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#146 Jul 27, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> Go research who started K of C. Give you a hint. A priest in Conn, USA. Why. To stop the catholics from joining other Christians organization. Columbus was no hero to the CC. It did everything in it's power to stop him from Sailing and even threatened the King and Queen of Spain. Back then Royality still answered to the Pope. History did not started to blame Columbus for the for what happen to the natives until in the mid 20th century. By you attacking, shows that there are things you say without knowing. Like I said, history is history, facts are facts. You don't want to go research and learn, find. That what you can believe. Again, I dare you to look it up
Are you saying the Masons are a Christian organization?
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#147 Jul 27, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> Go research who started K of C. Give you a hint. A priest in Conn, USA. Why. To stop the catholics from joining other Christians organization. Columbus was no hero to the CC. It did everything in it's power to stop him from Sailing and even threatened the King and Queen of Spain. Back then Royality still answered to the Pope. History did not started to blame Columbus for the for what happen to the natives until in the mid 20th century. By you attacking, shows that there are things you say without knowing. Like I said, history is history, facts are facts. You don't want to go research and learn, find. That what you can believe. Again, I dare you to look it up
Will you stop making stupid statements about history.

I minored in history when I was in college and that is one of the reasons I converted to Jesus' Church. To read history is to cease being Protestan.

I am a member of the Knights of Columbus. I know who started this group and why.

It is a myth that in Columbus' day it was thought that the world was flat. Actually, long before 1492, experienced cartographers and sailors knew that it was anything but. The lie that people of the 15th century believed that the earth was flat was popularized by 19th century atheists in order to use science in their war against religion.

One of Columbus’s first stops in Spain was the monastery of La Rábida in the southern port town of Palos de la Frontera, not far from the Portuguese border . At the monastery Columbus found not only a boarding place for his son Diego but also support from the friars, several of whom became great believers in his vision. One of them, Friar Antonio Marchena, spent many hours discussing geography with Columbus. He also helped shape Columbus’s plans by directing him to the writings of the ancients and of church authorities who were known to support the idea of a westward crossing of the ocean. Through Marchena, Columbus was introduced to powerful noblemen as well, including Friar Juan Pérez, one of the guardians of the monastery—and the confessor of Queen Isabella. Pérez introduced Columbus to the court of the Spanish monarchs.

The Pope at that time was Pope Alexander VI, a Spaniard. 1493, in the wake of Christopher Columbus’ epochal discoveries, and at the request of Ferdinand and Isabella, Alexander issued a bull granting Spain the exclusive right to explore the seas and claim all New World lands lying west of a north-south line 100 leagues (about 320 miles) west of the Cape Verde Islands. Portugal was granted similar rights of exploration east of the demarcation line. This papal disposition, which was never subsequently recognized by any other European power, was jointly amended by Spain and Portugal in the Treaty of Tordesillas in 1494.
killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#148 Jul 27, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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Will you stop making stupid statements about history.
I minored in history when I was in college and that is one of the reasons I converted to Jesus' Church. To read history is to cease being Protestan.
I am a member of the Knights of Columbus. I know who started this group and why.
It is a myth that in Columbus' day it was thought that the world was flat. Actually, long before 1492, experienced cartographers and sailors knew that it was anything but. The lie that people of the 15th century believed that the earth was flat was popularized by 19th century atheists in order to use science in their war against religion.
One of Columbus’s first stops in Spain was the monastery of La Rábida in the southern port town of Palos de la Frontera, not far from the Portuguese border . At the monastery Columbus found not only a boarding place for his son Diego but also support from the friars, several of whom became great believers in his vision. One of them, Friar Antonio Marchena, spent many hours discussing geography with Columbus. He also helped shape Columbus’s plans by directing him to the writings of the ancients and of church authorities who were known to support the idea of a westward crossing of the ocean. Through Marchena, Columbus was introduced to powerful noblemen as well, including Friar Juan Pérez, one of the guardians of the monastery—and the confessor of Queen Isabella. Pérez introduced Columbus to the court of the Spanish monarchs.
The Pope at that time was Pope Alexander VI, a Spaniard. 1493, in the wake of Christopher Columbus’ epochal discoveries, and at the request of Ferdinand and Isabella, Alexander issued a bull granting Spain the exclusive right to explore the seas and claim all New World lands lying west of a north-south line 100 leagues (about 320 miles) west of the Cape Verde Islands. Portugal was granted similar rights of exploration east of the demarcation line. This papal disposition, which was never subsequently recognized by any other European power, was jointly amended by Spain and Portugal in the Treaty of Tordesillas in 1494.
I am talking before he sailed. After he came home, the CC had no he was right
killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#149 Jul 27, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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Are you saying the Masons are a Christian organization?
And who were the Freemasons. Who were they before they became freemasons. Who were the Pior of Sion. Newton was a member, Di vinci was a member, and yet they were "catholics". Listen to this old joke. " Do you know the way to Yale, yes I do STUDY ME BOY< STUDY". problem, some folks don't like history, so they called it a myth, legends, stories to hide and keep they head in the sand.

