Who made Johnny Robertson a preacher?

Who made Johnny Robertson a preacher?

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Whitman

Montvale, VA

#1 Jan 20, 2013
Johnny Robertson said tonight that God made him a gospel preacher.
How does Johnny Robertson know that God made him a gospel preacher when Johnny along with James, Mark and Micah don't believe in the Holy Spirit telling people anything anymore?
How do we know that God made Robertson a preacher?
Witless Whitman

Fredericksburg, VA

#2 Jan 20, 2013
Whitman, dont you have anything better to do than harass that poor, innocent Johnny Robertson? You're a coward. Stand up to him! Grow a sack!
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#3 Jan 21, 2013
Wow, you really 'bagged' that one Witless.
Whitman

Montvale, VA

#4 Jan 21, 2013
How do we know that God made Johnny Robertson a preacher?

Johnny said last night that God made him a gospel preacher. He has to prove that God did.

The Church Of Christ brags about having to provide an answer. Johnny should answer this question. How do we know that God made him a preacher/evangelist?

Its a simple question.

Church Of Christ doesn't believe Holy Spirit does anything. If God's Holy Spirit did not tell Johnny, James, Mark, Micah that they are preachers, who/what did?
Whitman

Montvale, VA

#5 Jan 22, 2013
No one in the Church Of Christ can obey the Bible and give an answer to this question?

I thought Church Of Christ was always ready to give an answer.

Since: May 10

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#6 Jan 22, 2013
Whitman wrote:
No one in the Church Of Christ can obey the Bible and give an answer to this question?
I thought Church Of Christ was always ready to give an answer.
lol I preach just because God said we are to if possible. But I can not answer for JR.
Whitman

Montvale, VA

#7 Jan 23, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
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lol I preach just because God said we are to if possible. But I can not answer for JR.
Then every Christian is an evangelist even the ones in Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal worship places!

I don't see many other Chuch Of Christ evangelists just those like Johnny and around here they are only the ones he controls or are already his family. No elders in the chuches in Martinsville, Danville, Eden to answer to. Just evangelists. I don't see that in the New Testament. Where in New Testament does it command evangelists to run churches instead of elders????

So who made Johnny Robertson an evangelist? What makes him think he is better/more important evangelist than anyone?

If God made Johnny evangelist then Johnny has to prove it.

Since: May 10

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#8 Jan 23, 2013
Whitman wrote:
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Then every Christian is an evangelist even the ones in Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal worship places!
I don't see many other Chuch Of Christ evangelists just those like Johnny and around here they are only the ones he controls or are already his family. No elders in the chuches in Martinsville, Danville, Eden to answer to. Just evangelists. I don't see that in the New Testament. Where in New Testament does it command evangelists to run churches instead of elders????
So who made Johnny Robertson an evangelist? What makes him think he is better/more important evangelist than anyone?
If God made Johnny evangelist then Johnny has to prove it.
Yep you might Call JR and ask him since it seems to be your concern.
Whitman

Montvale, VA

#9 Jan 23, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
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Yep you might Call JR and ask him since it seems to be your concern.
Johnny or his cult members aren't going to have my name and number and come to my house to bother me and my family. That is what they do with people they know disagree with them.

I am not a public figure but Johnny Robertson is. Public nuisance is more like it!

Johnny Robertson should then stop being a coward and answer us here where everyone can read it and it will be on the record.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#10 Jan 24, 2013
Johnny isn't the type to answer openly - but only when he controls and can cut peoples responses off at his whim and will.

Regarding CoC and who makes who a preacher: My dad is still a CoC preacher at 92, and he heard other men preach and figured he could do better, so he started preaching - started a few congregations as well along the pathway. No one 'made him a preacher.' He chose to be. Perhaps somewhat to answer his conscience sake, perhaps somewhat for a vocation to provide for his family that purports to be an 'honest' vocation. Those of us who have worked for a living know that the secular world is all too often dishonest and hard at times to be an honest Christian in. So I don't really fault my dad for his choice - only that he listened too much to narrow minded CoC doctrinal interpretation of Scripture instead of being upright and honest with the Word of God as he should have been.

Was it ignorance? Or was it instead seeking to preach what people want to hear? I'm not His judge, but the teachings of Jesus Christ are.

