William

Eastaboga, AL

#313 Nov 12, 2013
Dave P wrote:
<quoted text>
I read a PDF from Jeffrey's book, counting years and doing mathematical formulas from Ezekiel 3 into the future and finding- gasp!- 1948.
BUFFOONERY.
If you run it a few more times, it will magically tell you the winner of last year's Super Bowl.
William

Eastaboga, AL

#314 Nov 12, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
You have completely lost it. Do you believe men went to the moon or have you read a book that it was all staged and believe that?
We faked the moon landing.

Six times!
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#315 Nov 12, 2013
Dave P wrote:
<quoted text>
I read a PDF from Jeffrey's book, counting years and doing mathematical formulas from Ezekiel 3 into the future and finding- gasp!- 1948.
BUFFOONERY.
You're in the same company as my dad:-) He said it's just coincidence.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#316 Nov 12, 2013
Dave, did you do the math of the prophecy fulfillment? Were the Scriptures noted applicable to Israel and Judah? Were the Scriptures noted applicable regarding what God said from their beginning of what He would do if they didn't repent to do what He said?(Israel largely remained in Babylon, as seen in the numbers of who returned at that time after the Babylonian captivity)

So if it's according to directly applicable Scripture of what God said and the prophecies He gave to the prophets, pray tell how you as a Christian can consider it 'BAFFOONERY'? Is it because the Church never told you to believe it, so it's just fine to say it isn't true? I fear you put far too much influence in your Church instead of the words of God or His Son.

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#317 Nov 12, 2013
"The Saviour Himself is the door of the sheepfold:'I am the door of the sheep.' Into this fold of Jesus Christ, no man may enter unless he be led by the Sovereign Pontiff; and only if they be united to him can men be saved, for the Roman Pontiff is the Vicar of Christ and His personal representative on earth." (Pope John XXIII in his homily to the Bishops and faithful assisting at his coronation on November 4, 1958)

Now read 1 & 2 Peter.

www.roysecitycoc.org

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#318 Nov 12, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
"The Saviour Himself is the door of the sheepfold:'I am the door of the sheep.' Into this fold of Jesus Christ, no man may enter unless he be led by the Sovereign Pontiff; and only if they be united to him can men be saved, for the Roman Pontiff is the Vicar of Christ and His personal representative on earth." (Pope John XXIII in his homily to the Bishops and faithful assisting at his coronation on November 4, 1958)
Now read 1 & 2 Peter.
www.roysecitycoc.org
Wow! Looks like you are shit outta luck!

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#319 Nov 12, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
<quoted text>Wow! Looks like you are shit outta luck!
Your true nature is showing.

"But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth."
Colossians 3:8

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#320 Nov 12, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
"The Saviour Himself is the door of the sheepfold:'I am the door of the sheep.' Into this fold of Jesus Christ, no man may enter unless he be led by the Sovereign Pontiff; and only if they be united to him can men be saved, for the Roman Pontiff is the Vicar of Christ and His personal representative on earth." (Pope John XXIII in his homily to the Bishops and faithful assisting at his coronation on November 4, 1958)
Now read 1 & 2 Peter.
www.roysecitycoc.org
The Vatican keeps all documents. You are pretty ignorant not to remember that.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_xxiii/...

HOMILIA IOANNIS PP. XXIII
IN DIE CORONATIONI HABITA

Die IV Novembris mensis, a. 1958



Venerabiles Fratres S. R. E. Cardinales,
Archiepiscopi, Episcopi,

qui vel coram adstatis vel animo praesentes estis sacris hisce ritibus, quibus Nos, licet immerentes, gravissimum Summi Pontificatus onus sollemniter auspicamur; itemque vos omnes, quotquot in catholico terrarum orbe ex variis civium ordinibus carissimos habemus filios, qui, etsi tot mortalis huius vitae curis angustiisque distenti, aeternorum tamen bonorum, ad quae potissimum spectandum est, non immemores estis: paterno amantissimoque vos salutamus animo.

Prope maxima Apostolorum Principis monumenta convenimus, cuius supremum munus Nobis, utpote eius Successori, concreditum est; ac Petri vocem hac memoranda hora Nobis audire videmur, quasi saeculorum cursum transvolantem; utriusque etiam Ioannis vocem libenter veluti excipimus, qui Divino Redemptori propinquiores fuerunt ac sunt, et quorum suave et honorificum nomen Nobis indere placuit.

