Talk About Homosexuality

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#165 Jul 17, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
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God speaking
By the way.....what ever bible you got your quote from is a bastardized version because it is not from the King James Version, as the KJV never uses the word homosexual in it.......therefore the bible you are using has violated Revelations 22:18-19 by adding or subtracting words to fit your needs!!!

Just so ya know......I've had my KJV since 1974.......when did you get your first bible?
Anonymous Proxy

Los Angeles, CA

#166 Jul 17, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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How can you determine that genetics have nothing to do with homosexuality? Certainly your biological chemical make up has everything to do with your personality. Perhaps a gay person has gay thoughts and chooses to ignore them - does that make him less gay?
I will agree that it is any person's choice to engage in any sexual activity but you are equating homosexual activity to homosexual people. Gay people are gay, even when no sexual activity is involved. You are saying that gay people can choose to be heterosexual by avoiding homosexual activity. That's not true. "Gay" describes a person's personality, not their activities.
You decide what is sinful when you decide to trust and respect the words of the Bible or the teachings of a church. You "know" what is sinful because you believe what you have been taught - other Christians interpret that the Bible does not damn homosexuality - you all have different opinions of what you "know" to be true - what you "know" to be God's will is your opinion and yours only really applies to you.
There is no interpretation for any real Christian to do , it is self-explanatory.

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
malakos(nor effeminate)
Thayer Definition:(
1) soft, soft to the touch
2) metaphorically in a bad sense
2a) effeminate
2a1) of a catamite
2a2) of a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man
2a3) of a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness
2a4) of a male prostitute

arsenokoit&#275;s( nor abusers of themselves with mankind)
Thayer Definition:
1) one who lies with a male as with a female, sodomite, homosexual

There is nothing to explain the bible is plain. When a church is taken over by a bunch of queers expect any false teaching under the sun to come from them, as they are no longer the church. They would naturally marry same sex couples, they are reprobates. Wake up while there is time.

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#167 Jul 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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By the way.....what ever bible you got your quote from is a bastardized version because it is not from the King James Version, as the KJV never uses the word homosexual in it.......therefore the bible you are using has violated Revelations 22:18-19 by adding or subtracting words to fit your needs!!!
Just so ya know......I've had my KJV since 1974.......when did you get your first bible?
What if I got mine last year?

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#168 Jul 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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That is correct that who we decide to be intimate with is a choice......that applies to anyone regardless of sexual orientation....BUT who I am and who I am attracted to is NOT a choice and I'm not going to live my life by your religious beliefs or bible!!!
Oh and I've read the bible.....no where in it does God EVER speak about Homosexuality......Paul/Saul does....but NOT God......and the only thing that God actually gave us were the 10 Commandments.......everything else in the bible was written by mere mortal man who wanted to be Gods(just like you do) and control the masses!!!
That being said, you still are allowed to believe as you see fit.....but you are NOT allowed to dictate your beliefs on me!!!
so you believe the OT only? Would you enlighten us who wrote the OT.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

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MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#169 Jul 17, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>What if I got mine last year?
It still wouldn't be a KJV because it doesn't have the word homosexual in it......it might be some other version, seeing as there are 88 different versions of the bible in print!!!
Anonymous Proxy

Los Angeles, CA

#170 Jul 17, 2013
We were founded a Christian country under God and have since strayed from God, all of us have. Were there any queers that had a part in founding this country? No, the truth is they would have been burned at the stake. Obama truthfully said we are no longer a Christian nation. At least on that one point he is right. It was never intended by our founding fathers for same sex to be married, else it would have been in our Bill of Rights. Our founding fathers were very strongly in favor of individual freedoms. Same sex marriage was not left out by accident.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

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#171 Jul 17, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
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so you believe the OT only? Would you enlighten us who wrote the OT.
I don't believe in the bible at all.....and the Old Testament was only meant for the Israelite's.....last I check.....I'm not from that part of the world and the bible has so made contradictions that who knows what is going on with it......lol!!!

Man wrote the Old Testament.....just like man wrote the new testament.

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#172 Jul 17, 2013
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
Sorry, but we are not founded on Christian principles......not now and not in the beginning either.
Anonymous Proxy

Los Angeles, CA

#173 Jul 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Sorry, but we are not founded on Christian principles......not now and not in the beginning either.
Not so reprobate.
http://www.usachristianministries.com/2011/11...

Until 1975 the APA considered homosexuality a mental disorder. The sodomy laws were still on the books as little as 100 years ago. This acceptance of perversion as natural, is relatively speaking, very recent.

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#174 Jul 17, 2013
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
So, that has NOTHING to do with this Country NOT being a Christian nation:
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers...

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#175 Jul 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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I don't believe in the bible at all.....and the Old Testament was only meant for the Israelite's.....last I check.....I'm not from that part of the world and the bible has so made contradictions that who knows what is going on with it......lol!!!
Man wrote the Old Testament.....just like man wrote the new testament.
lol and your trying to tell me about a book you dont believe in. not thats neat.