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#150 Jul 27, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> And who were the Freemasons. Who were they before they became freemasons. Who were the Pior of Sion. Newton was a member, Di vinci was a member, and yet they were "catholics". Listen to this old joke. " Do you know the way to Yale, yes I do STUDY ME BOY< STUDY". problem, some folks don't like history, so they called it a myth, legends, stories to hide and keep they head in the sand.
So you are affirming the Masons are a Christian organization.
Yolanda Xavier Yodel

Bellefonte, PA

#151 Jul 27, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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Can't stand it when someone tells you what they really think of you can you? No doubt you are accustomed to everyone thinking you are so smart, kind and considerate with superior knowledge about all things spiritual. Well your statement about Gutenberg instantly showed how silly you really are. Unlike your friends, I simply don't put up with it. Kumbaya.
Superior much?


killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#152 Jul 27, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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So you are affirming the Masons are a Christian organization.
And don't forget the Knights templar also. Look at the dollar. Look for the star of david. Research the all seeing eye. 13 is a very lucky number in the bible. Read the blessing that Jacob gave to Joseph 2 sons. remember, Joseph never re'cd the blessing, because his brothers "killed" him, but Jacob gave the blessing to joseph 2 sons. Now you have 13.????????? Remember the prophecy, The House of Israel and the House of Judea will exist in the End of Days.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#153 Jul 27, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> I am talking before he sailed. After he came home, the CC had no he was right
Before he sailed too. He was Catholic to the core. The only problem he had was finding money.

Go take some history classes. You need it bad.

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#154 Jul 27, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
<quoted text>I see the Welchs grape juice concessionaire is awake.
Yes, no "wine" in the biblical communion.

Oh, wait. I found it.

2 Opinions 12:4

;)

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#155 Jul 27, 2013
Yolanda Xavier Yodel wrote:
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Superior much?
Nothing to do with superiority. Words mean things so you are standing by your Gutenberg statement?

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#156 Jul 27, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Yes, no "wine" in the biblical communion.
Oh, wait. I found it.
2 Opinions 12:4
;)
So is Welchs White Grape Juice OK?

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#157 Jul 27, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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Nothing to do with superiority. Words mean things so you are standing by your Gutenberg statement?
FYI here is a list of the books in Gutenberg's Old Testament:
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Kings, 1 and 2 Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah, Tobit, Judith, Ester, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Song of Songs, Wisdom, Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Baruch, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.

Got all those in your Bible????? I do in mine.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#158 Jul 27, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> And who were the Freemasons. Who were they before they became freemasons. Who were the Pior of Sion. Newton was a member, Di vinci was a member, and yet they were "catholics". Listen to this old joke. " Do you know the way to Yale, yes I do STUDY ME BOY< STUDY". problem, some folks don't like history, so they called it a myth, legends, stories to hide and keep they head in the sand.
And some people do not know history.

Yolanda Xavier Yodel

Bellefonte, PA

#159 Jul 27, 2013
Of course I stand by my statement MarkEden. I don't care if Gutenberg's was a Roman Catholic or a Protestant. The point is that he invented the printing press, which enabled the Scriptures to be mass produced so that even Protestants like me can own multiple copies.

And yes, of course you act superior, and probably feel superior to those of us who don't bow the knee to Rome. Words mean things? Your words are drenched with your superior attitude. Your attitude is worse than any of the cofC posters I've seen on this site over the years, and that's saying something.
Yolanda Xavier Yodel

Bellefonte, PA

#160 Jul 27, 2013
Double post by accident, not for emphasis.

But, I kind of like the emphasis.

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#161 Jul 27, 2013
Yolanda Xavier Yodel wrote:
Of course I stand by my statement MarkEden. I don't care if Gutenberg's was a Roman Catholic or a Protestant. The point is that he invented the printing press, which enabled the Scriptures to be mass produced so that even Protestants like me can own multiple copies.
And yes, of course you act superior, and probably feel superior to those of us who don't bow the knee to Rome. Words mean things? Your words are drenched with your superior attitude. Your attitude is worse than any of the cofC posters I've seen on this site over the years, and that's saying something.
If my words are drenched in anything it is facts not touchy feely throw away phrases like I think, I feel, I believe.

You said, "I believe that Jesus knew that a fellow named Guttenberg was going to create a way that his Word could be spread around the world, translated into a multitude of languages, and that there would come a time when a large portion of the world's population was literate, and able to read His word."

Now on what basis could you possibly have to say, "I believe Jesus knew...?"

When I say "I believe" it is the opening phrase of the Nicene Creed not some made up feel good gobbledygook like you invariably come up with.

Kumbaya
killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#162 Jul 28, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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Before he sailed too. He was Catholic to the core. The only problem he had was finding money.
Go take some history classes. You need it bad.
History says he was a "hidden" jew

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#163 Jul 28, 2013
Did you Catholics worship all your idols today? Do you realize that concept was derived from ancestor worship of the pagans?

Wake up!

www.roysecitycoc.org

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#164 Jul 28, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
Did you Catholics worship all your idols today? Do you realize that concept was derived from ancestor worship of the pagans?
Wake up!
www.roysecitycoc.org
Oh yes and my favorite pagan ancestor to worship is the Venus of Willendorf...reminds me so much of you.
killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#165 Jul 28, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
Did you Catholics worship all your idols today? Do you realize that concept was derived from ancestor worship of the pagans?
Wake up!
www.roysecitycoc.org
I am a Catholic. For some reason, catholic say they don't pray to statues, but yet you go into any CC and you would people standing or kneeling and praying to a Statue. But this is not idol worship. Rosary beads, idol praying. They just dot,t get it.

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