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#321 Nov 12, 2013
Hisce autem diebus, arcanis eventibus trepidationeque plenis, dum aures praebemus Nostras vocibus innumeris, quae ab hominum multitudinibus ad Nos perveniunt, si ex una parte communis laetitiae sensus significationesque, quibus Nostra ad Summum Pontificatum evectio consalutata est, haud parum

Nobis solacii afferunt, ex altera vero ancipitem et anxium Nostrum efficit animum multiplex ea ingentium munerum varietas, quae in Nostros incumbum umeros; munera dicimus, quae hinc inde Nobis diversis modis significantur et quae alii aliter intra certos definitosque terminos proponunt pro suo cuiusque ingenio, pro gerendarum rerum experientia et pro peculiari ratione, qua ipsi vel singulorum vel ipsius societatis vitam intellegum. Sunt enim, qui Pontificem potissimum praeoptant vel in publicis civitatum rebus procurandis versatum, vel rei diplomaticae peritum, vel variarum omnium disciplinarum scientia praeditum, vel ordinandae communis omnium vitae prudentem, vel talem denique Pontificem, cuius animus omnia progredientis aetatis incrementa, nullo debito discrimine habito, amplectatur.

Attamen, Venerabiles Fratres et dilecti filii, ii omnes minime illud prosequuntur iter, quo incedere oporteat, cum Summi Pontificis speciem sibi fingant, quae recto consilio propositoque haud sit plene consentanea.

Etenim novus Pontifex per suae vicissitudines vitae illi Iacobi Patriarchae filio comparari potest, qui fratres suos gravissimis affectos aerumnis coram excipiens, eis se amantem et complorantem ostendit, dicens:«Ego sum ... Ioseph, frater vester »(1). Novus Pontifex, dicimus, imprimis Evangelicam illam praeclarissimam imaginem in se refert, qua Bonus Pastor a Ioanne Evangelista iis verbis describitur quae ex divino Salvatoris ore profluxerunt (2). Ipse ovilis ostium est:« Ego sum ostium ovium »(3). Hoc in Iesu Christi ovile, nonnisi Summo Pontifice ductore, quisquam ingredi potest; et homines turn solummodo, cum ei coniunguntur, tuto possunt salvi fieri, quandoquidem Romanus Pontifex Vicarius est Christi, eiusque in terris personam gerit. Quam dulce, quam suave est illam Boni Pastoris imaginem mente repetere, quae in Evangelii narratione tam exquisitis allicientibusque verbis describitur!

V

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#322 Nov 12, 2013
enerabiles Fratres ac dilecti filii, ea monita, quae ac de re omnium tempoum Romani Pontifices peculiarique modo proximus Decessor Noster Pius XII immortalis memoriae, ediderunt, Nostra itdem facimus, idque potissimum significanterque asseveramus, Nobis peculiarissimo modo corde esse universi gregis Pastorem gerere. Cetera omnia humani animi ornamenta et laudes, doctrina nempe, gerendarum rerum prudentia, rei diplomaticae dexteritas, ordinandarum rerum peritia, hoc idem pastorale munus complere ac ditare quidem possunt, in eius locum autem suffici non possunt.

Praecipuum enim locum obtinet Boni Pastoris studium et sollicitudo, qui ad difficillima quaeque suspicienda sit paratus, qui prudentia eniteat, rectitudine, constantia, nec summum discrimen reformidet.« Boni pastor animam suam dat pro ovibus suis »(4). Quanta refulget pulchritudine Ecclesia Christi,« ovile ovium »(5). Pastor « ante oves vadit »(6), quem omnes sequuntur. Has ut defendat, ipse non veretur irruentem lupum pugnando prohibere. Sed mens iam ad ampliora consideranda vocatur :« Et alias oves habeo quae non sunt ex hoc ovili, et illas oportet me adducere, et vocem meam audient, et fiet unum ovile et unus pastor »(7). His profecto verbis totius missionalis causae amplitudinem et nobilitatem expressam videte. Haec est sane prima, licet non una, Romani Pontificis sollicitudo : cum ea enim multae coniunguntur aliae curae, quae non minoris sunt ponderis. At magis quam, quid agatur, interest nosse, quo animi afflatu et sententia agatur. Quilibet nimirum Summus Pontificatus accipit lineamenta ac veluti vultum quendam a Pontifice Maximo qui eum gerit et ei singularem speciem impertit. Hoc autem pro comperto esto, omnium lineamenta Romanorum Pontificum, qui per saeculorum decursum in apostolicae potestatis fastigium successerunt, repercuti vel potius repercuti debere in vultu Christi, Divini scilicet Magistri, qui terrestria itinera decucurrit hanc potissimum ob causam, ut caelestis doctrinae semen et praeclarissimi exempli funderet lucem.


