets me :)
She's almost two, is a lapdog and likes playing with the ipad when Daddy's working on it :)
Funny... I agree with premillennial theology but don't place my confidence for salvation in it. The problem I have with the people doing the video is their hebrew roots philosophy.Yes there is some good stuff in it.

Enjoy those children, they grow up fast. My youngest granddaughter spent the night with us last might, she is 10.
Bobby

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May 25, 2013
 
William wrote:
I'm glad that he points out that there are more than one gospel in the Bible.
Gospel of the Kingdom
Gospel of the circumcision
Gospel of the uncircumcision
Gospel of God
Gospel of the Grace of God
Gospel of Jesus Christ
"My gospel" as stated by Paul
The everlasting gospel
So we better rightly divide the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15), in order to figure out which one of them applies to us.
http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/comment...

In regard to the gospel (Exposing the False Teachers) the last paragraph says this:

It is never pleasant to expose the deceptive, destructive tactics of the "false brothers." But it is necessary to do so in order to protect the freedom of fellow Christians. Of course circumcision is not an issue today. But we are constantly faced with a choice between different religious options. They are not all the same; they are not all spokes on a wheel leading to the same hub. Some religious options lead to slavery and imprisonment. Only by obedience to the truth of the gospel of Christ can we protect the freedom that is ours in Christ.
William

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May 25, 2013
 
Bobby, do you believe that each of the gospels listed in the Bible are all the exact same thing?

Is the gospel of the kingdom found in Matthew the exact same thing as what Paul was given to preach in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4?
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May 25, 2013
 

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HEATH - 72 wrote:
1 Cor. 15:1-10
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Amen, I hope you believe it...
Dave P

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May 25, 2013
 
Side note-don't know if William is actually in Gadsden, Alabama, but I have been there-beautiful little place.
Bobby

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May 25, 2013
 
William wrote:
Bobby, do you believe that each of the gospels listed in the Bible are all the exact same thing?
Is the gospel of the kingdom found in Matthew the exact same thing as what Paul was given to preach in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4?
Yes, in the sense that the gospel is always defined by the cross. Those who were under circumcision still had their hope in the Jewish messiah. They were looking for an earthly kingdom and an earthly king, but many of them did not see the greater picture. I do not think any of us see the whole picture, what we have to do is trust in the grace of God revealed in the cross of Jesus-keep our eyes/hearts fixed on Jesus-"Looking to Jesus the author and finisher of our faith". We are not required to theological experts.
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May 25, 2013
 
Surely, if there is one Lord, one faith and one baptism (and one God and Father of all), the is not one gospel for the Jew and another for the Gentile. We see that both were worshiping together in the early Church history in Scripture.

That may not be a popular view, but then truth, unlike 'polls' constantly being taken today, is not based on opinion, but upon the words of God.

I still need to go on to view the second half of the lesson, as there are two videos.
Barnsweb

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May 25, 2013
 
One point that he made quite well was the NT quote that the same gospel had been preached to those in the OT....
William

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May 25, 2013
 
Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again (for our justification) is the gospel that Paul received. It is obviously not the same gospel as the gospel that John the Baptist preached, so there is a marked difference in the content of what the gospels contained.

It would have been rather odd to have John the Baptist preach what was given to Paul to preach, since Christ had not even come along yet, much less died and had been resurrected. And that is not what he preached to Israel either.

So yes, there is more than one gospel.
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May 25, 2013
 
Not in Gadsden today. Is that what it shows, Dave? Cannot tell from this phone.
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May 25, 2013
 
Barnsweb wrote:
Surely, if there is one Lord, one faith and one baptism (and one God and Father of all), the is not one gospel for the Jew and another for the Gentile. We see that both were worshiping together in the early Church history in Scripture.
That may not be a popular view, but then truth, unlike 'polls' constantly being taken today, is not based on opinion, but upon the words of God.
I still need to go on to view the second half of the lesson, as there are two videos.
I agree, there is but one gospel for both Jew and gentile, but as we know, most of the jews rejected the gospel and in fact were responsible for killing their own messiah. By extension we are all guilty because our sin was laid upon Jesus also.
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May 25, 2013
 
William wrote:
Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again (for our justification) is the gospel that Paul received. It is obviously not the same gospel as the gospel that John the Baptist preached, so there is a marked difference in the content of what the gospels contained.
It would have been rather odd to have John the Baptist preach what was given to Paul to preach, since Christ had not even come along yet, much less died and had been resurrected. And that is not what he preached to Israel either.
So yes, there is more than one gospel.
Sorry but I disagree. The fact that Jesus had not yet died uopn the cross does not change that John was the forerunner to Christ where the gospel is found-John pointed to him.

The gospel was veiled in the OT but nevertheless it was there, as found in heb 4:2.
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May 25, 2013
 
John the Baptist preached repentence to Israel for the coming of their long prophesied Messiah. The Judaism practiced by their leaders was an abomination, and in order to accept their Messiah they had to turn from it.

When Christ starts his ministry with the 12, he and they confine their ministry to the lost sheep of the house of this same Israel. Matthew 10:5-7 and Matthew 15:24 confirm it. They aren't even preaching to the likes of any of us today, yet churches every Sunday preach Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John without rightly dividing the word of truth.

No wonder confusion constantly abounds. And will continue to abound.
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May 25, 2013
 
William, have you listened to even the first video? You might be missing the point he was making.
Bobby

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May 25, 2013
 
William wrote:
John the Baptist preached repentence to Israel for the coming of their long prophesied Messiah. The Judaism practiced by their leaders was an abomination, and in order to accept their Messiah they had to turn from it.
When Christ starts his ministry with the 12, he and they confine their ministry to the lost sheep of the house of this same Israel. Matthew 10:5-7 and Matthew 15:24 confirm it. They aren't even preaching to the likes of any of us today, yet churches every Sunday preach Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John without rightly dividing the word of truth.
No wonder confusion constantly abounds. And will continue to abound.
I can see where you are coming from and where you are going with this. There is some merit to but it is on shaky ground.

Judaism itself was not an abomination but the way it was being practiced at the time was not true the law itself. The Pharisees were more like a political party than the people of God-they were misusing the law. That is why the Pharisee Paul became such a great apostle-he saw his evil ways and repented, accepting the gospel. Admittedly this was after the resurrection of Christ but those same jews witnessed the gospel and rejected it. So they did hear and witness the gospel.

I agree with the part that says to the Jew first then to the gentiles. I do not believe God is finished with the Jews though.
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May 25, 2013
 
William wrote:
Not in Gadsden today. Is that what it shows, Dave? Cannot tell from this phone.
Yeah it was what it showed. It is nice there though.

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