Why I am NOT a member of the Church of Christ

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Jun 8, 2013
 

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Barnsweb wrote:
I avoid CoCs that don't hold fast to the whole promise of God (forgiveness of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit). It seems to be a common indicator with other issues.
Think it over and see if you might also have had the same experience.
The COC is just another non-Catholic ecclesial community. It was good marketing strategy to name it from a bible verse though so they can say, our name is in the Bible.
Yolanda Xavier Yodel

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Jun 8, 2013
 
Except that their name isn't in the Bible. Go to an online Bible, and do a search for "church of Christ". It's not there.
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Jun 16, 2013
 
'the Churches of Christ salute you' isn't in the Bible!!!!?????
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Jun 16, 2013
 
Romans 16:16
Yolanda Xavier Yodel

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Jun 17, 2013
 
Ah, but there's the rub, Barnsweb. People like Johnny Robertson complain that other Christians aren't in churches found in the Bible because their exact name isn't found in the Bible. Yes, there are baptisms, but no baptists. There are presbyters, but no presbyterians. And to be in a church not found in the Bible is an unforgivable sin.

Therefore, to use their own argument, there are "churches of Christ" mentioned, but no singular "church of Christ". To say that there are is to speak where the Bible is silent, and that's a big no-no to a church of Christ person.

And so if you are in a church called "church of Christ", it is not found in the Bible, and it must be sinful. Right? Or do they get a free pass on this one for some reason?
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Jun 17, 2013
 
In light of what Jesus said and knowing God is no respecter of persons - you won't find me ranting on the same things as Johnny to condemn other brethren in Christ. I can't imagine we'd be able to find such an accuser without true cause in very many Church fellowships.

It's really sad the way some bring a Church into disrepute because they have no control of their tongue and have such profound lack of grasping what matters most to God.
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Jun 17, 2013
 
Barnsweb wrote:
In light of what Jesus said and knowing God is no respecter of persons - you won't find me ranting on the same things as Johnny to condemn other brethren in Christ. I can't imagine we'd be able to find such an accuser without true cause in very many Church fellowships.
It's really sad the way some bring a Church into disrepute because they have no control of their tongue and have such profound lack of grasping what matters most to God.
What matters most to God is for us to join him in heaven.
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Jun 17, 2013
 
And for us to join with Him while we're on earth -
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Jun 17, 2013
 
Barnsweb, if you don't join Johnny on his rants, then I probably have no argument with you, nor do I have a problem with the people who worship with the church of Christ. I can agree to disagree with the best of them, but it's the hardline folks who get under my skin.
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Jun 17, 2013
 
Yolanda Xavier Yodel wrote:
Barnsweb, if you don't join Johnny on his rants, then I probably have no argument with you, nor do I have a problem with the people who worship with the church of Christ. I can agree to disagree with the best of them, but it's the hardline folks who get under my skin.
Who do you agree with? What non-Catholic ecclesial community?
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I make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.(Hebrews 12:14).

And you, Mike?
Bobby

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Yolanda Xavier Yodel wrote:
Ah, but there's the rub, Barnsweb. People like Johnny Robertson complain that other Christians aren't in churches found in the Bible because their exact name isn't found in the Bible. Yes, there are baptisms, but no baptists. There are presbyters, but no presbyterians. And to be in a church not found in the Bible is an unforgivable sin.
Therefore, to use their own argument, there are "churches of Christ" mentioned, but no singular "church of Christ". To say that there are is to speak where the Bible is silent, and that's a big no-no to a church of Christ person.
And so if you are in a church called "church of Christ", it is not found in the Bible, and it must be sinful. Right? Or do they get a free pass on this one for some reason?
Very good assessment, that is what I see. I think there is more though. The main concern with protestant churches (I hate that word though) because I would rather we were known for what we believe than what we oppose.

Protestants especially ones like the coc have a lot in common with catholics but want complete separation. Actually what they do is try to become the only one true church same as the catholics claim. Looking for that correct name is foolish because the bible uses many names to describe the church. In that sense catholic is as good a name as any. In the end God will separate the tares from the wheat-not us.