No, there are a number of reasons people become Church of Christ preachers as there are Church of Christ preachers. Who made them preachers? The real issue is that of who continues to support bad preachers who bring shame on the Way of the Truth of Jesus Christ. And Johnny isn't alone with that burden - all are also all RCC priests, Evangelicals, Methodists, and all the Protestants who have not repented to do the will of God as told by the Son.

Who made you Johnny's judge?:-)
Who made me your judge?:-)

We need to just repent to do the will of God - it's been that way sinse Adam disbelieved what God told him. It's been the same call sinse - repent to do what God said. Jesus also gave us the best reasons to:-) The Good News of Hope that He preached.
johnny

Fredericksburg, VA

#11 Jan 28, 2013
in the church about which you read in the NT, becoming a preacher is a simple matter of desire and being accepted. 2Cor 8:16 speaks of Titus having such and also him being accepted. It appears also from act 16:1-2 that this is how Timothy found his way into the ministry.
As far as controlling what a preacher does or does not do, the NT is pretty clear that a man decides what is going to do, and the churches have the right to accept or reject based upon whether they believe the man is teaching truth. see the man's choice 1Cor 16:12; and the congregations choice Tit 3:10-11
johnny

Fredericksburg, VA

#12 Jan 28, 2013
All this business of headquarters and control is simply a matter of men trying to chain the truth.
Paul told Timothy to teach the truth to men who would teach others. If a man can demonstrate that he is able and not just a person who wants to be a teacher (1Tim. 1:7), a congregation will accept him or not, based upon their need. Some congregations had able teachers to the point they didn't even need paul to come to their area 1Tes 1:8.
It seems that God's plan is for the church to grow to the degree that pastors can be supplied from within who will guide the flock, and evangelist will spread the word to the lost. See 1Tim 3:1-6, 2Tim 4:5
TheWiseMan

San Antonio, TX

#13 Jan 28, 2013
johnny wrote:
in the church about which you read in the NT, becoming a preacher is a simple matter of desire and being accepted. 2Cor 8:16 speaks of Titus having such and also him being accepted. It appears also from act 16:1-2 that this is how Timothy found his way into the ministry.
As far as controlling what a preacher does or does not do, the NT is pretty clear that a man decides what is going to do, and the churches have the right to accept or reject based upon whether they believe the man is teaching truth. see the man's choice 1Cor 16:12; and the congregations choice Tit 3:10-11
Are you in the new testament?
TheWiseMan

San Antonio, TX

#14 Jan 28, 2013
If you are born of water and Spirit you do not need a covenant with God.

True or false?
TheWiseMan

San Antonio, TX

#15 Jan 28, 2013
None of you know what it means to be born of water.

None of you have this revelation.

Since: May 10

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#16 Jan 29, 2013
Whitman wrote:
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Johnny or his cult members aren't going to have my name and number and come to my house to bother me and my family. That is what they do with people they know disagree with them.
I am not a public figure but Johnny Robertson is. Public nuisance is more like it!
Johnny Robertson should then stop being a coward and answer us here where everyone can read it and it will be on the record.
Whitman JR gave you an answer if you should desire to respond or you can just rant on.
Walkinginlove

Danville, VA

#17 Jan 30, 2013
johnny wrote:
in the church about which you read in the NT, becoming a preacher is a simple matter of desire and being accepted.[/QUOTE}

You are not in that Church, the Church lived and died during that time. The Church aka people did not spend money on man made temples, did not re-baptize those already baptized in the authority of Jesus Christ, did not baptize in the man made trinity formula, did not refuse the Lord's table by prejudging a man they allowed the man to judge himself as the requirements of God call for, greeted each other by a Holy Kiss, did not force those married with children to divorce and return to previous partners through false use of Ezra 10, did not deny the power of the Holy Spirit, did not did not did not, but you do you do you do.

Thus you are not part of the church we read about in the Bible, you are part of a denominational church who's only method of willing converts is to deny brotherhood with other believers and then twist scripture to play upon their fears and weakness to convince them they are not saved. Then you force them to violate Hebrews 6 and attempt to crucify Christ to themselves a second time through baptism. So without the other denominational church your denomination would have nothing to feed on.