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#176 Jul 17, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
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lol and your trying to tell me about a book you dont believe in. not thats neat.
Actually what I stated was that you are free to believe as you see fit.....including believing in that book.....however, your beliefs and that book DON'T guide this Country........and just because I don't believe in it....it doesn't mean I can't discuss it or understand it!!!
killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#177 Jul 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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By the way.....what ever bible you got your quote from is a bastardized version because it is not from the King James Version, as the KJV never uses the word homosexual in it.......therefore the bible you are using has violated Revelations 22:18-19 by adding or subtracting words to fit your needs!!!
Just so ya know......I've had my KJV since 1974.......when did you get your first bible?
The KJV is not exactly 100% accurate. It was translated from the Greek language by King James. That is why it is called to this day King James Version. A belief of what the words that were translated mean. I know most folks don't understand this, but Let me say this. Their is an old saying," it's Greek to me" Another words, "what did you say." The greek language was a very unusual language. Compare to all the languages, it was very difference. If you go to the book store and buy a bible that was translated from the Hebrew. It is almost like reading 2 difference books. Remember the title, KING JAMES VERSION. His version of what he think it says. PS, you right, no where in the book it says homosexual. But it does say for man not to lay down with animals or man.
killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#178 Jul 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Actually what I stated was that you are free to believe as you see fit.....including believing in that book.....however, your beliefs and that book DON'T guide this Country........and just because I don't believe in it....it doesn't mean I can't discuss it or understand it!!!
Just a thought. I too , believe in science. The book is a science book, it just that you never read it. You stop believing on what you been taught and not the truth. In the book Isaiah, he said that the lord knows who you are by the hair on you head. Today we called it DNA. He also talk about the vast rivers in the oceans,(remember, the only sea water known in those day was the metiteranean) help control the rain to water the crops, today we call it Ocean currents. He also said the color of the earth from the heavens is blue. We only saw this in the 1950's. With all these sayings, how is this in the book. One last saying, Isaiah also said that one day that the lord's glory will be reveal in the ancient altars of Egypt. The pyramids?????????

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#179 Jul 17, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> The KJV is not exactly 100% accurate. It was translated from the Greek language by King James. That is why it is called to this day King James Version. A belief of what the words that were translated mean. I know most folks don't understand this, but Let me say this. Their is an old saying," it's Greek to me" Another words, "what did you say." The greek language was a very unusual language. Compare to all the languages, it was very difference. If you go to the book store and buy a bible that was translated from the Hebrew. It is almost like reading 2 difference books. Remember the title, KING JAMES VERSION. His version of what he think it says. PS, you right, no where in the book it says homosexual. But it does say for man not to lay down with animals or man.
I never stated the KJV was accurate for starts, just that it is the most widely used bible......and the bible has been translated from Hebrew to Greek, then to Latin and again to English......I'm pretty certain something was lost in translation......lol:
http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bib...

As for the Leviticus laws......they had NOTHING to do with Homosexuality.......more with regard to raping the Canaanite Warriors to break their fighting spirit.

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Since: Aug 08

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#180 Jul 17, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> Just a thought. I too , believe in science. The book is a science book, it just that you never read it. You stop believing on what you been taught and not the truth. In the book Isaiah, he said that the lord knows who you are by the hair on you head. Today we called it DNA. He also talk about the vast rivers in the oceans,(remember, the only sea water known in those day was the metiteranean) help control the rain to water the crops, today we call it Ocean currents. He also said the color of the earth from the heavens is blue. We only saw this in the 1950's. With all these sayings, how is this in the book. One last saying, Isaiah also said that one day that the lord's glory will be reveal in the ancient altars of Egypt. The pyramids?????????
Sorry, but the bible is NOT a science book.......it is a story book at best.......and please follow it til your heart is content, but DON'T expect others to follow it simply because you make a claim about it!!!

Since: Jul 12

Welch, WV

#181 Jul 17, 2013
Bobby wrote:
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That is crazy talk, people make choices all the time, both good and bad.
You are married - why did you marry your wife? Did you choose to be attracted to her or did it just happen? Do you think you would be just as satisfied with some other person?

When a person loves another person and they want to be together, live together, share their homes and possessions, raise children together - they SHOULD get married - just like you did - just like I did. You want gay people to abandon the person they love and choose someone else to suit YOUR beliefs.

Since: Jul 12

Welch, WV

#182 Jul 17, 2013
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
<quoted text>There is no interpretation for any real Christian to do , it is self-explanatory.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
malakos(nor effeminate)
Thayer Definition:(
1) soft, soft to the touch
2) metaphorically in a bad sense
2a) effeminate
2a1) of a catamite
2a2) of a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man
2a3) of a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness
2a4) of a male prostitute
arsenokoit&#275;s( nor abusers of themselves with mankind)
Thayer Definition:
1) one who lies with a male as with a female, sodomite, homosexual

There is nothing to explain the bible is plain. When a church is taken over by a bunch of queers expect any false teaching under the sun to come from them, as they are no longer the church. They would naturally marry same sex couples, they are reprobates. Wake up while there is time.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eff...

Definition of EFFEMINATE

1: having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
2: marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement <effeminate art> <an effeminate civilization>

A "bunch of queers" is derogatory speech towards gay people - you are communicating your opinion that you are superior to these people.

You choose to believe those Bible words mean that homosexuals will not be allowed into Heaven and I'm reading them over and over - that's not what they say.

I'll go so far as to note that our homosexual guest is female and "effeminate" is an adjective refers to men who have woman-like attributes. It does not actually refer to a person's sexuality at all.

Since: Jul 12

Welch, WV

#183 Jul 17, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
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so you believe the OT only? Would you enlighten us who wrote the OT.
I would have to agree with NN that the OT and the NT were written by people - human people - like you and me. I would also agree that much of the original message has been translated to suit the translator and could be interpreted in a variety of ways.
killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#184 Jul 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Sorry, but the bible is NOT a science book.......it is a story book at best.......and please follow it til your heart is content, but DON'T expect others to follow it simply because you make a claim about it!!!
Big time wrong, It is a science book and a history book which people use the book to look for ancient cities. Your problem is your afraid to prove me wrong, by reading the book. Your afraid to find out the truth we are not alone. Say the Our Father. When you get to the part "thy kingdom come, thy will be done, ON EARTH HAS IT IS IN HEAVEN. This is the answer to the question, are we alone in the universe? Our DNA prove that we are difference. This is what has evolutionist piss. Evolution is proven with some living creature, but mankind DNA is alone. Not even from Neantheral man.

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