I see the problem we experience as coming for the catholic tradition-things not found in scripture. This is where catholics and protestants separate.

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Jun 17, 2013
 
Yolanda Xavier Yodel wrote:
Ah, but there's the rub, Barnsweb. People like Johnny Robertson complain that other Christians aren't in churches found in the Bible because their exact name isn't found in the Bible. Yes, there are baptisms, but no baptists. There are presbyters, but no presbyterians. And to be in a church not found in the Bible is an unforgivable sin.
Therefore, to use their own argument, there are "churches of Christ" mentioned, but no singular "church of Christ". To say that there are is to speak where the Bible is silent, and that's a big no-no to a church of Christ person.
And so if you are in a church called "church of Christ", it is not found in the Bible, and it must be sinful. Right? Or do they get a free pass on this one for some reason?
Your problem is that the church is singular for it belongs to Christ. It is his, bought by his blood, purchased by His death and established by his word. The bible does go on after that romans text to explain what the word churches means. It was the different groups meeting. For example the church of Sardis etc. which would be different churches of Christ. However a name does not make a group right or wrong the teaching of that group is the key to whether they are the church of Christ.
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Bobby wrote:
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Very good assessment, that is what I see. I think there is more though. The main concern with protestant churches (I hate that word though) because I would rather we were known for what we believe than what we oppose.
Protestants especially ones like the coc have a lot in common with catholics but want complete separation. Actually what they do is try to become the only one true church same as the catholics claim. Looking for that correct name is foolish because the bible uses many names to describe the church. In that sense catholic is as good a name as any. In the end God will separate the tares from the wheat-not us.
I see the problem we experience as coming for the catholic tradition-things not found in scripture. This is where catholics and protestants separate.
Good post. I like it.
Mike Peterson

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Yolanda Xavier Yodel wrote:
I make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.(Hebrews 12:14).
And you, Mike?
That is pretty vague.

I believe that the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus started. It is the pillar and foundation of Truth. The Church existed 350 years before the Bible existed and created the Bible in AD 382 to help her teach.

It was the only Church for 1500 years. There is no historical proof of any other Christian Church.

In 1520, heretics led by Father Luther, divided up the unity that God wanted.

Each of the heretics took part of the Truth from the Church, so every non catholic community sprang from the Catholic Church.

But they continue to split from each other heading to ground zero which is the "Bible and Me"

Sola Scriptura which is not found anywhere in God's Word is the cause of this.
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JOHNNY ROBERTSON PREACHER MAN REMARKS OF THE GAY COMMUNITY

JOHNNY ROBERTSON CHURCH OF CHRIST PREACHER REMARKS OF THE GAY COMMUNITY.

On one of Johnny Robertsonís TV shows which is broadcast on WGSR TV in Reidsville NC with sister station in Martinsville Virginia said the following remarks on one of his shows: The son of the owner of the station who is a multiple convicted thief by the way seems close to this preacher and is aware of these statements and accepts these types of broadcast.

Johnny Robertson said there was a day running around trying to find their identity the homosexual was kind of a person trying to find himself running around with the girls kind of acting like the girls although heís a boy heís acting like girls but not fitting in, after all heĎs a boy. Johnny Robertson continue saying heís trying to do things the girls do and acting silly and the boys are calling him a sissy. Johnny Robertson said the girls know heís not a girl but they kind of like the sensitive side of the man coming out, and wouldnít it be nice if we were all this sensitive except for when we need a man and what have you got, Well you got a hypersensitive sissy that is running around with you and you donít have a man.

Johnny Robertson continue and then said What difference does it make as long as they care for each other. You could keep making that argument until you could marry your dog

Johnny Robertson also made remarks gays are loud, very aggressive very in your face shove it down your throat.

