george bush ten years later

george bush ten years later

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BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#1 Mar 26, 2013
■The invasion of Iraq was a war crime under U.S. and international law, violating the UN Charter, the Geneva Conventions, as well as U.S. law. And the U.S. carried out war crimes and crimes against humanity during its occupation of Iraq including the murder, torture, and illegal detention of thousands and thousands of Iraqi civilians.
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#2 Mar 26, 2013
■The U.S. used cluster bombs, white phosphorous, and depleted uranium against the Iraqi people—all weapons of mass destruction.
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#3 Mar 26, 2013
Iraq was forever changed. It is now home to 4.5 million orphans, two million widows, over four million refugees, while over half the population lives in slums.
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#4 Mar 26, 2013
beginning of 2003 Hans Blix reported to the U.N. that Iraq most probably neither possessed WMDs or the means to produce them and asked for more time to come up with a conclusive answer.
uts

United States

#5 Mar 26, 2013
Sounds like vallejo. Lol.
anon

Vallejo, CA

#6 Mar 26, 2013
@Big Daddy
Just 11 years ago Hussien was in power and his tenure was characterized by day-to-day atrocities that attracted less notice. Wartime rhetoric regarding Hussein's "rape rooms," death by torture, decisions to slaughter the children of political enemies, and the casual machine-gunning of peaceful protesters accurately reflected the day-to-day policies of Saddam Hussein's regime.

Along with his government policies of authorized rape for political crimes, 1,000,000,000 murdered or missing Iraquis during his 24 years as leader + the 1,000,000,000 deaths during the unprovoked war with Iran things were pretty good?

Half the population lived in slums before the war. What is your point? He deserved to stay?

Oh, that's right .... not our problem?
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#7 Mar 27, 2013
Congress has allocated funds for all U.S. troops to wear 16-pound, ceramic-plated Interceptor body armor (search), but as many as 51,000 American soldiers and civilian administrators in Iraq have not yet been equipped with the gear, and have been asking friends and families at home to purchase and send them off-the-shelf models for protection.
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#8 Mar 27, 2013
There have been more than 9,000 U.S. casualties in Iraq so far – more than 8,100 wounded and 1,100 killed. Nearly half of those casualties are the result of roadside bombs, known as improvised explosive devices or IEDs in military jargon. Yet the U.S. military still lacks thousands of fully armored vehicles that could save American lives.
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#9 Mar 27, 2013
Staff Sgt. Sean Davis from the Oregon National Guard was critically wounded last June when his unarmored Humvee hit an IED outside of Baghdad. He suffered shrapnel wounds, burns, and was unable to walk for six weeks.
Davis said his Humvee was armored with plywood, sandbags, and armor salvaged from old Iraqi tanks.
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#10 Mar 27, 2013
Most of the vehicles in Iraq arrived there without armor plating, because the Pentagon war planners didn't anticipate a long, bloody insurgency.
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#11 Mar 27, 2013
anon???????

9000 deaths?
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#12 Mar 27, 2013
"This war violates every legal principle governing the resort to force. It clearly has little to do with disarmament, democracy, human rights, or even Saddam Hussein, and everything to do with oil and power."
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#13 Mar 27, 2013
B) Protocol I, Art. 51:“The civilian population…shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.” Art. 57:(parties shall)“do everything feasible to verify that the objectives to be attacked are neither civilians nor civilian objects…an attack shall be cancelled or suspended if it becomes apparent that the objective is not a military one…”

“Here's a interesting thought..”

Since: May 12

Vallejo

#14 Mar 27, 2013
BD, unless you were there STFU.
uts

Vallejo, CA

#15 Mar 27, 2013
Casper the internet ghost wrote:
BD, unless you were there STFU.
Are you a combat Vet?
anon

Vallejo, CA

#16 Mar 27, 2013
BigDaddy wrote:
anon???????
9000 deaths?
The U.S. avg from all causes is about 6500 deaths per day (2.4 mil per year)

But I feel you dude. Using the Iraq logic there was no reason for the U.S. to join Britain in WWII. Hitler wasn't a threat to us. We should of just nuked Japan and been done with our retribution?

Not our problem that Saddam was politically executing 125 civilians a day for each of his 8,000+ days in power.

And don't get me started on Viet Nam! We were just trying to keep a country from falling to unprovoked communist aggression. What the hell were we thinking? Trying to help out a country that was outmanned and out gunned? Stupid on our part.

I am with you......the next time some 3rd world country (or major country like the U.K.) needs help ..... f**k em!
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#17 Mar 27, 2013
The war in Iraq was launched March 20, 2003, in Baghdad and unexpectedly stretched on for 106 months, just short of nine years. During that time, 1,111,610 Americans served there for a total of 2,337,197 deployments, with some serving two or more times.
Four thousand, four hundred and eighty-eight of them came home in flag-draped coffins, including 110 women, according to Defense Department data. Thirty-two thousand, two hundred and twenty-one were brought home with serious combat wounds ranging from concussions to multiple limb amputations. Two hundred and thirty-five took their own lives while deployed.

In Iraq, 115,376 Iraq civilians were killed between 2003 and 2011 as sectarian fighting intensified, according to the Brookings Institution's Iraq Index, while the number of internally displaced Iraqi civilians rose from 400,000 in 2003 to 2.7 million by 2010.
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#18 Mar 27, 2013
Casper the internet ghost wrote:
BD, unless you were there STFU.
The Iraq war will ultimately cost US taxpayers at least $2.2 trillion. Because the Iraq war appropriations were funded by borrowing, cumulative interest through 2053 could amount to more than $3.9 trillion.
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#19 Mar 27, 2013
More than 70 percent of those who died of direct war violence in Iraq have been civilians – an estimated 134,000. This number does not account for indirect deaths due to increased vulnerability to disease or injury as a result of war-degraded conditions. That number is estimated to be several times higher
BigDaddy

Oxnard, CA

#20 Mar 27, 2013
Regarding the elusive WMD, Bush administration national security adviser Stephen Hadley told NPR over the weekend: "Republicans thought [Hussein] had them, Democrats thought he had them, the Clinton administration thought he had them, the Bush administration thought he had them.”

"We were all wrong,” he says.

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