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Anonymous Proxy

Manassas, VA

#760 Sep 6, 2013
PartyPooper II wrote:
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i do not hate homosexuals because hate is not in me however i can not see myself agreeing with same sex marriage. sorry...
Those are my feeling also. I don't think they deserve special treatment and tell them so. It is just a couple of old gray haired lesbians trying to keep this thread going for attentions sake.

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#761 Sep 6, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Your point? If procreation was mandated with regards to marriage....you might have one, but seeing that procreation is NOT required of ANY married couple.....your point is moot!!!
Just saying:-)
wrong.

procreation IS required for the continuation of life.

what would the earth be if two people could not reproduce together? O_o

the earth would have been stuck with just them two.

just saying...

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Since: Oct 11

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#762 Sep 6, 2013
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
<quoted text>Those are my feeling also. I don't think they deserve special treatment and tell them so. It is just a couple of old gray haired lesbians trying to keep this thread going for attentions sake.
:)

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#763 Sep 6, 2013
PartyPooper II wrote:
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wrong.
procreation IS required for the continuation of life.
People will continue to procreate......that doesn't mean Gays and Lesbians CAN'T procreate......they can, just NOT with each other......at least not yet!!!

You are somehow confusing not able with a someone of the same gender as NOT able to procreate at all.....and that's not true.

I have a grown adult child, my wife has 3 grown adult children.......we also have 4 grandchildren......and yet at our ages we are NOT interested nor able to have any more children......we have ensured that the next generation is around and the human species continues!!!

How a couple create a child is irrelevant......even heterosexual couple need medical intervention sometimes and besides......with 4 million babies being born every year......we aren't endanger of extinction!!!

“Bringing the Paranoia !!”

Since: Oct 11

MY hometown is YOUR Hometown

#764 Sep 7, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Your point? If procreation was mandated with regards to marriage....you might have one, but seeing that procreation is NOT required of ANY married couple.....your point is moot!!!
Just saying:-)
if homosexuality was natural then homosexuals would be able to reproduce offspring. the fact that two individuals of the same sex has never since the beginning and still has never been able to produce offspring shows that it goes against nature. now with that being said i do not hate homosexuals at all i just do not agree with it. you have the right to live your life how you want to just like i do. i think its ok to agree to disagree. i will respect your view as long as you respect mine however in my opinion homosexuality goes against nature.

just saying :)

“Bringing the Paranoia !!”

Since: Oct 11

MY hometown is YOUR Hometown

#765 Sep 7, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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People will continue to procreate......that doesn't mean Gays and Lesbians CAN'T procreate......they can, just NOT with each other......at least not yet!!!
You are somehow confusing not able with a someone of the same gender as NOT able to procreate at all.....and that's not true.
I have a grown adult child, my wife has 3 grown adult children.......we also have 4 grandchildren......and yet at our ages we are NOT interested nor able to have any more children......we have ensured that the next generation is around and the human species continues!!!
How a couple create a child is irrelevant......even heterosexual couple need medical intervention sometimes and besides......with 4 million babies being born every year......we aren't endanger of extinction!!!
the fact that they can not procreate with each other proves that it goes against nature and is not meant to be imo.

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MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#766 Sep 9, 2013
PartyPooper II wrote:
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if homosexuality was natural then homosexuals would be able to reproduce offspring.
Again, there are heterosexual couples who can NOT reproduce between themselves, are they unnatural? If NOT, then why would Gays and Lesbians be considered unnatural? You base your thought process on just a procreative ability......and that in and if itself can not be the sole criteria for being considered natural in my opinion.

You are entitled to your opinion......and I have defended your right to your free expression of your opinion, but understand this.......Gays and Lesbians are American citizens and are entitled to the same rights, benefits and privileges as other American citizens are entitled to......one of those is the right to decide who one wants to marry!!!

Since: Jul 12

Welch, WV

#767 Sep 9, 2013
PartyPooper II wrote:
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the fact that they can not procreate with each other proves that it goes against nature and is not meant to be imo.
Your argument is lame - you are suggesting that all sex should result in procreation. You understand that heterosexual sex usually does not produce a child, right? You understand that heterosexual people go to great lengths to be SURE that their sex does not result in procreation? There is nothing wrong with sex that does not produce new people - it's down right common.

SO - lack of procreation is good argument FOR homosexuality. Here in modern times, those of us who procreate try very hard to train our children to be in absolute control of if and when they are creating a child! Raising a child is a much bigger commitment than having sex.

Since: Jul 12

Welch, WV

#768 Sep 9, 2013
PartyPooper II wrote:
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if homosexuality was natural then homosexuals would be able to reproduce offspring. the fact that two individuals of the same sex has never since the beginning and still has never been able to produce offspring shows that it goes against nature. now with that being said i do not hate homosexuals at all i just do not agree with it. you have the right to live your life how you want to just like i do. i think its ok to agree to disagree. i will respect your view as long as you respect mine however in my opinion homosexuality goes against nature.
just saying :)
Gay people CAN produce offspring - despite their sexual orientation, their bodies can biologically create another person as well as heterosexual people can. They can easily have heterosexual sex or become artificially inseminated to produce a child - that does not mean they have stopped being homosexual. Many gay people accept and prefer a life without offspring - but, like some heterosexual people know, there are a variety of ways to find a little child to care for if that is important to them.

When two people of the same sex do not procreate, it is not against nature, it is an observation of nature. According to your idea, when two people of the opposite sex get together and do not result in pregnancy, it is against nature, for it is natural for them to procreate and they did not.

