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Bobby

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#81
Jul 3, 2013
 
Mike Peterson wrote:
Bobby: " Plus, look at the motivation- join the RIGHT church or go to hell. Is hell enough of a motivation to search for Jesus? Why don't we present the POSITIVE things, such as having a purpose and meaning in life, freedom in Christ, eternal life, joy and peace, etc?"
Sure, we welcome you to the Church with open arms to experience the fullness of the Truth which will set you free. You can find out about all of things.
Not your own personal experience of what those mean.
Sorry Mike, but I can't see anything in your church that I do not already have-minus the legalism.
Bobby

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Jul 3, 2013
 

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MarkEden wrote:
Maybe I should try telling the 39,000 prot denominations what they believe!
We need to know what catholics believe so that we do not become entangled in the same lies.
Mike Peterson

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#83
Jul 3, 2013
 
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Sorry Mike, but I can't see anything in your church that I do not already have-minus the legalism.
You don't have the pillar and foundation of Truth.

You have a Catholic Book only.
Bobby

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#84
Jul 3, 2013
 
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You don't have the pillar and foundation of Truth.
You have a Catholic Book only.
Jesus is rock of my foundation!

1 cor3:11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.
R-oman C-atholic SPROUL

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The Catholic church built their church upon "petros" or a man(a pebble). The real church is built upon "petra" or Christ the solid rock.
R-oman C-atholic SPROUL

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#86
Jul 3, 2013
 
Today was not a good day for the Catholics. They left early with their head down in defeat unable to counter the truth of the Protestants. You might say they were petered out.
Dave P

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#87
Jul 3, 2013
 
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I think non-Catholics having the balls to tell Catholics what the Church believes is pretty damned funny! You simply cannot justify being a prot and we all know it.
This isn't telling you what the church believes. Your speech betrays you. You don't know the Lord. Being in the right church doesn't matter when your heart is wrong.

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#88
Jul 4, 2013
 
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This isn't telling you what the church believes. Your speech betrays you. You don't know the Lord. Being in the right church doesn't matter when your heart is wrong.
I sure as hell know low end prots.
Barnsweb

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#89
Jul 4, 2013
 
'Legalism' is an issue? What did Jesus preach? To repent? Wasn't that 'legalistic'?
To keep His commandments? Isn't that legalistic?
To love God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength? And who has been 100% with that one?
If there is no law, then how can we keep His commandments? And why have the Spirit if the prophecy is true in Ezekiel 36:26, which says God will give the Spirit to help draw our hearts to keep His laws? Peter could well have quoted Ezekiel 36:24-28 as the backdrop of the promise of the Holy Spirit being fulfilled, as it goes hand in hand with Acts 3:22,23 as well.

Those who say to live by the Spirit apart from the words of God need to see if they really are in the faith of Jesus Christ, as prophesied and fulfilled.
R-oman C-atholic SPROUL

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#90
Jul 4, 2013
 
Barnsweb wrote:
'Legalism' is an issue? What did Jesus preach? To repent? Wasn't that 'legalistic'?
To keep His commandments? Isn't that legalistic?
To love God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength? And who has been 100% with that one?
If there is no law, then how can we keep His commandments? And why have the Spirit if the prophecy is true in Ezekiel 36:26, which says God will give the Spirit to help draw our hearts to keep His laws? Peter could well have quoted Ezekiel 36:24-28 as the backdrop of the promise of the Holy Spirit being fulfilled, as it goes hand in hand with Acts 3:22,23 as well.
Those who say to live by the Spirit apart from the words of God need to see if they really are in the faith of Jesus Christ, as prophesied and fulfilled.
Some people may call following the commands of Jesus legalistic, I do not. What comes from God is just fact. I think you get legalistic with interpretations of what God said. The input of human reasoning leads to legalism along with ignoring the whole teaching of the bible. You cannot leave out grace and mercy or leave out the commands of God. God gave both to us.

An example of the Catholics, Priests can forgive sins and we must confess to them before communion. I do not see it in the bible. Is it legalism?

An example of some Churches of Christ, They teach we are commanded to partake of the Lords Supper on the first day and that they can ignore having bishops. That I consider the Churches of Christ legal system.

I distinguish legalism in that way. Gods commands are not legalism because he is God. It someone wants to consider them legalism than they must distinguish between the two, Gods legalism and mans legalism. Man following his system or variation of Gods system, that I consider legalism. The word is thrown around carelessly.
R-oman C-atholic SPROUL

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We need to take up a collection and buy Mark some peanuts. I have noticed on my latest posts the peanuts are absent. I believe he has run out.
Mike Peterson

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#92
Jul 4, 2013
 
RCS: "An example of the Catholics, Priests can forgive sins and we must confess to them before communion. I do not see it in the bible. Is it legalism?"