Johnny Robertson said he investigated and they canít get along together and they donĎt stay together for very long. He said some have as many partners as 500. He said the Homosexual community is unrestrained as anything on the planet.
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Jun 17, 2013
 
Charles Roark WGSR TV multiple convicted thief one of his numerous crimes stealing one hundred thousand dollars worth of video equipment.Roark announced Johnny Robertsonís had a controversial show coming that night on Channel 18 and he phoned Johnny.Breaking News on the screen. Robertson told Roark they were going to have a hard time showing the video because it was so graphic. He said when he played it in Martinsville show that night he was going to have pictures from the video and then heíll have a blank out so that you canít actually see what they saw but it will indicate to you what was able to be viewed. Johnny told Roark itís an old looking video on purpose so that he wouldnít be liable in the sense of letting people see something thatís questionable.A couple of clips of the girls were shown during this phone conversation and big blue circles had been placed on their private areas. Johnny told Charles Roark you donít have to be involved on internet porn these days you can go to the church building sit on the front row and you get to see children according to Johnny Robertson you get to see everything you see in some of these kiddy porn shops.Johnny Robertson said his question is would this fall in the category of exploiting children when youíre showing an audience below them dancing above them the audience is below and you have these children exposing their undergarments one of them 11 times in a one-minute segment and went on to say without cover except for panties and giving a clear frontal crotch shot.When Charles Roark questioned Johnny what the girls were showing Johnny said yes panties. Johnny said eleven times in one minute youíve got a full clear shot of this underage girls and sheís up on a stage and people are down below you can see them down below and theyíre looking up they get to view. He went on saying if personís heard that the little boys were going into girlsí bathrooms peaking through and seeing their panties they would have a fit. Johnny said you donít have to go in the girlsí bathroom anymore not in a Christian church around here. Many other remarks were made about the girls and Roark said he guess the perverts will need to start going to church and laughs and Robertson said he thinks some of them are going to church and thatís what theyíre going for Johnny Robertson broadcast the girls in Reidsville about a week after this phone call This is the show I saw I donít know what was shown in Martinsville.Johnny made many of the same remarks he had made on the phone conversation and showed video of the girls dancing in ballerina outfits. He had placed big blue circles on their private areas as if the girls were showing themselves. There were a few callers on the show that night not many. One lady talked about her shorts, another lady talked about if you look and lust you were sinning,another lady talked about her mom always wore a dress and was lady like. While Johnny was playing the video of the girls dancing he said this was the kind of behavior going on in the church where eleven times in one minute these young ladies were on stage above the individuals where they were looking up.Johnny bent and looked up and said not straight like we were looking He said they were actually seeing eleven times instances of straight on undergarments. He said he just knew they were really close to actually breaking the obscenity laws in North Carolina. Johnny showed the Obscenity law and read it. Johnny said he was very thankful the community had weighed in tonight in such a positive fashion they didnít want to be seeing young girls that age showing their under garments out in public,at the mall or in church or any of these places.(My question here would be how can he get a few phones calls less than you can count on your hands and then claim the community weighed in?)Johnny said he hoped and prayed there would be some individuals who would call or write The First Christian Church in Kernersville North Carolina

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Jun 17, 2013
 
Note wrote:
Johnny Robertson also made remarks gays are loud, very aggressive very in your face shove it down your throat.
So is Johnny Robertson.
Note wrote:
He said the Homosexual community is unrestrained as anything on the planet.
So is Johnny Robertson.
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Jun 17, 2013
 
Johnny who?

Johnny who cares. Old old news. No news actually.
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Jun 17, 2013
 
RELIGIOUS REVIEW WITH JAMES OLDFIELD AND MARK MCKINNIS
Mug shots shown of the Willis Brothers who was arrested in connection with the car burning and shooting death of Jessica Walker. A photo of Jessica Walker was also on the screen.
James Oldfield and Mark McKinnis were talking about other preachers especially Baptist. James Oldfield accused preachers of being criminals.
James Oldfield said those preachers were a criminal just like the Willis brothers. He added they may not have murdered.

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