[QUOTE who="johnny"]
2Cor 8:16 speaks of Titus having such and also him being accepted. It appears also from act 16:1-2 that this is how Timothy found his way into the ministry.
johnny wrote:
As far as controlling what a preacher does or does not do, the NT is pretty clear that a man decides what is going to do, and the churches have the right to accept or reject based upon whether they believe the man is teaching truth. see the man's choice 1Cor 16:12; and the congregations choice Tit 3:10-11
So since by your actions against other elders of your denomination are not well spoken of by all should you not be considered disqualified? Shall you give an answer why the congregation that sponsored your overseas work makes no mention of your name or your work on their site? Certainly when your brethren will not even speak of you you should be considered disqualified to preach! More importantly God said that you should never bring your offering to him when a brother has something against you. And some of your brothers do and you have done nothing to seek healing of the relationship have you? So do you also consider those brethren elders who tried to hold you accountable for your harmful actions still to be your brothers or are they lost and if you consider them to be lost are you not a rabid dog who will go after his own after he has destroyed all other denominations?

So is the Forest Park Church of Christ, Atlanta your brothers?
http://fpcc.org/...

"Since 1972 Forest Park has overseen the Martin family as they evangelized in the Pacific Islands. In 1989 the English family joined that work. In 1994 the Vice family joined the team. In 2004 the Treat family took the Vice’s place on the mission team. In 2005 the Ferguson Family began working with the Pacific Island Bible College. Forest Park has also been involved with Jimmy and Randy Judd’s efforts in Malawi, Africa for many years. Through these and other good mission works Forest Park has supported there have been an estimated 90,000 souls baptized into Jesus Christ."

The version that has your name in it
http://www.worldconvention.org/resources/prof...
"Churches of Christ have been present in the Marshall Islands since the early 1990s thanks to the efforts of Robert Martin and other workers from the Forest Park Church of Christ, Atlanta, Georgia who centered their early evangelistic efforts in Majuro. There, and also in Ebeye and Kwajalein, Martin conducted Bible classes beginning in 1991. The first full-time missionary of the Churches of Christ in the Marshall Islands was Johnny Robertson, who followed Martin in 1992.

How about not spoken of? Or were you not part of Forest Park?

Since: May 10

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#18 Jan 30, 2013
Walkinginlove wrote:
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So since by your actions against other elders of your denomination are not well spoken of by all should you not be considered disqualified? Shall you give an answer why the congregation that sponsored your overseas work makes no mention of your name or your work on their site? Certainly when your brethren will not even speak of you you should be considered disqualified to preach! More importantly God said that you should never bring your offering to him when a brother has something against you. And some of your brothers do and you have done nothing to seek healing of the relationship have you? So do you also consider those brethren elders who tried to hold you accountable for your harmful actions still to be your brothers or are they lost and if you consider them to be lost are you not a rabid dog who will go after his own after he has destroyed all other denominations?
So is the Forest Park Church of Christ, Atlanta your brothers?
http://fpcc.org/...
"Since 1972 Forest Park has overseen the Martin family as they evangelized in the Pacific Islands. In 1989 the English family joined that work. In 1994 the Vice family joined the team. In 2004 the Treat family took the Vice’s place on the mission team. In 2005 the Ferguson Family began working with the Pacific Island Bible College. Forest Park has also been involved with Jimmy and Randy Judd’s efforts in Malawi, Africa for many years. Through these and other good mission works Forest Park has supported there have been an estimated 90,000 souls baptized into Jesus Christ."
The version that has your name in it
http://www.worldconvention.org/resources/prof...
"Churches of Christ have been present in the Marshall Islands since the early 1990s thanks to the efforts of Robert Martin and other workers from the Forest Park Church of Christ, Atlanta, Georgia who centered their early evangelistic efforts in Majuro. There, and also in Ebeye and Kwajalein, Martin conducted Bible classes beginning in 1991. The first full-time missionary of the Churches of Christ in the Marshall Islands was Johnny Robertson, who followed Martin in 1992.
How about not spoken of? Or were you not part of Forest Park?
Forest Park does a great job in the mission field.
Walkinginlove

Danville, VA

#19 Jan 30, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
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Forest Park does a great job in the mission field.
So you don't see it as a large sign of alarm that they don't even list John on their site?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#20 Jan 30, 2013
Walkinginlove wrote:
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So you don't see it as a large sign of alarm that they don't even list John on their site?
I have no idea about JR relationship with that group. I know of one who has worked in the mission field with that group and he has done good work there. If interested you could just call them on the phone I bet they would answer your questions.

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