I too want to live in harmony with you, accepting that our ideas are different. But since you make the effort to visit the Topix thread to discuss it - I want you to back up your view with reason and logic.

You say homosexuality is not natural. Why else would it exist if it does not occur to people naturally? I think that you mean: homosexuality is unnatural to YOU. That's understandable! You are not homosexual - of course it seems strange.

Let's experiment with: What If?

What if.. you are a straight guy with a wife and some kids, living happily, having no interactions with homosexuality whatsoever. You can say you are "against" homosexuality because your opinion does not affect you or anyone you are interacting with or care about. Perhaps your opinion actually benefits you by making you feel more masculine, making you more popular among people who share your view, and by being a role model for heterosexual people. You may think there is nothing wrong with your opinion because it's working out for you and you never witness the harm it causes. Did you know that your opinion, shared among large numbers of people and backed by Christianity actually harms people?

Can you accept that homosexuality occurs naturally to SOME people, and those people should be made to feel comfortable acting on their personal sexual orientation?

What if.. your happy heterosexual marriage produces a homosexual offspring. That's where homosexual people usually come from, heterosexual parents. Suddenly, you will get to witness first-hand how your opinion affects gay people - a real gay person that you love regardless of any sexual orientation. Suppose you express to your own gay child what you are expressing in this forum: you are unnatural, you need to be corrected, you need to be controlled to prevent you from being who you turned out to be. You are flawed. Sorry, kid, I have to save you from Hell. I have to fix you.

Since: Jul 12

Welch, WV

#769 Sep 9, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Again, there are heterosexual couples who can NOT reproduce between themselves, are they unnatural? If NOT, then why would Gays and Lesbians be considered unnatural? You base your thought process on just a procreative ability......and that in and if itself can not be the sole criteria for being considered natural in my opinion.
You are entitled to your opinion......and I have defended your right to your free expression of your opinion, but understand this.......Gays and Lesbians are American citizens and are entitled to the same rights, benefits and privileges as other American citizens are entitled to......one of those is the right to decide who one wants to marry!!!
I was going to give you a green check - but meanies filled up you judgements with negativity before I got to. "Green check" for your post! I WILL express my agreement!

And so, I happen to know some gay and lesbian people who do an exceptional job of helping raise nieces and nephews, cousins, friend's kids, the community's kids - some are especially acting on their urge to nurture children, but they accept that having no children of their own is a condition of who they are. Some people would have us FEAR these homosexual people, as if they must have some ill intentions towards children because they are gay. It's a misconception that gay people think of nothing but sex since some people associate the adjective "homosexual" to sex acts. I know when sex is and is not appropriate and it has nothing to do with my sexual orientation, only how maturely I can cope with my sexuality.

Homosexual people are just as likely to be good parents as heterosexual people. It is unfair to discriminate against same-sex couples when it comes to adoption and foster care. California is pretty passionate about forcing establishments to act fairly, but I am sure there are gay people throughout the US who are not being ALLOWED to care for children because they choose not to produce one biologically. The real tragedies are the children who are not being cared for properly while same-sex couples are being denied the right to care for them. I should do some research about state laws concerning adoption and foster care..

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

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MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#770 Sep 9, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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I was going to give you a green check - but meanies filled up you judgements with negativity before I got to. "Green check" for your post! I WILL express my agreement!
And so, I happen to know some gay and lesbian people who do an exceptional job of helping raise nieces and nephews, cousins, friend's kids, the community's kids - some are especially acting on their urge to nurture children, but they accept that having no children of their own is a condition of who they are. Some people would have us FEAR these homosexual people, as if they must have some ill intentions towards children because they are gay. It's a misconception that gay people think of nothing but sex since some people associate the adjective "homosexual" to sex acts. I know when sex is and is not appropriate and it has nothing to do with my sexual orientation, only how maturely I can cope with my sexuality.
Homosexual people are just as likely to be good parents as heterosexual people. It is unfair to discriminate against same-sex couples when it comes to adoption and foster care. California is pretty passionate about forcing establishments to act fairly, but I am sure there are gay people throughout the US who are not being ALLOWED to care for children because they choose not to produce one biologically. The real tragedies are the children who are not being cared for properly while same-sex couples are being denied the right to care for them. I should do some research about state laws concerning adoption and foster care..
I truly never concern myself with the icons......if I have negative ones, it means I've gotten under the skin of the person placing them and they have NOTHING to say.....otherwise they would have......lol!!!

And as you can see.....we both have similar comments on if a heterosexual can't reproduce does that make them unnatural as well......and it usually isn't applied the same.......just another sad and pathetic attempt at a double standard!!!

“Bringing the Paranoia !!”

Since: Oct 11

MY hometown is YOUR Hometown

#771 Sep 10, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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Your argument is lame - you are suggesting that all sex should result in procreation. You understand that heterosexual sex usually does not produce a child, right? You understand that heterosexual people go to great lengths to be SURE that their sex does not result in procreation? There is nothing wrong with sex that does not produce new people - it's down right common.
SO - lack of procreation is good argument FOR homosexuality. Here in modern times, those of us who procreate try very hard to train our children to be in absolute control of if and when they are creating a child! Raising a child is a much bigger commitment than having sex.
not lame. simply the truth.

if homosexuality was natural then two homosexuals would have been able to reproduce. the population we have today would have never came into existence if it wasnt for heterosexuals...God's natural plan. i believe in the Bible and it says that homosexuality goes against nature and science proves it because again two homosexuals can not and have never been able to reproduce another human being. that is the purpose of creation when it comes to humans: to produce and multiply.

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