Hoc enim festo die, IV Novembris, quo memoria coronationis novi Pontificis Maximi deinceps recoletur, universalis Ecclesia in sacra liturgia quotannis S. Caroli Borromaei celebrat sollemne. Quem Antistitem Mediolanensem, inter summos gregum pastores annumerandum, iamdiu praecipua attingimus amoris necessitudine. Triginta quattuor enim abhinc annos, in templo eius honori Romae consecrato, ubi cor eius, praeclarissima reliquia, excolitur, augusto Ecclesiae ritu Nos inter Archiepiscopos sumus cooptati.

Nostis Ecclesiam Dei per temporum vicissitudines interdum nonnihil vigoris amisisse et iterum novas collegisse vires. Quo igitur tempore ordini ecclesiastico labenti consulendum erat, S. Carolus ex providentis Dei consilio ad celsissimum ascitus est munus illum restituendi. Cum enim pro viribus annisus esset, ut Tridentini Concilii decreta quam maxime vigescerent eaque ipse Mediolani aliisve in Italiae dioecesibus ad usum deducenda exemplo curaret, merito appellatus est praeclarissimo nomine Magistri Episcoporum; illum Summi Pontifices in consilium adhibuerunt; ille exemplar sanctitatis episcopalis mirandum in modum se praebuit.

In sacra caerimonia, quae ob coronationem Summi Pontificia agitur, licet litaniis nomina inserere Sanctorum Caelitum, quos novus Antistes Sacrorum Maximus peculiari prosequatur pietate. Quam ob rem cum hodie haec enuntiata est precatio:« Sancte Carole, tu illum adiuva », procul dubio incensis animis simul vestra protulistis vota, quibus exoratus caelestia munera cumulate Nobis impetrabit S. Carolus, quem Patronum habemus, cuius Nos praesidio in praesenti uti et usuros esse in posterum confidimus. Amen.

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#323 Nov 12, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
"The Saviour Himself is the door of the sheepfold:'I am the door of the sheep.' Into this fold of Jesus Christ, no man may enter unless he be led by the Sovereign Pontiff; and only if they be united to him can men be saved, for the Roman Pontiff is the Vicar of Christ and His personal representative on earth." (Pope John XXIII in his homily to the Bishops and faithful assisting at his coronation on November 4, 1958)
Now read 1 & 2 Peter.
www.roysecitycoc.org
You keep forgetting you can go to the original document in the Church back to the beginning.. Haven't found any documents referring to that false community of yours. Ignorance is no excuse to lie.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_xxiii/...

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#324 Nov 12, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
You keep forgetting you can go to the original document in the Church back to the beginning.. Haven't found any documents referring to that false community of yours. Ignorance is no excuse to lie.
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_xxiii/...
All they have is Daniel Sommer 1850-1940.

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#325 Nov 12, 2013
Good ol' cussing Catholics.

Typical.
Dave P

Olive Hill, KY

#326 Nov 12, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
Dave, did you do the math of the prophecy fulfillment? Were the Scriptures noted applicable to Israel and Judah? Were the Scriptures noted applicable regarding what God said from their beginning of what He would do if they didn't repent to do what He said?(Israel largely remained in Babylon, as seen in the numbers of who returned at that time after the Babylonian captivity)
So if it's according to directly applicable Scripture of what God said and the prophecies He gave to the prophets, pray tell how you as a Christian can consider it 'BAFFOONERY'? Is it because the Church never told you to believe it, so it's just fine to say it isn't true? I fear you put far too much influence in your Church instead of the words of God or His Son.
Maybe everyone should let Ezekiel explain itself instead of adding a math formula that he and God never intended to be put in play there. Buffoonery. More later.

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#327 Nov 13, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
Good ol' cussing Catholics.
Typical.
What is typical is your ignoring and denying the Baptist derived history and practices of the little denomination known as the Church of Christ yet continually and ignorantly bashing the Catholic Church. And what is really offensive is that you have the effrontery to stand up before an assembly and tell them they are the Church of the first century, the Church found in the Bible.

Richie T

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#328 Nov 13, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow! You are smarter than Jesus.
How is it you "cannot discern the signs of the times?"
William

Birmingham, AL

#330 Nov 13, 2013
Dave P wrote:
Maybe everyone should let Ezekiel explain itself instead of adding a math formula that he and God never intended to be put in play there.
Fuzzy math.

The Jewish lunar calendar and the Gregorian calendar do not line up, so it is a complete waste of time to try and make any sort of "timeline" math work.

This "Bible Code" nonsense is just that. Nonsense.

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#331 Nov 13, 2013
William wrote:
<quoted text>
Fuzzy math.
The Jewish lunar calendar and the Gregorian calendar do not line up, so it is a complete waste of time to try and make any sort of "timeline" math work.
This "Bible Code" nonsense is just that. Nonsense.
Well of course it's the fault of Pope Gregory XIII.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#332 Nov 13, 2013
God gave the calendar to Israel, actually several, to date the 'appointments' with Him. There is also the fact that the prophetic calendar is also identified by God, through the prophets - day equals year - year equals 360 days. It isn't fuzzy at all, but knowing we have a different calendar system is what puts the fuzzies into it - but even with that - it still comes out to the date prophesied, which explains why nothing of note happened when the time for Israel was fulfilled - they had not repented. Period.

