rAmen........seems that some are okay with certain issues until an actual Lesbian shows up.......this happens in many threads and it appears to always come to a Homosexuality vs Christianity......when in reality that has nothing to do with this issue!!!What? I turn my back and you completely quit discussing homosexuality entirely? I obviously need to re-explain the point and purpose of this thread.
You would RATHER talk about a "Christian Nation" because having a pleasant, grown-up discussion about homosexuality is above and beyond how you EVER intend to act. This is the reason I started this thread - you NEED to come to terms that whether or not there will be homosexuality is out of your hands - homosexuality already IS and you need to calm down and start treating homosexual people with respect.
Until recently, everyone was very respectful to the "gays", explaining that they are saddened that gays will be going to Hell, but gays can redeem themselves by joining the church and being celibate or trying out heterosexuality. That was, of course, before any publicly gay people arrived to defend themselves - and now you see where this thread has taken us.
Several of the original posters have dropped out of the discussion - I will admit, the discussion was dragging on a bit - but I thought it would add another angle to invite an ACTUAL gay person to present that side of the argument. I even brought a rare gay person - she IS legally married - most gay people are not.
Of course, she was quickly followed by some unintended visitors - Anonymous Proxy and killedjoe are quite interesting but also aggressive. Suddenly, I recognize another aspect of this issue that I couldn't explain before - I want Christians to stop being so mean to gay people.
The Christians I was speaking with previously were quite nice, actually - it was hard for me to accuse them of mistreating gay people. But NOW I see it.
There is only one public gay poster in this conversation - even though I am heterosexual, I feel like I am "like her" in that all judgement towards homosexuality also applies to me. Is all that you have said about NorCal also true about me?
Anonymous Proxy has described me as a reprobate (is that a villain?), a pansy, a fairy, a butch, trashy, sissy, bugger, sodomite, promiscuous, a blind puppy, effeminate, ignorant, stupid, and a liar. Other gay rights supporters and I are a bunch of queers with a mental disorder who accept perversion and our lies pervert the scriptures. To have a conversation with me would cause someone to stoop too low because the garbage that I post are nothing but lies and I cannot defend my actions without lying.
I know all of that was directed at NorCal - then you go on to apply it to all gay people - and by association, also me. Why do you act so horribly towards gay people? NorCal is a strong, bold, confident gay person - many of the gay people who hear your words will not tell you about yourself - they will just accept the hurt as a fact of life. This sort of judgmental disgust towards a group of people is dreadful to witness.
Why do Christians act this way? Some people assume that Christians are especially nice - I know better.
Thanks for the post:-)