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Bald Fat man in a Hula

Vallejo, CA

#49 Apr 21, 2013
LOL!
Ozz, Sunga, Bartee, Hannigan, and Wilson all made good on their promises which preempted all other goals and promises of other politicians....they promised and gave Vallejo employees the best compensation and the cost was four years of bankruptcy and revenue built on home building now section 8 rentals.

(t)urd enragement!
Summer Jenkins

San Jose, CA

#50 Apr 21, 2013
Not so grateful wrote:
no problem with that. just lower pay and fewer benefits and we can all accept that and move forward.
the city has to live within its means and get the biggest bang for its few bucks. how can you disagree with that?
more police is not the answer. we saw what they did when they had more and that was just to drain us dry of all resources for other sadly needed efforts to combat the issues that plague v-town. poverty, dependence on federal funds, fatherless homes, teenage pregnancy, blind faith in churches, vacant houses, sec 8, drugs, guns.
I agree with your point about unified community action, including the police. Absolutely. But you're completely wrong in saying we do not need more police, and you display your scholastic ignorance of law enforcement when you say that. If you make an effort to educate yourself more on these subjects your critiques will be the wiser and more useful for it.

Fact is, the very type of community effort you describe works well with what is known as community policing. The problem with community policing is that it requires larger numbers of officers than patrol-oriented policing does--to implement a more concerted, proactive approach to law enforcement, not merely reactive but actually working with citizens at street level to prevent crime. So we do need to hire more police.

Perhaps having younger, less cynical officers might help; they may be more approachable. But again, we will need more officers; for instance, how do you think we're going to keep (re)opening substations with the staff we have? In any case, cheaper officers will mean more of that type. They will also possibly be less experienced and competent; we will have to deal.

(It's always puzzled me how some people in this town seem so unwilling to understand or admit that Vallejo officers were paid more because it's harder and more dangerous to police Vallejo than, say, Castro Valley or Lafayette. That said, the more and the quicker we fix Vallejo in every possible way, the easier and safer policing it will be--and living here.)

Lastly, more police presence on our streets works psychologically to deter crime, reassure valuable citizens and keep them from leaving, and most of all, to improve Vallejo's terrible public image. Surely you understand that. We need to get the ball rolling. Once it's off, the momentum will build.

I know you dislike and distrust cops, but you need to overcome that to more effectively work at improving Vallejo.
about sam

Vallejo, CA

#51 Apr 27, 2013
he told me once that he has "smoked more pot" than i ever could, and he threatened to hit me with a baseball bat in the head... somehow, the two statements lead me to believe that "pot" was not the only substance he dabbled in. i hope he finds his way back to the bong and quits threatening people... it's hard to vote for a guy that wants to solve his differences with fisticuffs...
Wake up fool

Vallejo, CA

#52 Apr 27, 2013
Too bad he didn't break your head with the bat, moron. Don't worry about not voting for him he's not running.
Anonymous

Los Angeles, CA

#53 Apr 28, 2013
Posts 46 & 50 are both correct and wrong in various assertions. The math of how many officers we have and what they have to do over a 24-7 shift staffing requirement shows the need for more numbers. The mere number of officers does not deter many, if any, at all. Haven interviewed many who did get caught, they all are of the belief that they were going to get away from it. It is about numbers when you look at how many can we afford given our tax base, or the lack thereof. Unless you want to push every tax dollar into salary, no matter which department, you need x dollars for things like building and street maintenance. Roads last abt 40 yrs. The first 75% they lose about 40% of their maintenace performance ability. The last they lose it all. Too many of our roads have not been maintained for way too long. Then there is economic development activities that require x dollars. If this city is to survive, there has to be a balance. That balance is never advocated by Mr. Hula Shirt. Too many make it a personality assault argument no matter which side of the issue the person is for or against. Let's hope calmer thoughts prevail and are convincing. Until labor contracts are announced none of us really know what is taking place. Argue all you want about what you want to see. But keep it on point. PERS is still uping how much has to be paid every year. They just announced a higher demand last week. That is more money for PERS and less for Vallejo, no matter what you put it into.
looking

Vallejo, CA

#54 Apr 28, 2013
the city manager will most likely draft a resolution to ban mmd's first, then staff/city attorney can work on how to shut them down.
if that does not pass, staff time will have not been wasted on drafting all scenarios from banning to regulating, and how many to allow.
vallejo attracts weed why

Vallejo, CA

#55 Apr 29, 2013
here is how one bay area city worded their resolution to ban medical marijuana without expressly saying so.
"No license shall be issued ... authorizing the conduct or continuance of any business which violates state or federal law."
simple and effective.
city manager keen, let's get this to council asap to remove this dope scourge identity from our town.
Old Vallejo Doper

Vallejo, CA

#56 Apr 29, 2013
I get my dope out of town. I do not want anybody knowing my business by seeing me buy in this town. Nobody will be deprived of dope if we shut all these down. Can't travel? Designate a caregiver, stop the drama about patients will not have their medicine. All I have ever seen going in and out of these places are young stoners. It's really easy to get a doctor's note to use and grow, so there is no good reason why patients can't grow their own. Geezus, you can have six plants, how much do you need?
I support a total ban in this town like every other town in Solano County. It has done nothing but enhance the criminal element and tarnish our image.
green acres

Vallejo, CA

#57 Apr 29, 2013
Old Vallejo Doper wrote:
I get my dope out of town. I do not want anybody knowing my business by seeing me buy in this town. Nobody will be deprived of dope if we shut all these down. Can't travel? Designate a caregiver, stop the drama about patients will not have their medicine. All I have ever seen going in and out of these places are young stoners. It's really easy to get a doctor's note to use and grow, so there is no good reason why patients can't grow their own. Geezus, you can have six plants, how much do you need?
I support a total ban in this town like every other town in Solano County. It has done nothing but enhance the criminal element and tarnish our image.
i grow every year and end up with more weed than i can use through the winter and spring, so i give plenty away to friends at xmas time. there have been times when i had so much i ended up tossing it when i harvested again. i think the police should leave people alone that grow at home. i could care less about the shops. i know there is tax money but is it worth it, i don't know.
Grean Leaf

Vacaville, CA

#58 Apr 29, 2013
Light it up!!!!!
Im Talking Now

Vallejo, CA

#59 Apr 29, 2013
I'm certain staff will bring a resolution first to ban businesses not in compliance with federal law. Malgapo will vote YES, Brown is on the spot with re-election coming up. Let her tell us why these are good for Vallejo. She has already weighed in on tent camps for the homeless, most of whom never lived here in the first place.

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