Feds Fight to Stop Baptisms

Feds Fight to Stop Baptisms

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ABC

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Sep 6, 2013
Shouldn't the cofC be contesting this. I konw most have baptistries, but suppose one soul does everything right and has to wait 48 hours to be baptized. What if he dies with every step done but baptism? Couldn;t cofC argue this could send one to hell becuase he wanted to be baptized but was denied, so his faith, confession, repentance, etc. counted for naught?


The National Park Service recently began requiring churches to obtain special use permits in order to baptize converts in public waters. The National Park Service (NPS) also began requiring these churches that wanted to baptize to give the NPS notice of their plans forty-eight hours in advance. To make sure that they churches didn’t try and skirt the rules the NPS even brought in boulders and large rocks to place along the path so that the churches couldn’t drive up their elderly congregants to observe the baptisms.
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#2 Sep 6, 2013
ABC wrote:
Shouldn't the cofC be contesting this. I konw most have baptistries, but suppose one soul does everything right and has to wait 48 hours to be baptized. What if he dies with every step done but baptism? Couldn;t cofC argue this could send one to hell becuase he wanted to be baptized but was denied, so his faith, confession, repentance, etc. counted for naught?
Well, yeah, but since there's no hell, legal or otherwise, the point is kind of moot. I'd argue that the government, by placing restrictions, gave the soon to be deceased more fulfilling and worthwhile things to do with their remaining days.
MrT

Martinsville, VA

#3 Sep 6, 2013
Seems like cofC would definitely be able to sue since they push hard that one can not be saved until he is baptized by immersion and in the proper manner and understanding. Essentially their entire doctrine is based on water baptism.
Dave P

Dahlonega, GA

#4 Sep 6, 2013
This is a few days old. National Park already backed off the idea. Yelling at your congressman does work sometimes.
William

Anniston, AL

#5 Sep 6, 2013
Dave P wrote:
This is a few days old. National Park already backed off the idea. Yelling at your congressman does work sometimes.
Yell at them a whole bunch more over this Syria mess, before this clown gets us into a bona-fide trainwreck.

Your senators too.
Barnsweb

Louisville, OH

#6 Sep 7, 2013
William wrote:
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Yell at them a whole bunch more over this Syria mess, before this clown gets us into a bona-fide trainwreck.
Your senators too.
'by his peace he will kill many'?
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#7 Sep 7, 2013
Are you praying and fasting for Peace today?
Dave P

Dahlonega, GA

#8 Sep 7, 2013
William wrote:
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Yell at them a whole bunch more over this Syria mess, before this clown gets us into a bona-fide trainwreck.
Your senators too.
Absolutely. For some reason this guy and a bunch of other RINOS are hell-bent on dropping bombs in some place that we have no business fooling with. They all need fired.
William

Cusseta, GA

#9 Sep 7, 2013
I was in the 1990-91 Gulf War. We all knew where those WMD went. Either back to Russia or into Syria. This is why Putin is sticking his fat snout into this mess. There are things that he doesn't want made known.
Dave P

Morehead, KY

#10 Sep 7, 2013
Russia, Iran, Syria- three headed monster of no good.
William

Cusseta, GA

#11 Sep 7, 2013
The US and Britain are in large part responsible for how Iran got so screwed up. It all started back in the 50's when we conspired together to get their democratically-elected PM overthrown.

All over oil profits. BP and Standard Oil.

Since: Jun 11

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#12 Sep 7, 2013
William wrote:
I was in the 1990-91 Gulf War. We all knew where those WMD went. Either back to Russia or into Syria. This is why Putin is sticking his fat snout into this mess. There are things that he doesn't want made known.
I know I often give you a hard time but here and now I want to thank you for my freedom.
William

Cusseta, GA

#13 Sep 7, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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I know I often give you a hard time but here and now I want to thank you for my freedom.
LOL thanks man. All I did was drop bombs on guys that had no chance to start with. It was nothing more than a live fire exercise in the desert, but with actual live people as targets.

Since: Jun 11

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#15 Sep 8, 2013
William wrote:
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LOL thanks man. All I did was drop bombs on guys that had no chance to start with. It was nothing more than a live fire exercise in the desert, but with actual live people as targets.
For the first time in my 65 years the world would be at peace were it not for muslims.
William

Birmingham, AL

#16 Sep 8, 2013
"For the first time in my 65 years the world would be at peace were it not for muslims."

They have been fighting practically non-stop since they came into being. The split between the Shi'ite and Sunni factions has made it worse. Even if Israel had not been established in 1948 they would be fighting someone.

The ones that I was around were Sunni. They were mostly Saudi and Jordanian. But none of us trusted them any further than we could throw them. Once that religion gets into their heads, they are done for. Their final loyalty is to Allah, and whatever else that they are presently loyal to is just for convenience. The Shi'ites were all just flat-out lunatics that hated us and everyone else they came near. They reminded me of the ultra-orthodox Jews in Jerusalem. Same kind of look in their eyes.

And they both detested us.
William

Birmingham, AL

#17 Sep 8, 2013
If anyone wants to learn about how we collectively got to where we are right now regarding Iran, here is the best place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosadde...

When the US and Britain conspired to get this guy overthrown, it set in motion events that are still very much with us today.
William

Birmingham, AL

#18 Sep 8, 2013
And then read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_cou...

All of this happened over oil, so anytime you see something happening in a middle eastern country that the United States is planning to attack, you can have it on solid authority that the underlying reason is oil. And control of the process that gets it out of the ground.

Since: Jun 11

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#19 Sep 8, 2013
William wrote:
And then read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_cou...
All of this happened over oil, so anytime you see something happening in a middle eastern country that the United States is planning to attack, you can have it on solid authority that the underlying reason is oil. And control of the process that gets it out of the ground.
Throw into that oily soup the belief Iran was on its way to being a another satellite of the USSR and having Moscow control the world's known oil supply. Bottom line is the West has to have the free flow of oil and has always done anything to get it. Why our government still to this day refuses to develop our own resources said to be larger than any in the world is beyond my ken.

Annoying Proxy

Morehead, KY

#20 Sep 8, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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For the first time in my 65 years the world would be at peace were it not for muslims.
Your age surprises me, 65 is really up there if you know what I mean. I estimated your age to be somewhere in the range of 12-14 years old.
Annoying Proxy

Morehead, KY

#21 Sep 8, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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Throw into that oily soup the belief Iran was on its way to being a another satellite of the USSR and having Moscow control the world's known oil supply. Bottom line is the West has to have the free flow of oil and has always done anything to get it. Why our government still to this day refuses to develop our own resources said to be larger than any in the world is beyond my ken.
I do have a theory as to why our government does not want our oil developed. Stockpiled in natures tank is my guess. We drilled, sampled, and capped a lot of wells in the seventies and eighties on government land. The oil companies will probably make more profit from the Arabs than they would using our oil so they are against it for that reason. The Green aspect of this argument is convenient for the government so they are used it in that way. Whether we are dependent upon foreign oil in the long run is what I believe the think tanks are considering. These spikes we cry about today are only bumps in the road. If nothing like this is happening I hate to think what is actually going on.

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