Once again an error of Protestantism. The Bible is never mentioned in the Bible.

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#93
Jul 4, 2013
 
R-oman C-atholic SPROUL wrote:
We need to take up a collection and buy Mark some peanuts. I have noticed on my latest posts the peanuts are absent. I believe he has run out.
I have switched to invisible middle fingers.
Dave P

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#94
Jul 4, 2013
 
Mike Peterson wrote:
RCS: "An example of the Catholics, Priests can forgive sins and we must confess to them before communion. I do not see it in the bible. Is it legalism?"
Once again an error of Protestantism. The Bible is never mentioned in the Bible.
Once again you are in error. How many times did Jesus mention the scriptures? Peter said Pauls' writings- NT- were scripture. You're concerned with the technical name, THE HOLY BIBLE. The Greek word for Bible is biblos. THE VERY FIRST WORD IN THE GREEK NEW TESTAMENT IS "BIBLOS". Matthews' gospel is "bible". In John 20:30 he declares all things are not written in his biblos. Hebrews 10 and Galatians 3 both include the OT as "biblos".
Dave P

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#95
Jul 4, 2013
 
I sure as hell know low end prots.
I have switched to invisible middle fingers.

Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

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#96
Jul 4, 2013
 
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I sure as hell know low end prots.
I have switched to invisible middle fingers.
Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
and here's one for you!
Dave P

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Jul 4, 2013
 
R-oman C-atholic SPROUL wrote:
<quoted text>Some people may call following the commands of Jesus legalistic, I do not. What comes from God is just fact. I think you get legalistic with interpretations of what God said. The input of human reasoning leads to legalism along with ignoring the whole teaching of the bible. You cannot leave out grace and mercy or leave out the commands of God. God gave both to us.
An example of the Catholics, Priests can forgive sins and we must confess to them before communion. I do not see it in the bible. Is it legalism?
An example of some Churches of Christ, They teach we are commanded to partake of the Lords Supper on the first day and that they can ignore having bishops. That I consider the Churches of Christ legal system.
I distinguish legalism in that way. Gods commands are not legalism because he is God. It someone wants to consider them legalism than they must distinguish between the two, Gods legalism and mans legalism. Man following his system or variation of Gods system, that I consider legalism. The word is thrown around carelessly.
I think you get legalistic with interpretations of what God said. The input of human reasoning leads to legalism along with ignoring the whole teaching of the bible. You cannot leave out grace and mercy or leave out the commands of God. God gave both to us.

*That's the key. I think two issues are at play here, and you and BW hit them both.

1. Interpretations of what God said- can get legalistic.
2. New Spirit- big difference in walking in the Spirit, allowing Spirit to lead us in keeping commands vs. our own effort attempting to keep law, be self-justified. Brings legalistic ideas out.

Catholic example- is it legalism? Yes.
COC example- is it legalism? Yes.
Bobby

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#98
Jul 4, 2013
 
Mike Peterson wrote:
RCS: "An example of the Catholics, Priests can forgive sins and we must confess to them before communion. I do not see it in the bible. Is it legalism?"
Once again an error of Protestantism. The Bible is never mentioned in the Bible.
Legalism is creating law from the commandments of men. Catholic priest cannot forgive sin, so that one is clearly a commandment of men-"thou must go to a priest to receive forgiveness of your sin" BCV please?
Mike Peterson

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Jul 4, 2013
 
Dave P wrote:
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Once again you are in error. How many times did Jesus mention the scriptures? Peter said Pauls' writings- NT- were scripture. You're concerned with the technical name, THE HOLY BIBLE. The Greek word for Bible is biblos. THE VERY FIRST WORD IN THE GREEK NEW TESTAMENT IS "BIBLOS". Matthews' gospel is "bible". In John 20:30 he declares all things are not written in his biblos. Hebrews 10 and Galatians 3 both include the OT as "biblos".
You are way out on this one even for a Prot.

Errors of Protestantism. See Dave P as an example.

I have to add low church Protestantism for Mark.
Dave P

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Jul 4, 2013
 
Bobby wrote:
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Legalism is creating law from the commandments of men. Catholic priest cannot forgive sin, so that one is clearly a commandment of men-"thou must go to a priest to receive forgiveness of your sin" BCV please?
Matthew 15:1-9 fits well here.

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