COC's 6 steps of salvation not in Bible

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#1 Jan 21, 2014
The Church Of Christ insists that God set down 6 steps all people must follow to be saved. They are hear, believe, repent, confess, be baptized, and be faithful.

But I can't find anywhere in the New Testament that it says to hear, believe, repent, confess, be baptized and be faithful in that exact order.

The "hearing" part is found in Romans 10. You have to jump to Hebrews 11 to find the "believe" part. Then fall backward to Acts 17 for "repent" and farther back in Acts 8 for "confess", then falls back farther for "be baptized" in Acts 2. The "be faithful" is a very big jump back ahead in First Peter 2.

If salvation must follow those 6 steps and they are so important then why aren't they found sequential together in the New Testament? Why does the Church Of Christ pick and choose which steps must be followed and which order they must be in? The Church Of Christ has people tap dancing all over the New Testament to have salvation. It doesn't sound like something Jesus would have us do. Jesus said to come to him. He didn't say skip hop and jump to him.

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#2 Jan 22, 2014
Olethros wrote:
The Church Of Christ insists that God set down 6 steps all people must follow to be saved. They are hear, believe, repent, confess, be baptized, and be faithful.
But I can't find anywhere in the New Testament that it says to hear, believe, repent, confess, be baptized and be faithful in that exact order.
The "hearing" part is found in Romans 10. You have to jump to Hebrews 11 to find the "believe" part. Then fall backward to Acts 17 for "repent" and farther back in Acts 8 for "confess", then falls back farther for "be baptized" in Acts 2. The "be faithful" is a very big jump back ahead in First Peter 2.
If salvation must follow those 6 steps and they are so important then why aren't they found sequential together in the New Testament? Why does the Church Of Christ pick and choose which steps must be followed and which order they must be in? The Church Of Christ has people tap dancing all over the New Testament to have salvation. It doesn't sound like something Jesus would have us do. Jesus said to come to him. He didn't say skip hop and jump to him.
160 The sum of Your word is truth,
And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#3 Jan 22, 2014
Olethros wrote:
The Church Of Christ insists that God set down 6 steps all people must follow to be saved. They are hear, believe, repent, confess, be baptized, and be faithful.
But I can't find anywhere in the New Testament that it says to hear, believe, repent, confess, be baptized and be faithful in that exact order.
The "hearing" part is found in Romans 10. You have to jump to Hebrews 11 to find the "believe" part. Then fall backward to Acts 17 for "repent" and farther back in Acts 8 for "confess", then falls back farther for "be baptized" in Acts 2. The "be faithful" is a very big jump back ahead in First Peter 2.
If salvation must follow those 6 steps and they are so important then why aren't they found sequential together in the New Testament? Why does the Church Of Christ pick and choose which steps must be followed and which order they must be in? The Church Of Christ has people tap dancing all over the New Testament to have salvation. It doesn't sound like something Jesus would have us do. Jesus said to come to him. He didn't say skip hop and jump to him.
Because they cannot distinguish between the word of God and the word of false apostles.
Dave P

Dahlonega, GA

#4 Jan 23, 2014
In related news, has anyone noticed that the tide is turning in evangelical circles? It is becoming more noticeable to many that the sinner's prayer idea is unbiblical, and several have came out against it. Guys named Francis Chan and Todd Friel are two notable public voices stating that the whole idea is wrong and needs to be reevaluated.

That is good news, along with many in coc circles coming around on their ideas.
William

Birmingham, AL

#5 Jan 23, 2014
Olethros wrote:
The Church Of Christ insists that God set down 6 steps all people must follow to be saved. They are hear, believe, repent, confess, be baptized, and be faithful.
But I can't find anywhere in the New Testament that it says to hear, believe, repent, confess, be baptized and be faithful in that exact order.
That's because the verses are cherry-picked and strung together to form a so-called "salvation formula" that fits a man-made doctrine. There is no right division (2 Timothy 2:15 in a KJV) and there is no "proving things that are more excellent" either. Instructions given to Israel in Matthew-John and early Acts from Peter are morphed together with instructions given to heathen gentiles from Paul, and they are not compatible. Galatians 2:16 and James 2:24-26 are a perfect example, regarding justification.

I've seen four, five, six, and as many as 14 instructions on Church of Christ websites and Facebook regarding their "salvation formula" and they all point to baptismal regeneration and a works-based salvation despite their aggressive defense of there being no works involved in order for one to be saved by grace through faith, apart from works. They aggressively promote the idea that we are not saved and justified based on what Christ did for us, with his righteousness imputed to our account when we trust that he died for our sins, was buried, and resurrected for our justification. You can easily see that they have no peace about them when discussing salvation, and they have no assurance of it as a result.

It's a dangerous false religion but there are plenty of other ones out there that are essentially just like it. Roman Catholicism started it and the CoC has taken up the banner of works for salvation, despite what the Bible says.

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#6 Jan 23, 2014
JustChristian wrote:
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160 The sum of Your word is truth,
And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting.
How many people did you greet with a holy kiss on Sunday?
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#7 Jan 24, 2014
William wrote:
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That's because the verses are cherry-picked and strung together to form a so-called "salvation formula" that fits a man-made doctrine. There is no right division (2 Timothy 2:15 in a KJV) and there is no "proving things that are more excellent" either. Instructions given to Israel in Matthew-John and early Acts from Peter are morphed together with instructions given to heathen gentiles from Paul, and they are not compatible. Galatians 2:16 and James 2:24-26 are a perfect example, regarding justification.
I've seen four, five, six, and as many as 14 instructions on Church of Christ websites and Facebook regarding their "salvation formula" and they all point to baptismal regeneration and a works-based salvation despite their aggressive defense of there being no works involved in order for one to be saved by grace through faith, apart from works. They aggressively promote the idea that we are not saved and justified based on what Christ did for us, with his righteousness imputed to our account when we trust that he died for our sins, was buried, and resurrected for our justification. You can easily see that they have no peace about them when discussing salvation, and they have no assurance of it as a result.
It's a dangerous false religion but there are plenty of other ones out there that are essentially just like it. Roman Catholicism started it and the CoC has taken up the banner of works for salvation, despite what the Bible says.
If God gave a promise to all generations since it was declared - and this promise is also a command - will God help those who refuse to believe and do His commandments or believe in His promises? I think you owe God and CoCers an apology.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#8 Jan 24, 2014
Dave P wrote:
In related news, has anyone noticed that the tide is turning in evangelical circles? It is becoming more noticeable to many that the sinner's prayer idea is unbiblical, and several have came out against it. Guys named Francis Chan and Todd Friel are two notable public voices stating that the whole idea is wrong and needs to be reevaluated.
That is good news, along with many in coc circles coming around on their ideas.
It has been well known for 2000 years that the sinners prayer is unbiblical. Make that 500 years because that is when it was invented by a man.

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