I just put it on the table for your consideration. It's up to God to open your eyes further. Not me.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#333 Nov 13, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
enerabiles Fratres ac dilecti filii, ea monita, quae ac de re omnium tempoum Romani Pontifices peculiarique modo proximus Decessor Noster Pius XII immortalis memoriae, ediderunt, Nostra itdem facimus, idque potissimum significanterque asseveramus, Nobis peculiarissimo modo corde esse universi gregis Pastorem gerere. Cetera omnia humani animi ornamenta et laudes, doctrina nempe, gerendarum rerum prudentia, rei diplomaticae dexteritas, ordinandarum rerum peritia, hoc idem pastorale munus complere ac ditare quidem possunt, in eius locum autem suffici non possunt.
Praecipuum enim locum obtinet Boni Pastoris studium et sollicitudo, qui ad difficillima quaeque suspicienda sit paratus, qui prudentia eniteat, rectitudine, constantia, nec summum discrimen reformidet.« Boni pastor animam suam dat pro ovibus suis »(4). Quanta refulget pulchritudine Ecclesia Christi,« ovile ovium »(5). Pastor « ante oves vadit »(6), quem omnes sequuntur. Has ut defendat, ipse non veretur irruentem lupum pugnando prohibere. Sed mens iam ad ampliora consideranda vocatur :« Et alias oves habeo quae non sunt ex hoc ovili, et illas oportet me adducere, et vocem meam audient, et fiet unum ovile et unus pastor »(7). His profecto verbis totius missionalis causae amplitudinem et nobilitatem expressam videte. Haec est sane prima, licet non una, Romani Pontificis sollicitudo : cum ea enim multae coniunguntur aliae curae, quae non minoris sunt ponderis. At magis quam, quid agatur, interest nosse, quo animi afflatu et sententia agatur. Quilibet nimirum Summus Pontificatus accipit lineamenta ac veluti vultum quendam a Pontifice Maximo qui eum gerit et ei singularem speciem impertit. Hoc autem pro comperto esto, omnium lineamenta Romanorum Pontificum, qui per saeculorum decursum in apostolicae potestatis fastigium successerunt, repercuti vel potius repercuti debere in vultu Christi, Divini scilicet Magistri, qui terrestria itinera decucurrit hanc potissimum ob causam, ut caelestis doctrinae semen et praeclarissimi exempli funderet lucem.
Hoc enim festo die, IV Novembris, quo memoria coronationis novi Pontificis Maximi deinceps recoletur, universalis Ecclesia in sacra liturgia quotannis S. Caroli Borromaei celebrat sollemne. Quem Antistitem Mediolanensem, inter summos gregum pastores annumerandum, iamdiu praecipua attingimus amoris necessitudine. Triginta quattuor enim abhinc annos, in templo eius honori Romae consecrato, ubi cor eius, praeclarissima reliquia, excolitur, augusto Ecclesiae ritu Nos inter Archiepiscopos sumus cooptati.
Nostis Ecclesiam Dei per temporum vicissitudines interdum nonnihil vigoris amisisse et iterum novas collegisse vires. Quo igitur tempore ordini ecclesiastico labenti consulendum erat, S. Carolus ex providentis Dei consilio ad celsissimum ascitus est munus illum restituendi. Cum enim pro viribus annisus esset, ut Tridentini Concilii decreta quam maxime vigescerent eaque ipse Mediolani aliisve in Italiae dioecesibus ad usum deducenda exemplo curaret, merito appellatus est praeclarissimo nomine Magistri Episcoporum; illum Summi Pontifices in consilium adhibuerunt; ille exemplar sanctitatis episcopalis mirandum in modum se praebuit.
In sacra caerimonia, quae ob coronationem Summi Pontificia agitur, licet litaniis nomina inserere Sanctorum Caelitum, quos novus Antistes Sacrorum Maximus peculiari prosequatur pietate. Quam ob rem cum hodie haec enuntiata est precatio:« Sancte Carole, tu illum adiuva », procul dubio incensis animis simul vestra protulistis vota, quibus exoratus caelestia munera cumulate Nobis impetrabit S. Carolus, quem Patronum habemus, cuius Nos praesidio in praesenti uti et usuros esse in posterum confidimus. Amen.
So Catholics are half baked Pentecostals? Only they don't provide any translation so people can know what they are being told? Even Paul would brand this not of God...not to mention Peter...

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